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Xine vs Xfmedia
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PostPosted: Mon 21 Apr 2008, 13:30    Post_subject:  Xine vs Xfmedia
Sub_title: Xfmedia is far better than Xine
 

Hi,

I'd been having some problems with Xine. Well, it was driving me crazy, chopping, stopping, freezing. For the following test I got an mp3 music file and a flash video file and used the same ones for comparison with both Xine and Xfmedia.

I noticed that Xine plays mp3s and movies like a chopped blender. So I gave Xfmedia a whirl and it plays them beautifully, no chopping, etc.

Another benefit is that when I run Xfmedia on a video file it pops open and gives me the entire video in a small visible area, Xine by contrast only gives me 1/4 of the top left of the image area. If I try to expand that it freezes or plays part of the video and then freezes.

Xine also freezes part way through playing the video files. Whereas Xfmedia can play the whole thing flawlessly.

My thought is that Xfmedia works far better than Xine. Just an opinion.

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Apr 2008, 15:01    Post_subject:  

How did you install xfmedia?
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PostPosted: Fri 25 Apr 2008, 13:01    Post_subject: xfmedia-0.9.1: Audio Player, uses libxine  

Hi Beem,

I believe I just used the built-in petget manager (Pet Install on the default desktop), its listed as "xfmedia-0.9.1: Audio Player, uses libxine".

I've also been using PSI as well to install various things and I found it by simply searching PSI, xfmedia, and it turns up as a listing, one of which is a pet, but a pup and tar are also available.

I've also got the xine_extra_codecs-1 installed. Again I just used petget.

Hardware: My laptop is an old IBM 380XD 96mb of ram, and I'm running Puppy 3.01 (the retro version). I configured the sound card through the wizard. That worked fine. I guess that's about it.

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Apr 2008, 14:48    Post_subject:  

I'm wondering if it might have to do with the 96megs of RAM Yorkie? That would be my first thought anyway. I say this as I've got 512megs of RAM and Xine works fine for me all the way around, be it hard drive installs, non-Puppy installs, or Frugal Puppy installs. In fact, that's all my grandson and I use to watch DVDs as it's so easy to use system-wide.

So that would be my first guess anyway.

Myself? I've never had any luck with Xfmedia, and barely any luck with MPlayer (except via browser plugins). Next best to Xine for me is VLC---but I strongly dislike that as the GUI isn't highly intuitive IMHO.

Oh well... "Chacun a son gout!" as we say, eh? Wink

I hope this comparison helped? Good to see you again too Yorkie!

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PostPosted: Wed 30 Apr 2008, 14:32    Post_subject: Interesting Observation  

Hi Eyes-Only,

Its nice to hear from you again. Smile

You make an interesting point. I suppose its because I'm such an ol' stubborn geezer I expect everything to work in 96 mb of ram. I forget that most machines have far more, in fact lots more.

Oddly, exactly the same little flv video's play beautifully in xfmedia but stutter in xine on my old laptop. I'm not sure what to make of that.

Obviously I'm in a ram challenged environment, where the maximum ram for the IBM 380 XD is 96 mb. I've maxed out. I don't really consider it a multimedia machine in any sense since I use it mostly for mail and writing. I've no DVD of course. Of course 96 mb is not Puppy's ideal ram space, and I use a swap space as well.

We've another ram challenged Compaq Presario pc here (over 190 mb+) that exhibits the same problem with Xine running under Puppy 3.01. I should put xfmedia on it as well and see if that makes a difference there as well. It might be useful for some if it works consistantly and ends the stuttering issue I have in my low ram situation. I never tried VLC.

Basically, the video thing has come about because I'm trying to learn guitar, and I'm watching some tutorials in flv format. Not large files but its nice to finally be able to watch them in xfmedia using my Puppy Linux OS.

Until later,

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PostPosted: Sat 24 May 2008, 17:08    Post_subject: Xfmedia works better  

Hi,

Yes, I can report that at least in my situation xfmedia works much better than gxine. I still can't get gxine to work, but xfmedia does play the same flv files flawlessly. So it works better than the default player.

You can download it using normal installation of online files using petget, PSI (which is great) or download the pet file from: http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet_packages-2/xfmedia-0.9.1.pet

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Jun 2008, 09:05    Post_subject: Changing the "play" desktop shortcut to point to xfmedia
Sub_title: linux newbie tip
 

Hi All,

Since Gxine doesn't work so well, I want to avoid using it entirely. I decided to open the "play" icon in a text editor which opens Gxine by default and change the file so that it would point to xfmedia instead. Its remarkably simple. Anyone can do it.

Right click on the file, choose "File Play", then "Open as text". The file opens and displays the following text:

Before

Code:
#!/bin/sh
exec gxineshell "$@"


Copy and paste the second line, change the second line to read, exec xfmedia "$@" then comment out the third line which points to Gxine with a #

After

Code:
#!/bin/sh
exec xfmedia "$@"
#exec gxineshell "$@"


Notice I commented out the old line with a #. Save the file and your done. Whenever you click on it from now on the file will open xfmedia.

Cool!

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Jun 2008, 14:14    Post_subject:  

Hi Yorkie! Smile

I wanted to thank you for that tip mate! For the past 2+ years that I've been using Linux now whenever I've changed these little .conf files in whatever distro I happen to be using at the time (usually Puppy but I do use others of course) it's always been my practice to wipe out the original programme replacing it with MY programme of choice.

Don't care for Geany being default and prefer Medit? No problemo! Just wipe out Geany and replace with Medit and presto!---new default editor, eh? I give this as an example of many which I change. (BTW: I usually make it Leafpad. Wink )

However, after reading your above manner of doing this I think I'll adopt that approach from now on. Why? Because it has the added convenience of reminding me later on just what the default originally was. In some cases when I've made changes I've discovered afterwards why the default was the defacto default---but working with this leaky brain of mine? It's only too easy to forget what that default was!

Your method shows me at a glance. Thanks my fellow Puppian friend! Smile

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