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The LINUX BARRIER: Dial Up Modems
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syzygy

Joined: 03 Jul 2005
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Location: wollongong

PostPosted: Mon 24 Oct 2005, 07:53    Post_subject:  

luckily my toshiba lappy, has a Lucent DSP1648 (Mars 3) PUPmodem.

Not sure if this has been mentioned previously, but this site has listings of Linux friendly modems & their manufacturers:-

http://start.at/modem

One such manufacturer is Dynalink. See this link:-

http://www.dynalink.com.au/support/linux.htm

seeya
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aahhaaa


Joined: 06 Oct 2005
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Location: Lower Michigan, North America

PostPosted: Mon 24 Oct 2005, 07:55    Post_subject:  

afterthought: I don't know which would be the right forum for it, but I'd be curious to see a poll on just how people are communicating with this forum.
dial-up using Windows?
dial-up using 'other' Linux?
dial-up using Puppy?
broadband, etc...

any bets on where the majority are? Very Happy
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aahhaaa


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PostPosted: Mon 24 Oct 2005, 07:59    Post_subject:  

G'dye Syz- good info post! Very Happy
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Sage

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PostPosted: Mon 24 Oct 2005, 08:31    Post_subject:  

Some folks just don't want to listen to good advice!
All internal modems lack l.e.d. signalling lamps, lack an on/off switch so cannot be reset or stopped suddenly, often need a specific driver and often insist on slot 4 installation. They are better than Winmodems, but lack general application and aren't portable.
QED.
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syzygy

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PostPosted: Mon 24 Oct 2005, 09:12    Post_subject:  

sage,

you are absolutely correct. now if you can just convince barry to remove pupget support for lucent, slmodems & conexant modems, puppy will be a winmodem free zone. (can we also do something about proprietary bioses booting up our puters?).
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Sage

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PostPosted: Mon 24 Oct 2005, 10:16    Post_subject:  

No problem. Just lift the proprietary label from your EEPROM BIOS chip to find it's true ID, buy a batch of blanks for a few beans each and write your own BIOS - one for each day of the week/day of the year?!
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Flash
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PostPosted: Mon 24 Oct 2005, 16:55    Post_subject:  

Check out the interest in this thread about HCF/HSF (soft)modem drivers.

aahhaaa, I hope your ebay seller can make that modem work in Puppy. I bought a USR/3Com 5610B modem a few years ago but could not get it to work in Mandrake. The modem would dial my ISP and negotiate a connection with the ISP's modem, then hang up. I switched to high-speed cable internet before I got it figured out.
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aahhaaa


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PostPosted: Mon 24 Oct 2005, 18:10    Post_subject:  

Flash- thanks for the crossref; seems many people are plugging at this! He said it was working... Rolling Eyes Prob'ly back into the Fedora Core right now.

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Sage

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PostPosted: Tue 25 Oct 2005, 01:58    Post_subject:  

Very belatedly, I looked up BarryK's advice on modems. What he says is very clear; it concords with professional views in the antipodes. For those who haven't read his advice yet, I'll give you a clue:
Nice one, Barry!
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PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct 2005, 12:55    Post_subject:  

Barry: "Jcoder24 has done some superb work getting HSF/HCF analog modems to work in Puppy. I would have liked these to be available via PupGet as well, but have run out of time -- I want to obtain a compatible modem first -- so targetting it for 1.0.6 ..."
24Sept05, http://www.goosee.com/puppy/news.htm
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aahhaaa


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PostPosted: Fri 28 Oct 2005, 09:29    Post_subject:  

... I keep thinking about syzygy's tiny little Bill Gatz hiding away in the BIOS... Cool
dang, wish he hadn't brought that up! Wink
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PostPosted: Fri 28 Oct 2005, 21:26    Post_subject:  

there's peoples working on this. check linuxbios, openbios & freebios. result for 8086 however seems in distant future
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ezeze5000


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PostPosted: Sat 29 Oct 2005, 20:06    Post_subject: inexpensive External Modem  

(Quote)
The Live CD movement recognizes that, as did the graphical desktop. BUT... if the average uncommitted computer user is can't make Linux communicate in something under an hour of fiddling, I'd submit that 9 out of 10 people will give up with the impression that Linux is too complicated for them.

This 'fail' scenario is hidden in the multitude of distros, machines, and other factors facing the new user; but it is the main hurdle now that a desktop appears automatically. From the desktop, with a connection, they can get work done, while learning the Linux way.

This link might help fix this problem.

http://www.acortech.com/.sc/ms/cat/Modem--External

I haven't tried this modem (yet), but it is a hardware modem and they say it works with Linux.

(Edit)
Well here I am posting this on my new Diamond SupraExpress 56e PRO modem.

They really do work just fine!

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Sage

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PostPosted: Sun 30 Oct 2005, 01:21    Post_subject:  

The SupraExpress, like all serial modems, will work out-of-the-box on any OS without specific drivers. At that price, it'd be worth taking up the offer to buy ten and give them away to friends intent on Linux. The Aceex is a USB device and best avoided.
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Yogi

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PostPosted: Sun 30 Oct 2005, 03:37    Post_subject:  

After seeing all the interest in this topic just thought I'd add my two cents. Back seven months ago when I made my foray into Linux I ran into the winmodem wall and after much research and frustration I realized that the quickest and best way for me to get access via dialup was to get an external/hardware modem. The prices varied from approx $15 to $80. I bought the following and it worked great. Puppy was off and running.

http://www.gearxs.com/gearxs/product_info.php?products_id=3464

I might add that I've used this modem successfully with DSL, Knoppix, Sam, and Mepis. Today I have DSL for $14.95/mo. and use Puppy to do all my surfing. Excellent bandwidth by the way. May the broadband wars continue!

p.s. If you do opt to buy this particular modem from this site the only option you need is the "upgrade to retail box" as it has everything.
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