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klhrevolutionist


Joined: 08 Jun 2005
Posts: 1124

PostPosted: Thu 27 Oct 2005, 10:56    Post_subject:  Charter cable/ setup web space  

Alright. I finally got my webspace account up.
Now I need some help. I read the instructions, but not sure
what in the world it wants. am i supposed to feed this monster
something ? Has anyone used charter let alone cable with puppy.
And if so, could you help the revolutionist out ?
High Speed 3M/256K, 1 IP, 10 emails, 20 MB of webspace, 3 security keys
Whatever that means ? Is that good ? 20mb does'nt sound to hot.
but as long as I can link my torrents that would work as well!

Here are the instructions.
Step 1: Open your browser and type in ftp://webpages.charter.net. Click enter.
Step 2: Enter your username and password in the dialog box. Click 'login'.
Step 3: Open the folder on the hard disk where your files are located.
Step 4: Position the folder window so you can see both it and the Internet Explorer window.
Step 5: Drag and drop the files from the folder window to Internet Explorer to upload them.
Step 6: View your webpage by going to http://webpages.charter.net/"username".

Am I supposed to upload a webpage or files ?
I must contact Dan wormer he uses charter!


Any help would be kind as it would be for the benefit of puppy as well.

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MU


Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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Location: Karlsruhe, Germany

PostPosted: Thu 27 Oct 2005, 15:25    Post_subject:  

well 20 mb is20 mb.

So you can host your codec-dotpup which is 15 mb, and some smaller ones.
You can upload each type of file, a codecs.pup or a index.html

index.html you can create with NVU or OpenOffice.
It is the textfile, that will be displayed, when someone types in the location of a folder on your webspace.

Example: http://klh.org/index.htm (The main website, you also could type http://klh.org )
http://klh.org/dotpups/index.htm (A website that displays all dotpups in this folder).

Off course you can set a link in a website to your torrent.
As a link is just a small text, you can pup 10000s of links on your 20 MB.

Instead of using the internet explorer to drag&drop files, you enter the FTP-adress mentioned in GFTP (Puppystart - Internet - gftp).

Greets, Mark
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klhrevolutionist


Joined: 08 Jun 2005
Posts: 1124

PostPosted: Thu 27 Oct 2005, 18:45    Post_subject: Well  

Well I am no good at html. And moz composer & openoffice are seeminlgy
aggravating.
But after looking at the the post below I guess I will just use a simple html ?
Although I was offered some web space by somebody else. So maybe I
will see what it all amounts to. I dislike commerce.

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dvw86


Joined: 04 May 2005
Posts: 636
Location: Washington State

PostPosted: Thu 27 Oct 2005, 20:26    Post_subject:  

I use Charter with the same package for my home web service. It is alright but you do not get any PHP, CGI, or SQL with the web space. This means that most wiki's and such will not work. It just supports flat (simple) html pages.
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Pizzasgood


Joined: 04 May 2005
Posts: 6270
Location: Knoxville, TN, USA

PostPosted: Thu 27 Oct 2005, 20:44    Post_subject:  

If you want webspace, your isp is generally not the best place to go. I've seen free plans better than that (One I used was 50mb, php, and mySQL, though they did have google ads. Actually, google ads are the best that can happen to you as far as banners go). My host, Jaysworld, has a $1 per month plan with 150 megs, php, and mySQL, for example. It is ad supported, though. For $3 per month, you get 350mb, 1.6gb bandwidth, and no ads. $3.95 bumps it up to 400mb and 25gb (that's what I'm using).

I'm not trying to advertize them, just use them as an example. And if nothing else, that 20mb can be used just as storage


As for making webpages, I just use good old beaver or leafpad.

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danleff


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PostPosted: Fri 28 Oct 2005, 07:05    Post_subject:  

For web page authoring, WYSIWYG, try NVU.
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puppian


Joined: 18 Jul 2005
Posts: 538
Location: PuppyLand

PostPosted: Sat 29 Oct 2005, 07:07    Post_subject: Re: Well  

klhrevolutionist wrote:
But after looking at the the post below I guess I will just use a simple html ?


A simple web page looks like this:

<html>

<head>

<title>
Title of your page which you'll see in the browser's title bar
</title>

</head>

<body>
BODY OF YOUR PAGE.
</body>

</html>

Copy the words in red to a test editer, then save the file as index.html (this will be the front page; you can also save it in other names, klh.html for example)
The capital letters are what you'll see when you open the *.html file in a browser.

Those <****> are called tags. They are instruction but NOT content (so will not be shown in the browser window).

Most tags require a closing tag. E.g, <html> means the start of an html document, and </html> is the closing tag indicating the end of the document. Content goes between <html> and </html>.

Empty lines (and spacing) won't affect how the page looks in the browser. E.g,

<html><head>
<title>Title of your page which you'll see in the browser's title bar
</title>
</head>
<body>
BODY OF YOUR PAGE.</body>
</html>


will give exactly the same page as the one above.

To add line break, use the tag <br> E.g,

<html>
<head>
<title>Title of your page which you'll see in the browser's title bar
</title>
</head>

<body>
BODY OF YOUR PAGE.
<br>THIS IS THE SECOND LINE.
</body>

</html>

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Pizzasgood


Joined: 04 May 2005
Posts: 6270
Location: Knoxville, TN, USA

PostPosted: Sat 29 Oct 2005, 11:31    Post_subject:  

http://webmonkey.wired.com/webmonkey/
That's where I learned most of what I know about web-development except PHP, which I learned from the excellent manual. They have some pretty good tutorials.

You also might want to start with xHTML instead of HTML, as it's almost the same, but slightly better. Mostly, it encourages good coding habits as it's more strickt than HTML. Single tags like <br> or <hr> need to be <br /> and <hr />. <p> needs a </p>. Tags should be lowercase, and attributes neet to be quoted (<td rowspan="3"> instead of<td rowspan=3>). It also needs a header like this
Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
       <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
           "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">



Whatever you decide to do, good luck!

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willhunt


Joined: 05 Oct 2005
Posts: 495

PostPosted: Sat 29 Oct 2005, 17:51    Post_subject: I aways  

use just plain text editor and the info from this site http://www.idocs.com
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