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Wbar: a fancy launchbar (using Imlib2)
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richard.a


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PostPosted: Tue 06 May 2008, 06:35    Post subject:  

Wolf Pup wrote:
Made wbar into a .pet package (overwrites any .wbar in /root , so backup if you dont.)
Needs imlib2-1.4.0 to work.

wbar-1.3.3.pet
md5sum

imlib2-1.4.0.pet
md5sum

Works very nicely, and thank you for the opportunity to try it out.


I've tried it on 2.16ez, 2.16 without ez, and 2.15ce, and 3.00, and it's on the basis of seeing it in operation on those, I make the following observation, nothing to do with your packaging of the product, though, but on the product itself.

I believe it would look and behave appropriately on a system that uses the KDE desktop with "Zoom Icons" enabled (like the Mac taskbar has).

I think it looks out of place when run in conjunction with the Ice-Wm or JWM desktops that puppy uses because it isn't harmonious with their operation.

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Jaybekay


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PostPosted: Tue 06 May 2008, 11:14    Post subject:  

Wolf Pup wrote:
Made wbar into a .pet package (overwrites any .wbar in /root , so backup if you dont.)
Needs imlib2-1.4.0 to work.

Wow! Does wbar ever make a big difference to JWM. Thanks for the .pet packages. It made wbar super easy to get going.

I'm not big on eye candy other than a decent wallpaper and icons. But since I always line up my most used application icons along the top of the screen anyway, wbar is a nice addition. My brother in law loves the dock in OS X, now my little Puppy gets something dock-ish.

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wolfwatcher51

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PostPosted: Tue 06 May 2008, 18:40    Post subject:  

Hello Jaybekay, nice job with wbar.

I was wondering if you have tried it with a dark, but not absolute black background? When i tried darker backgrounds than the blue one like yours, I got a black rectangle around wbar. When you first change the background the rectangle looks like a snapshot of the blue background until you reboot.

I have set my codes for wbar to be like those from prit1, earlier in the thread, except I put them in .inixtric (sp?). Thanks, Chris.
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prit1


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PostPosted: Tue 06 May 2008, 18:45    Post subject:  

@wolfwatcher51: I just replied on your other thread.
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Jaybekay


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PostPosted: Wed 07 May 2008, 08:36    Post subject:  

Hi wolfwatcher
Is this what you are talking about? (picture is worth a thousand words)

Mine does this when I change backgrounds. I just right click around the wbar to turn it off (with the old background) and then left click to turn it on with the new background. It would be nice if it could auto update like conky does
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PostPosted: Wed 07 May 2008, 13:03    Post subject:  

Jaybekay and prit1,

Thanks for the replies.

Prit1, I got your input on my other thread, thanks so much.

Jaybekay, yes that is it.

To all, the information on this and one of my other threads is right on. I do not know why, but when I get the large colored block, light blue in jaybekay's pic, I find that if I just right click on it, it appears to take a new snapshot and looks transparent without doing anything else. I follow the procedure anyway.

What I did see was that with each reboot the colored block comes back and you have to right click each reboot. Then I went into .wbar to change an icon and guess what, wbar seems to have remembered the snapshot, or took a new one, and further reboots did not require the right click.

Maybe there is something in its program that gets it to automatically take a new snapshot on the first reboot after the .wbar file is edited. If the developer of wbar could edit it so that it took a new snapshot with each reboot, then that would be cool. "No job is too difficult for somebody else to do", one of my favorites from previous corporate employment. Laughing Laughing

I hope this helps somebody else and thanks for the help, Chris.
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PostPosted: Wed 07 May 2008, 13:56    Post subject:  

@wolfwatcher51: Which window manager are you using? You can put a sleep before auto-starting the wbar in such a way that wbar loads only after the window manager/wallpaper etc are loaded completely. This way, the first time wbar comes up - will not have any black background. It will appear transparent. Mine works with sleep 3.
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PostPosted: Wed 07 May 2008, 20:11    Post subject:  

wolfwatcher51

My screenshot was after changing from a light wallpaper to the blue one. I'm pretty sure I had your problem with the black area too. Have you changed your wallpaper since the problem fixed itself? I think I had the problem disappear, until I changed wallpaper. Then the next reboot it was messed up again.

