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prehistoric · Joined: 23 Oct 2007 Posts: 1210

@tronkel

I originally posted this in the Puppy 3 series bugs thread. I'm afraid AJ was right about confusion. I can't figure if this should be in "taking Puppy out for a walk"->Announcements or bugs, or cutting edge. Is there an easy way to decide where to post? Confused

Just burned 3.02alpha4.iso and booted with "pfix=ram". Boot message says alpha3.
Setup keyboard, video, networking - no problem.
Change background; conkey background stays same.
Insert flash drive to save setup. Shutdown blanks screen, can't even tell if there is a message about saving.

Personal preference: on a small screen like my laptop I'd prefer to have conkey near the top, with that background. I still prefer galculator to calcoo. I was happy with JWM, (but then any interface has to be better than the O26 keypunch I started computing with.)

Puzzled: the amount of free memory and the memory use displayed by conkey don't add up, alpha 4 appears to have substantially less free than alpha 3.

Minor issue: the fix for SD flash memory Barry posted in his blog on Mar 20 requires two lines in /etc/modprobe.conf to be changed.

prehistoric

alienjeff · Joined: 08 Jul 2006 Posts: 2290 Location: Winsted, CT - USA

ttuuxxx · Posted: Sat 22 Mar 2008, 04:34 Post subject:

well I have the shutdown program 95% complete, I'm having problems with 1 button
-Restart IceWM
----> Fixed thanks to Trapster's idea Smile

-Lock System
if anyone is handy with code, maybe have a look, I could sure use the help to finish this one off.
but it does popup from the taskbar and 5 out of 6 work.
thanks
ttuuxxx

tronkel · Joined: 30 Sep 2005 Posts: 1060 Location: Vienna Austria

@ttuuxxx

I have made the PPdelite theme the default startup, using your latest pet package.

There is still a problem though with the icons not displaying on the root menu system. They are mostly OK when the package is first installed - but if for any reason, fixmenus is called, the root icons mostly disappear leaving spurious ones in place. This appears to be something to do with the XDG menu system.

I did though manage to get the logout menu item to appear along with its shutown sub-menu - so at least that is something.

I have no idea what is causing this problem with the root icons though.

tronkel · Joined: 30 Sep 2005 Posts: 1060 Location: Vienna Austria

@prehistoric

Best to post problems with Chihuahua Alpha 4 to this thread. I visit this a lot at the moment.

Conky configuration can be performed manually by opening /root/.conkyrc
Positional co-ordinates and colour can be changed here. Could do with a GUI for this.

Problem of saving a personal file to USB has returned again. I thought that was fixed several versions ago. USB recognition in Puppy can often be flaky. Can depend on the make of USB stick as well. It's hard to know what to do about that. I include Barry's latest changes, but who knows if sometimes the upgrades themselves have a knock-on effect elsewhere in the system. Is this with running from live CD or from frugal? What a pain Sad

The memory footprint has not changed a lot since Alpha3. Freememapplet measures free memory on a different basis from Conky. If there is no pup_save file, Freememapplet shows current RAM free space as well as free swap file space in it's total. If a pup_save is in use, it should show only remaining space in the pup_save. That is as far as it appears to function on my system here.

Freememapplet seems to be bugged though. It has conflicts, in particular with Icewm. Ttuuxxx was talking about looking around for something else. Good idea I think.

The 2 line modprobe.conf changes will be included in the next version

trapster · Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 1966 Location: Maine, USA

ttuuxxx wrote:

ttuuxxx · Posted: Sat 22 Mar 2008, 08:33 Post subject:

@ Tronkel

I have no Idea what your talking about Smile

I must of fixed menus 30 times since installing this theme and its still 100% icons.
Maybe your cd is scratched, or your not using the latest one, or maybe you need to reboot,
I just did the fixmenus again and still perfect. I haven't had 1 complaint like that yet.
Has anybody else have icons missing since fixmenus ?????
ttuuxxx

ttuuxxx · Posted: Sat 22 Mar 2008, 08:37 Post subject:

prehistoric · Joined: 23 Oct 2007 Posts: 1210

ttuuxxx · Posted: Sat 22 Mar 2008, 09:54 Post subject: Re: conky

[quote="prehistoric"]

tronkel · Joined: 30 Sep 2005 Posts: 1060 Location: Vienna Austria

@ttuuxxx

I'm still having problems with mini-icewin

If this gets installed using your pet package, then it seems ok.

Problem is that I have to install this via Unleashed by converting your dotpet back to a folder. There appears to be some sort of bug within the createpuppy script that messes with the menu system of installed window managers - in particular with icewm. I believe that EZpup may also have been affected by this bug.

I tried a work-around by interrupting the Unleashed build and copying the /root/.icewm folder from an already installed version of icewm using your pet package. With this method, the root menu shows OK on a first boot, but then gets corrupted if either a new package is installed or fixmenus is called.

If Barrry reads this, perhaps he could have a look at the problem as regards the different handling of windows managers vis a vis Unleashed and PetGet. I'm sure there is a problem here.

Until or if this can be fixed, I'd suggest going back to JWM as the default and directing the user to install seriesv32 via your dotpet - or perhaps leaving seriesv32 in there complete with the broken menu and telling the user to install the dotpet over it again - which appears to fix it - inconvenient though.

What might help is if you could tell me which version of Puppy you were using when you built the dotpet, and exactly what you took out, that might affect the way Unleashed processes the package. - maybe XDG stuff? Did you also have JWM installed at the time?

ttuuxxx · Posted: Sun 23 Mar 2008, 05:32 Post subject:

@tronkel Wooohoooo I finally see what you mean. I converted it back to tar.gz and then manually extracted it over the original theme and yes the icons were missing until I typed fixmenus
Then they all came back
Wouldn't it be best just to have JWM removed and the old version of lite icewm completely, then it wouldn't have a choice but to take the new one completely? I would also have /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc removed since if jwm is gone no need for it.
Also maybe have someone look at the /usr/sbin/fixmenus script and make sure the jwm doesn't have any effect on icewm
ttuuxxx

ttuuxxx · Posted: Sun 23 Mar 2008, 07:13 Post subject:

oh ya some taskbar icons needed, but mostly of for Gaim, you get 2 really nice looking identical taskbar buttons and you can't tell them apart very confusing.
Firefox is missing a directory for flash
/root/.mozilla/plugins
If you make that empty directory and then visit a flash site and click on a flash embedded object to activate it, It will auto installs flash. Which is very nice Smile

But without it you have to manually install flash.
ttuuxxx

tronkel · Joined: 30 Sep 2005 Posts: 1060 Location: Vienna Austria

@ttuuxxx

The latest version I'm working on has no JWM at all. I tried it with JWM as well though - still no go. The only version of icewin that is currently in the Unleashed build is your latest serialv32

Unleashed calls fixmenus during the build and I think there might be a problem there. It is doing it differently from PetGet. I wonder if the author of fixmenus could help here. I don't know who to approach here.

I also hope Barry can do something with the ./createpuppy script that would fix this.

I reckon that we are stuck with JWM as the default until such times as this get fixed. Your pet package can always be added to the pup_save after installation.

trapster · Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 1966 Location: Maine, USA