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Test iso 14th October
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PostPosted: Fri 14 Oct 2005, 05:16    Post subject:  Test iso 14th October  

Here is the latest, for testing:

http://puppy.wise-guy.us/

Burn it to DVD like this:

Code:
# growisofs -speed=4 -Z /dev/hdc=puppy-multisession-14oct05.iso


where /dev/hdc is the DVD burner drive.

DVD-R single-layer is the preferred media.
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Alienx


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PostPosted: Fri 14 Oct 2005, 06:18    Post subject:  

please, can I burn it to a normal cd-r ?
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Flash
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PostPosted: Fri 14 Oct 2005, 10:24    Post subject:  

Alienx wrote:
please, can I burn it to a normal cd-r ?

I tried that, with Record Now in Windows, but it refused.
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PostPosted: Fri 14 Oct 2005, 17:37    Post subject: burning test ms14 iso on to CD  

I was able to burn and run the Oct14 iso on a no name CD booted slower than the same iso on DVD, but no differences so far.
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PostPosted: Fri 14 Oct 2005, 20:11    Post subject:  

What program did you use to burn it, burniso2cd?
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Oct 2005, 01:04    Post subject:  

Well, preliminary testing shows that DVD+RW might be the only disks that won't work. Both of the (cheap, no-name) DVD+RWs I tried didn't work. I burned the first one with Record Now in Windows. It booted OK. I configured it and then shut down the computer. It seemed to save to the DVD and I don't remember any error messages. but it wouldn't reboot. I had to do a complete erase with Record Now; quick erase wouldn't work.

Then I tried burning it in Puppy with growisofs. That didn't report any errors. When I tried to boot the disk it reported a number of bad sectors or something like that, but started anyway. I shut down saving to the DVD+RW, but it wouldn't boot again.

Just to be sure it wasn't a random bad disk, I tried another DVD+RW from the same stack, with pretty much the same results: it booted, and seemed to save when I shut down, but wouldn't boot again.

So I gave up on using DVD+RW, for now. I already know that DVD-RW works well, at least when initially burned with Record Now. I burned a DVD+R disk with growisofs in Puppy, configured it, then rebooted, saving to the DVD+R. It rebooted fine, with the settings I had made. It's what I'm using as I write this.

When Puppy saves to the DVD on shutdown, at the end, before it's completely done, it ejects the tray then immediately pulls it back. Does that happen to anyone else?

Also, I put a copy of multisession1.0.5 14oct05 in the root directory, so I can burn new disks if I want, but it takes a lot of time to load at each boot and save at each shutdown. I'd try putting it in the 'archive' directory, but I can't find the directory.

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(Later, after more testing) Barry, you're a genius. Now I see why you took out the Archive folder. The 1.0.5puppy.iso file I saved to /root is there when I look for it, but apparently without having to be read from and written back to the DVD every time it starts and shuts down.
Also, I'm happy to report that the mouse acceleration setting is saved, and the burner tray quit shooting out and back in when it finished burning at shutdown. Must be it really doesn't like DVD+RW.
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Oct 2005, 02:31    Post subject:  

Flash,
I don't think DVD+R is as good as DVD-R, as the letter supports 2000 tracks,
but the former ...only about 150 tracks I think.

Near completion of shutdown, the tray opens and a dialog message appears stating that you
can remove the DVD if you wish. It asks you to press the ENTER key to
close the tray.

...I don't know how that is happening, but perhaps somehow you have
pressed ENTER before the dialog displays and that is used...?
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Flash
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Oct 2005, 02:33    Post subject:  

Thanks, Barry. I edited my last post; you may have missed the bit I added.
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Oct 2005, 02:33    Post subject: Re: burning test ms14 iso on to CD  

Ted Dog wrote:
I was able to burn and run the Oct14 iso on a no name CD booted slower than the same iso on DVD, but no differences so far.


It will be good if the side-effect of all this effort focussed on DVD, also results in ms-CD working well Smile
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Oct 2005, 20:24    Post subject:  

Can someone test what happens when the DVD gets full?

Save some enormous files each session, to fill it up.

What is supposed to happen is the rc.reboot-cd shutdown script detects the
DVD is full then asks you to insert a new blank DVD, then makes it into
a bootable live-Puppy DVD and then saves the session to it.
...in theory anyway.

The previous DVD gets "closed", meaning that sessions can no longer be
saved to it, but it is still bootable
-- that could be tested also.
-- also when it shuts down it is supposed to recognise it is full and closed.
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Oct 2005, 21:49    Post subject: reported MS-CD success clouded by error  

Sorry to report after rebooting the MS-CD based on OCT14 iso the script mistook the normal CD for a DVD but cdrecord didn't. Setting would not be saved back. I have a whole set of different DVD types (exept DL - way to expensive ) and will try different settings. It appears the DVD setting in the init-cd script incorrectly Id's everything as a DVD type. I will try to override it to see if it is a slight glich. I am writing from LFS version of linux. I hope to learn more how this stuff is started. Idea
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Oct 2005, 21:58    Post subject:  

I'll do it, but is there an intended place to save stuff so it isn't loaded into RAM when Puppy boots? I thought you had somehow solved that problem without the use of the Archive folder, but that was when I was trying out DVD+R, and the whole thing quit working before I could confirm it. I've switched to DVD-R, which so far seems to work OK, but there is no Archive folder and the stuff I save (in /root) is loaded into RAM every time Puppy boots. This would take forever if the DVD was full, even if I had that much RAM.

On a related subject, does ms Puppy look at the actual size of the DVD, and the actual amount of room remaining? I could use a mini-DVD to speed things up. It only holds 1.4 GB.
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Oct 2005, 22:28    Post subject: use -M  

growisofs -M /dev/dvd -D -R -J /mnt/cdrive/windows/

use the bloat for something good. Cool
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Ted_Dog
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Oct 2005, 22:46    Post subject: dvd+rw-mediainfo on error stream not standard out stream  

testing a no-name CD (burned with ms-14iso) The call to the command goes to error not out.
Code:
DVDRWMEDIAINFO="`/usr/bin/dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/dvd`"

Sad non-DVD media mounted, exiting...


Quote:
# DVDRWMEDIAINFO="`/usr/bin/dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/dvd`"
Sad non-DVD media mounted, exiting...
echo $DVDRWMEDIAINFO
INQUIRY: [AOPEN ][DUW1616/ARR ][1020] GET [CURRENT] CONFIGURATION:


Sorry to miss this earlier. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Oct 2005, 22:48    Post subject:  

I just don't have any idea how this thing works. I burned a DVD-R, booted, saved a 150 MB file to /root, then rebooted. It took so long to save to, then load from the DVD that I assumed it was reading the large file from the DVD back into RAM. But when I rebooted again, it didn't take long to save the little I had changed, and it didn't take long to load. What's going on, Barry?
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