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wow
Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 950
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Posted: Sat 05 Apr 2008, 03:38 Post subject:
Gnome 2.20.3 SFS (Only for Puppy4) Subject description: The GNOME desktop environment |
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This is another preview, some features are not available or may not work properly.
Note: This SFS works better with the old puppy-4.00
Download
Installation:
Start with a fresh Dingo, i.e. "No pup_save" ('puppy pfix=ram')
Choose Xorg as X server
Then run these commands: | Code: | addgroup haldaemon
adduser -SDH haldaemon -G haldaemon |
Also remove '/root/.gtkrc-2.0' to avoid problems with the gtk theme in Gnome.
Now install [Dingo-Xorg-DRI.pet] (by Kirk)
Copy gnome-2.20.3test02_398.sfs to the same partition where the new pup_save.2fs will be saved. (rename the version number, _398, if needed)
Now reboot and save session.
To start GNOME exit X and type:
Extras:
Notes:
1. I compiled everything with puppy-3.96-seamonkey-k2.6.24.iso, for the i686 architecture and with the '/usr' prefix.
2. This SFS was packed with squashfs 3.0
3. If the 'Computer' directory is empty repeat all my install instrucctions carefully.
4. If you had xvesa as the X server you will see an strange error window regarding something about the keyboard, I don't know how to solve it..
5. List of installed packages: [here] and [here]
Enjoy.
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wow
Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 950
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Posted: Sat 05 Apr 2008, 04:07 Post subject:
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Troubleshooting:
Change dpi if fonts are too big:
If the disk label has spaces: set the mount point manually:
Mounting UDF disks as iso9660:

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Eyes-Only

Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1022 Location: La Confederation Abenaquaise
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Posted: Wed 16 Apr 2008, 17:16 Post subject:
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Hiya Wow!
Gee whiz... I hope since nobody's replied to this until today that you haven't gotten discouraged in thinking that no one's using your terrific Gnome.sfs file because that couldn't be further from the truth my courageous Puppian friend!
What a fabulous project you've undertaken here! And I'm using it---and enjoying it immensely I might add! I've really put the .sfs file through its paces as well and to date the only two things I've discovered so far which haven't worked is that Epiphany segfaults (maybe because I installed Firefox 2.0.0.12 and changed over to the full binary version of SeaMonkey 1.1.8?) and that I am unable to change the mouse pointer---neither of which is a big deal to me.
One other issue that the jury may be out on is that it may not be antialiasing properly. However, Wow, I have poor vision myself so I'm not the one to be making that determination. I can read it and I'm having a blast, I'm able to do a day's work, so no problem!
Actually, this is the very first time I've been able to fully enjoy Totem. It doesn't even work that well in my Mint 4.0 so I use Xine instead when in Mint. Totem, so far, has worked fine though I've yet to try a DVD.
You've just done one totally phenomenal piece of artwork here Wow and I've been meaning to return and tell you about it, and that I'm using it, etc. (I even tried to remaster with it included but I don't know anything about remastering and have wasted a lot of "coasters") I wanted to let you know at any rate.
Please keep up the fabulous work my friend, okie? I can't promise you I'll try others because I'm that satisfied with this one, you know? But I hope someone will come along who'll keep trying them!
THANK YOU!!
Amicalement,
Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge"
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wow
Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 950
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Posted: Thu 17 Apr 2008, 21:49 Post subject:
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| Eyes-Only wrote: | | ... and that I am unable to change the mouse pointer---neither of which is a big deal to me. |
Copy/Extract your mouse cursor theme to '/usr/X11R7/share/icons' or '/root/.icons' and try again.
| Eyes-Only wrote: | One other issue that the jury may be out on is that it may not be antialiasing properly. However, Wow, I have poor vision myself so I'm not the one to be making that determination. I can read it and I'm having a blast, I'm able to do a day's work, so no problem!  |
Hmm... try to play around with Rendering: System(menu)>Preferences>Appearance>Font.
| Eyes-Only wrote: | | Actually, this is the very first time I've been able to fully enjoy Totem. It doesn't even work that well in my Mint 4.0 |
Oh, Mint. I haven't tested Mint yet, but the Mint's Menu works in Puppy [read more]
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Eyes-Only

Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1022 Location: La Confederation Abenaquaise
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Posted: Thu 17 Apr 2008, 23:54 Post subject:
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Thanks for the hints and tips here Wow. Next time I've booted into my Gnome Puppy I'll give those a try, especially the mouse pointer as I have one that I especially like and use.
As to the antialiasing, however, it's not all that much of a big deal really, and yeah---that's exactly where I go for the settings on the font (I've used Gnome on & off over the past couple of years).
I'm just so terribly impressed here on how you've managed to pull this off Wow. THAT'S what I can't get over! I mean---how you've managed to have made Gnome to look like a "native Puppy desktop environment" the way you have. How you've managed to get the "About Puppy" to appear right underneath the "About Gnome" in the "Settings" section, and how you've gotten Puppies settings to pepper the Gnome settings panel, etc. That's a brilliant piece of work.
I wished I could've managed that remastering I was attempting. Ah well... "C'est la vie!" as we say.
Again Wow: Thanks for everything as this is greatly appreciated!
Amicalement,
Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge"
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Eyes-Only

Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1022 Location: La Confederation Abenaquaise
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Posted: Fri 18 Apr 2008, 00:15 Post subject:
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Update: That worked on the mouse pointer by the way: I copied some out from another install on another partition and placed them to "/root/icons". That did the trick Wow. Thanks again!
Hmm... today the fonts seem fine though I've changed nothing. Maybe I simply needed a reboot. I'd made a tonne of changes that day and I wasn't exactly "with it" at the time unfortunately.
Thanks!
Amicalement,
Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge"
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puppyluvr

Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 3053 Location: Chickasha Oklahoma
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Posted: Fri 18 Apr 2008, 23:15 Post subject:
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Hello guys
I downloaded the SFS , made the daemon changes, and rebooted.
Then I droped out of X...Typed xwin gnome-session...VIOLA...HUH???
I dont have Gnome, but.....I do have both JWM and Openbox..AT THE
SAME TIME.. Both menus function, everything works...
The JWM taskbar autohides, revealing the openbox panel!! The
wierd thing is that EVERYTHING WORKS from both WM`s...
Both taskbar/panels show the other panel minimized!!!
I might leave it for a while...kinda cool...
I know I should have removed Fatdog first, but I forgot..
Still, how is this possible????
The shaded window in both shots is this Firefox session I`m typing this from.
..........Puppyluvr...........
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puppyluvr

Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 3053 Location: Chickasha Oklahoma
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Posted: Sat 19 Apr 2008, 01:07 Post subject:
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Rebooted...tried again...xwin jwm = JWM...xwin openbox = openbox
xwin gnome-session = BOTH, but no gnome!
Looks cool though..
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Openbox on top, JWM on the bottom |
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Lobster
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Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 15109 Location: Paradox Realm
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Posted: Sat 19 Apr 2008, 01:56 Post subject:
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Getting Gnome working on Puppy was considered impossible
by one Puppy Master.
Being impossible seems no obstacle for the determined Puppy hacker.
Well done indeed. Looking forward to further enhancements
Any more Gnomee fans?
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wow
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Posted: Sat 19 Apr 2008, 03:33 Post subject:
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| puppyluvr wrote: |
Rebooted...tried again...xwin jwm = JWM...xwin openbox = openbox
xwin gnome-session = BOTH, but no gnome!
Looks cool though..  |
certainly my gnome sfs wasn't loaded in your Puppy (it doesn't have openbox...) Launch 'Bootmanager' and check if gnome-2.20.3test02_398.sfs is one of the top 3 SFS's loaded by Puppy.
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puppyluvr

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Posted: Sat 19 Apr 2008, 13:30 Post subject:
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Hey
No its there...
I think im in JWM but with the Openbox panel..
It will probably work after I remove Fatdog, but I`m enjoying the mutation for now...
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Eyes-Only

Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 1022 Location: La Confederation Abenaquaise
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Posted: Sat 19 Apr 2008, 15:38 Post subject:
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Hi Puppyluvr!
Are you absolutely sure you followed Wow's instructions to the letter? Now when I read those I took them to mean that I had to start with a fresh Dingo, i.e. "No pup_save" because you have to make a new pup_save in the end in you follow the directions logically and by the letter. Well, that's how I interpreted them anyway---but I've been known to usually be wrong. LOL!
I do know that I didn't use the Dingo that I already had, but instead grabbed the beta (398) that's out and used that one instead. First I wiped out my A6 pup_save (it was just for testing anyway) and then started fresh.
Did you also remember to add HAL to the userlists like Wow pointed out above? Also, did you add that .pet file he'd made too? There's all those steps that have to be done before making the pup_save---as I understood it anyway---then I shutdown, made the pup_save, moved the Gnome.sfs over and started back up. When I started up I was asked in the process whether or not I wanted it added to the bootmanager and I said "yes", but I rebooted yet again after going to the bootmanager anyway just to make sure.
Odd that it worked like a charm for me. -scratches bald head-
@Lobster: Nothing is impossible. LOL! Sorry mate! I couldn't resist!
Well, I probably haven't helped the situation any, but I guess I was just stunned when I'd read how it didn't work for you and it was so flawless for me. -sigh-
Amicalement,
Eyes-Only
"L'Peau-Rouge"
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Béèm

Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 11782 Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win
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Posted: Sat 19 Apr 2008, 18:48 Post subject:
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I am in Gnome now.
I just have a problem when Gnome starts. I get first the jwm desktop for a short while and then the Gnome desktop, but the problem is there is a message saying the Gnome settings daemon didn't start correctly or something the like. Some settings like background etc. might not work correctly.
I must say I didn't follow the procedure in post 1.
I started with the beta 1 pup_save file, which I had renamed for Gnome previously, so I didn't loose already installed programs.
About this browser, is it FireFox?
Can FireFox extensions and addons be installed?
Maybe it's subjective, but I have a feeling of more speed.
EDIT:
Found the reference of the addons, but none is there which is of interest.
Not like SeaMonkey yet.
Forgot to mention that sometimes icons are missing like in the top panel for internet access and e-mail. Elsewhere as well.
Also I am missing the little applet indicatio storage left, as well as connection icons (blinky?)
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wow
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Posted: Sat 19 Apr 2008, 20:53 Post subject:
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@puppyluvr: As Eyes-Only said you must start with a fresh Dingo, i.e. "No pup_save".
| Béèm wrote: | | I get first the jwm desktop for a short while and then the Gnome desktop |
That's because 'xwin' runs /root/.xinitrd which start the ROX pinboard. To prevent desktop flicktering between ROX and Nautilus I added the command 'killall ROX-Filer' to the Autostart list(System(gnome menu)>Preferences>Sessions)
| Béèm wrote: | ... there is a message saying the Gnome settings daemon didn't start correctly or something the like. Some settings like background etc. might not work correctly.
I must say I didn't follow the procedure in post 1. |
Please do it. And don't forget to choose Xorg.
| Béèm wrote: | | About this browser, is it FireFox? |
It's epiphany-2.20.3 [web site]
| Béèm wrote: | | Can FireFox extensions and addons be installed? |
| http://live.gnome.org/Epiphany/ProjectFAQ wrote: | Does Epiphany run Firefox extensions?
No, but epiphany-extensions adds some features found in popular Firefox extensions. |
| Béèm wrote: | | Maybe it's subjective, but I have a feeling of more speed. |
Hmm maybe. I haven't used Ephiphany/Gnome before, feels good though
| Béèm wrote: | | Also I am missing the little applet indicatio storage left, as well as connection icons (blinky?) |
Those are applets for gnome-panel, you have to add them manually.
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puppyluvr

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Posted: Sat 19 Apr 2008, 23:28 Post subject:
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Hey Wow,
As I figured, I redid it but removed Fatdog..
Worked like a charm..
So this is Gnome..never used it before..
Cool, I`ll be busy checking this out..
Thanks for the SFS...
P.S., I kept the mutant 'two window managers" pupsave too..
Gonna check it out some more too...
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