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bombayrockers


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PostPosted: Tue 11 Oct 2005, 15:55    Post subject: thanks for the menu  

i have just downloaded the menu and other files posted by MU. i will comr up with the dotpup in some time. thanks for being test rabbits (no pun intended ).
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rarsa


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PostPosted: Tue 11 Oct 2005, 16:04    Post subject:  

I'm working on the menu generator. I decided to make it in C instead of an scripting language. The XML parsing is easier in C.

I'll try to have the first version today or tomorrow.

Here is my work plan:
Version | Included
0.1.0 Convert the jwm menu to a menu.xml
0.2.0 Show the correct icons
0.3.0 Generate the XDG structure and menu file
0.4.0 Generate the jwm menu from the XDG structure
0.5.0 Generate the <next wm> menus from the XDG structure


Of course I'm reserving the third level versioning for fixes to each of the stages.

As you can see, I hope this will be the stepping stone for having freedesktop standard menu structures.
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ntrel

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PostPosted: Tue 11 Oct 2005, 16:19    Post subject: startup notification / xfce4-taskbar-plugin / Terminal  

MU wrote:
With these modifications XFCE works very fine for me, except one thing:
When you start a program in the panel, the cursor becomes a clock (waiting) for some seconds, even if the application already started.

That's startup notification - if you want to disable that, right click each panel item, click properties, untick "Use startup notification" Wink.

Thanks to all working on this, looks damn fine.

There's also xfce4-taskbar-plugin for embedding another taskbar in the panel; it also has 'Expand to fill screen' option which makes the panel look better IMO & may be more familiar for Windows refugees Smile. Also it would mean that the original taskbar could be removed (not sure if that'd save memory on balance though). The plugin can be got from the XFCE Goodies project:
http://xfce-goodies.berlios.de/
Also I personally really like the Terminal project - is multi-tabbed, has font anti-aliasing, but it is pretty fat (but not as fat as gnome-terminal) and we already have rxvt, which is pretty good.

Keep up the good work!
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klhrevolutionist


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PostPosted: Tue 11 Oct 2005, 16:26    Post subject: contribute  

Here is my contribution to the xfce app

http://freshmeat.net/projects/xfce4-mount-plugin/?branch_id=60941&release_id=208977

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MU


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PostPosted: Tue 11 Oct 2005, 23:59    Post subject: Re: startup notification / xfce4-taskbar-plugin / Terminal  

ntrel wrote:

That's startup notification - if you want to disable that, right click each panel item, click properties, untick "Use startup notification" Wink.


Oh yes, that's it!

Thanks Smile
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rarsa


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PostPosted: Tue 11 Oct 2005, 23:59    Post subject:  

Disclaimer: Just for testers and developers! This little application is under current development. It's not intended for end users.

OK, I hope that was loud enough.

Acording to my work plan, here is the first release of the translator from the JWM menu to the Xfce menu.

It's written in C for several reasons:

A) It does not need an intepreter.
B) It makes it easier to parse XML.
C) I haven't writen C in 15 years and I thought it would be a good refresher.

Usage:
jwm2xfce-menu .jwmrc [menu.xml]

.jwmrc : JWM configuration file
menu.xml : xfce4 menu file. If not provided, output goes to the console.

So, my recommendation:
- Copy your /root/.jwmrc and /root/.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml files to a test folder.
- Generate your menu.xml file there.
- Backup your original menu.xml file
- Copy your new menu.xml
- Test the menu. (You don't even need to restart the WM)

Known bugs:

- The menu includes all entries even the "JWM restart" entry and it does not include the xfce4 "Quit". I'll add it the next time around.
- Me. Work around: All comments to the source code are well taken. (15 years ago I wasn't even programming C, I was doing C++. after that many other languages, but not C.)

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Change log:
Oct 22, 2005 ver 0.1.1
- This version clean up the input .jwmrc file by removing comments. No more need for the awk command before using this program.
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rarsa


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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2005, 01:26    Post subject:  

[b]EDIT Oct 22, 2005: Version 0.1.1 no longer requires executing the awk command before executing the xfce2jwm-menu program[b]

rarsa wrote:
The parser complains when a comment inside the input file has a double hyphen "--" in it. The work around is to remove the offending comment.
Actually, believe it or not, This is not a bug, but a feature, according to the libxml developers. So, instead of going into esoteric arguments, here is the solution:

Preprocess your .jwmrc file removing the comments using the following command:
Code:
awk '/<!--/,/-->/ { next }; { print $0 }' /root/.jwmrc > .jwmrc.in


You can then use the .jwmrc.in as input to the menu translator.

The next version of the translator will include the removal of comments inside the binary.

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bombayrockers


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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2005, 03:55    Post subject: XFCE OFFICIALLY RELEASED  

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2005, 05:59    Post subject: Xterminal-testing  

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bombayrockers


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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2005, 10:05    Post subject: xfprint4  

rarsa as you are also working on CUPS i would like to ask whether xfprint4 would be usable in puppy with CUPS.
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rarsa


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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2005, 11:07    Post subject:  

I expect that it should work but as with almost everything, I can only be sure after testing it.

Can you send it for me to test?

Thank you,
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bombayrockers


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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2005, 16:04    Post subject: Xfprint4  

the .pup for xfprint4 can be downloaded from http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=xfprint4.pup

REQUEST -> rarsa can you take over the xfprint project as i dont have a printer to test and neither do i have cups
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rarsa


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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2005, 16:07    Post subject:  

I'll do.

But I also need feedback on the menu synchronizer. Did it work for you?
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MU


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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2005, 17:06    Post subject:  

rarsa, works very fine for me (after running you awk-command) Smile

Also my dotpup-submenue was converted correctly.

Good work! Very Happy

Thanks, Mark
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rarsa


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PostPosted: Wed 12 Oct 2005, 19:07    Post subject: Re: xfprint4  

bombayrockers wrote:
rarsa as you are also working on CUPS i would like to ask whether xfprint4 would be usable in puppy with CUPS.
I installed it, It launces, It recognizes my printers (they are remote printers). But when trying to print something using xfprint4 it gives me an error "Unable to print to temporary file" no more details.

Actually, this is one of the components that may not be required for puppy. It is only used to print from the command line.

http://www.xfce.org/index.php?page=documentation&lang=en#xfprint

Puppy already routes the output going to lp to the default printer.

I can do a "cat README | lp " and it sends the printout to de default printer.

Do you still want to include it with puppy just for completeness?
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