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Storing files on the Puppy CD
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Sat 08 Oct 2005, 23:50    Post subject: Re: Storing files on the Puppy CD  

WiZard wrote:
Here's what I want to do:

**have a standard Puppy bootable CD plus add a directory that contains additional files. The additional files are not part of Puppy are not loaded or stored in ram or in PUP001. I simply want to store them on the same CD and access them if I want them.

What I've been able to do:

**I created a muli-session CD with Puppy plus the added directory, but when it boots it is detected as a multi-session CD and forces the user to go through all the choices for a multi-session CD (not what I wanted).

What I need help with:

**How do I disable all the multi-session menus/choices and get the CD to simply boot like a plain Puppy CD (non-multi-session).

Thanks


I'm just looking at the original post.
It seems that that what you want was already there.
Anything that you store into /root/archive gets saved to CD, never comes
back.

For example of booting direct to multisession, no menu, see the
test ms dvd iso at http://puppy.wise-guy.us/
...should work ok on a CD also.
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WiZard

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PostPosted: Sun 09 Oct 2005, 13:30    Post subject: Stroing extra files on Puppy CD  

Barry, thanks for your reply. Have question.

Quote:
I'm just looking at the original post.
It seems that that what you want was already there.
Anything that you store into /root/archive gets saved to CD, never comes
back.


Added files must go in directory /root/archive ?

"never comes back" means what?

Thanks for help
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Pizzasgood


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PostPosted: Mon 10 Oct 2005, 00:10    Post subject:  

He means if you burn a normal Puppy Multisession, then put something in /root/archive, when it burns back to the cd, it will burn that stuff too, but when it loads back off next time, it will leave the stuff on the cd somewhere and not load it.
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Perkins

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2005, 16:29    Post subject:  

Now all we need is a version that will leave everything on the CD and only load files onto ramdisk when you change them... But still have them accessible from the same places on the file system as if they had been loaded... If you had that plus an option to purge everything back to the CD without rebooting you'd be able to easily run many large applications from the CD...

Methinks this would be a major pain to implement however...
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Flash
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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2005, 16:49    Post subject:  

How can you save files to a multisession CD or DVD so that they can be read by both Puppy and Windows? Since it's not yet a good idea to write to an NTFS partition from Puppy, that would be a way to share stuff like pictures and documents that you might create with, and save on, a Puppy multisession disk.
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GuestToo
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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2005, 17:42    Post subject:  

i think files on the Puppy ms cd should be accessible from Windows ... it writes the files using the -J mkiosfs option, which puts Joliet information on the cd that Windows can read
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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2005, 21:16    Post subject:  

When I "Explore" my 11 Oct multisession Puppy DVD in Windows, it seems only to be able to see the files in the first session. Also, since it doesn't recongize the extensions it can't open those files.
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Ted Dog


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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2005, 21:42    Post subject: Windows DVD+Rw vs. DVD-R  

On the DVD-R version windows can see the folders, DVD+RW it can't, crazy Windows I would like to help them but William G. doesn't answer my e-mails Mad Oh and that whole close source thing slows me down. Smile I wonder when Billy will play ball, the dogs play well!
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Pizzasgood


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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2005, 22:18    Post subject:  

When he is beaten at his own game by a free, 60 megabyte os written by an "eccentric" Aussie roaming the outback with a laptop, he may consider changing his ways....

Flash, have you tried any programs oriented towards recovering lost data? Windows might not be able to read the other sessions, but they probably could.
Yeah, I know that wouldn't be ideal for the random Joe using Puppy, but it's better than nothing.

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BarryK
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PostPosted: Thu 13 Oct 2005, 08:17    Post subject: Re: Windows DVD+Rw vs. DVD-R  

Ted Dog wrote:
On the DVD-R version windows can see the folders, DVD+RW it can't, crazy Windows


I didn't have a very good first experience with a dvd+rw -- I burnt multisession
Puppy onto it and it created a single 4G session, filling up the entire dvd.

DVD-R works well, and is better than DVD+R perhaps, as the former
supports 2000 tracks, the latter much less.
Then there's a 4G barrier for directories.

So, the recommendation is single-layer DVD-R.
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Flash
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PostPosted: Thu 13 Oct 2005, 11:27    Post subject:  

I've burned 11 Oct multisession Puppy to both a DVD-RW and DVD+RW with no apparent problem, though it's early to say for sure. I burned them both with Record Now in Windows, because it's what I'm used to and it always seems to work, and I'm not yet familiar with burning DVDs in Linux. I just use the Record Now default settings. I don't know what most of them are.
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Perkins

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PostPosted: Thu 13 Oct 2005, 16:23    Post subject:  

the multisession disk I've got seems to be readable from both puppy and Windows. It does seem to have issues with a couple of drives though... They seem to pick random tracks to read at startup, so I'm never quite sure what I'm going to get. I think it may be the drives though. As long as you start the disk in a format that Windows can read it should be fine.
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Thu 13 Oct 2005, 17:50    Post subject:  

Perkins wrote:
the multisession disk I've got seems to be readable from both puppy and Windows. It does seem to have issues with a couple of drives though... They seem to pick random tracks to read at startup, so I'm never quite sure what I'm going to get. I think it may be the drives though. As long as you start the disk in a format that Windows can read it should be fine.

Are you using a DVD-R?

Flash,
I recommend that you do it from the commandline in Puppy:
# growisofs -speed=4 -Z /dev/hdc=name-of-iso

...but, if it works okay using Record Now, especially if boots and shuts
down without errors after you have burnt multiple sessions, then I guess
that's okay, we can give Record Now the thumbs up.
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