Eventually, I edited the .xinitrc file so (I think) the background comes up first, then wbar starts. Since the wallpaper is already up, the first "snapshot" is a good one. Here's what I changed to:

Code:
qiv -z /root/Choices/ROX-background.jpg
conky
wbar -jumpf 0 -pos top -nanim 3 -zoomf 1.25 -idist 10 -isize 48 -bpress -balfa 0  &
#exec $CURRENTWM
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PostPosted: Sun 11 May 2008, 01:10    Post subject:  

In my on going attempt to make my Teen Pup look OS Xish,I have been doing some mods to the Wbar.
I gave the backbar a bit of a perspective tweek ala OS X Leopard and use scalable icons so they won't pixelate too much when they bloat.Let me know what ya think.


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PostPosted: Sun 11 May 2008, 02:04    Post subject:  

Meshica7 wrote:
In my on going attempt to make my Teen Pup look OS Xish,I have been doing some mods to the Wbar.
I gave the backbar a bit of a perspective tweek ala OS X Leopard and use scalable icons so they won't pixelate too much when they bloat.Let me know what ya think.

Cool Please explain exactly what you did to Wbar to get the backbar in perspective like that. Enquiring minds want to know! Razz

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PostPosted: Sun 11 May 2008, 03:07    Post subject:  

Is this gOS with Awn or Puppy with Wbar?
(I was working on the same thing at the same time as Meshica7 was. Great minds think alike ... Smile. I will let Meshica7 explain.
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PostPosted: Sun 11 May 2008, 05:36    Post subject:  

I would think that the "shelf" would have to be included the background with wbar sitting on it.
The partial reflections are a little strange.

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Meshica7


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PostPosted: Sun 11 May 2008, 12:23    Post subject:  

WhoDo wrote:

Please explain exactly what you did to Wbar to get the backbar in perspective like that. Enquiring minds want to know! Razz


Here's what I did to get that perspective look on my Wbar's backbar.

Go to: usr/share/wbar/wbar.icons

Open the osxbarback.png (yours may be called "barback.png") with Gimp.

Note: Make a copy of this file before you mod it and put it somewhere safe in case something gets screwy.

Once you open the file,choose the Perspective tool (looks like a blue trapezoid) and click on the image. You should now see "handles" at the four corners of the image.Use them to tweek the image until you achieve the desired effect (the image has a checkered grid in the background,use it as a guide). There will be a pop up window showing you numerical values of what you have done.Click the Transform button to apply your changes.Now save the file (it will save to the right folder unless you moved it).Note: At this point a dialog box will appear asking you to Export the file.Just go ahead and click the Export button.Quit Gimp,restart X server,and "Shazam"! Fancy OS X like Wbar!

Note: I have the -balfa value set to 85 in my .xinitrc doc.

Or I can post a copy of the file and you can replace it yourself Smile .

prit1: The backbar in your screenshot looks like the backbar that Dreamlinux uses by default in the dock app.I am not sure if it is Wbar or something else.I was thinking about grabing a copy of the backbar png. file from my Dreamlinux CD and giving it a whirl in my Teen Pup.I'll keep you all posted.
BTW: In Dreamlinux,the dock icons are animated to great effect with cool prefs such as Spin,Bounce,Bloat,Glow,and Fade. It is some serious eye candy Very Happy !

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PostPosted: Sun 11 May 2008, 12:55    Post subject:  

Thanks for explaining that Juan! That was fascinating!

When I stop and ponder about the programming and artistic talent we have around here---and that's just mentioning two of the multitude of qualities/talents found in people at this forum!---it just boggles my mind! Shocked The things we achieve with this little 87meg distro (plus variants) are just truly astounding in scope people. I wonder how many of us here really understand and fully appreciate this?

Well, for me to say more would be akin to me getting onto a soapbox and start yet another great ramble session so I best stop. Wink

Great website by the way Juan. Fellow Native American I see? Only from the other side of the "imaginery border"? LOL! (I'm way up here in the cold northeast. -BRRR!-)

Amicalement!/iHasta la vista me hermano!

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PostPosted: Sun 11 May 2008, 13:57    Post subject:  

Yeah my result also achieved exactly as Juan mentioned using the Perspective tool in Gimp. And the icons are reflective icons downloaded from kde-look.org. These icons were already being used in Macpup. Smile

Juan - BTW... forgot to mention - Great job. Looking forward to see many more such creations from you. The animations (in Dreamlinux, gOS and the like) are achieved using 3D dock's like Awn, Cairo Dock etc. If you have a 3D enabled graphics card, then you can try downloading wNOP (I dont know if you already did) and the Cairo Dock.

Links to both:
wNOP - http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=163087
Cairo Dock - http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=26488

Infact if you have Xfce (like in wNOP, NOP, Happy etc), you may be able to get more Mac looking themes from http://xfce-look.org.
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