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Macpup Dingo

#1 Post by prit1 »

Macpup Dingo

A simple remaster of Puppy Dingo to make it look attractive

Only the appearance of Puppy Dingo has been changed. Features and functionality should be the same.

Thanks a lot to Barry and everyone involved in creating Puppy Dingo.

Thanks to Caneri for the server space in Puppylinux.ca.

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Macpup_Dingo_A - 95MB

- Based on Puppy Dingo
- Icewm Package (Extremely small package from Ttuuxxx)
- Wbar (Docker application)
- Modified Brushed Metal theme for ICEWM.
- Grub boot menu. (Message file from CatDude)


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Here is the link:

http://macpup.org/

MD5: 593750f33cd40190f5594074968bd800

Here is the latest screenshot. ENJOY !!
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#2 Post by Lobster »

Just to remind Macpup_Dingo_A.iso is the one to download
- it is clear enough but I downloaded the older version . . .
:)

Many thanks Pritish - got your voicemail on Gizmo :)
Will let you know how I get on . . .
I still think Macpup should be called Ibone . . . :oops:

Really glad you provided a Dingo version :)
It has already made Puppy news
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#3 Post by nic2109 »

@prt1 : you might like to know that your sendspace download site is blocked by my corporate proxy/filtering (I've changed the company name to XXXXX) :

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This site has been blocked by the XXXXX Proxy using BlueCoat WebFilter software.
Identified categories: "Spyware/Malware Sources;Online Storage;Software Downloads"
Luckily Caneri's is OK, so you might want to see about adjusting your site's metadata.
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#4 Post by Lobster »

The boot up sequence has a very pleasant two selection scrollable menu for boot options. How much resources are required to run that? Very nice!

The layout uses an intuitive mac style icon bar and a plain desktop. MacPup seems similar to 'SimplePup' one of my fav puplets - which used XFCE. Macpup uses the very efficient and reliable IceWM.

It seems very familiar with all the Dingo programs.
I am just about to try an add on from here . . .
http://tmxxine.com/wik/wikka.php?wakka=DingoAddons

So far woof woof :D
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#5 Post by prit1 »

@nic2109:

Sendspace is blocked even from my office .. Lol .. This is because most file sharing sites are blocked by corporates. Anyway Caneri's will not be blocked. As it is not my site, I dont think I can play with the meta.

@Lobster:

I am glad Gizmo worked for me. I think it was a new laptop where the audio drivers were not enabled well by Puppy. I got onto my older laptop where Puppy works well. And in 2.17.1 got voice working. Horray!! :)

Thanks for trying Macpup Dingo.
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Can't Eject CD

#6 Post by davec51 »

I love the look and feel of Macpup, but after I made a separate 2fs file and copied the sfs file to my hard drive root, the CD stays mounted on reboot and I can't eject it. I know I'm doing something wrong, but I can't figure it out. I have used several other versions of Puppy without encountering this problem. Please help.

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#7 Post by prit1 »

@davec51:

Firstly, thank you for trying Macpup Dingo.

Regarding the problem,
- Did you eject (umount) the CD before the reboot?
- Did you try booting into another version and eject this CD later?

Does anybody else have this issue?
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#8 Post by davec51 »

When I use PMount I see that both the hard drive and the cd drive are mounted. The "UMNT" button is greyed out for both drives.
I'm guessing that the boot didn't see the appropriate sfs file on the hard drive. I'm going to try deleting both sfs and 2fs files from the hd and trying again. I'll tell you how it goes.

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#9 Post by prit1 »

@davec51:

For me, I tested both frugal and livecd and both worked fine. Anyway, I will wait to see what you find.
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CD Won't Eject

#10 Post by davec51 »

I took out (renamed, actually) both the sfs and 2fs files on my hard drive and booted with pfix=ram. The CD drive was still mounted and couldn't be unmounted by using PMount. So the CD drive was not usable for other purposes, as in other versions of Puppy.
I think I know the problem: I have only 192mb RAM. Could Macpup Dingo need more, so it doesn't copy entirely to my RAM? That would also explain why other versions, that maybe require less than 192mb, do go entirely into RAM and free the CD drive.
If so, this problem doesn't take away from your achievement of an elegant, beautiful OS.

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#11 Post by prit1 »

@davec51:

Thank you for verifying. I did read somewhere that Dingo might use more memory when compared to its predecessors even thought its size is smaller. I cannot validate it though.

Maybe I will try running it on mine and see the memory usage. Have to wait till I get home to get on my Macpup laptop.
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#12 Post by prit1 »

@davec51:

I think you were right. I booted from a Macpup Dingo (pfix=ram) and did a FREE command in the console after bootup. It showed more than 200 MB of RAM being used.
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#13 Post by cartz »

Macpup is brilliant!!!!! :D

I love the look of it as do the kids who have demanded we change from standard Dingo to Macpup.

I am ssuming that there is no way to re-use my pup_save file from my standrd dingo install? I tried booting Macpup with it and, aside from a few different icons it appeared as standard dingo.

So I guess I'll gradually install the various pets, java etc and my files from my standard dingo but I'd like confirmation that this is the best way to do it.

Thanks heaps for Macpup!

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#14 Post by HairyWill »

On the subject of memory usage, I did some comparisons here with one of the dingo alphas and some earlier versions:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 705#161705
When using output from busybox free you should remember that it includes the cache and buffers. Whilst some will say that you should subtract cache and buffers in frugal usage this is where the pup_400.sfs is held and cannot simply be ignored. My charts show that when the squash file is loaded into ram dingo uses less ram than 3.01 but more than 2.13. Looking at the 3 curves at the bottom shows that if the squash file isn't loaded into ram (or you have a full install) the memory requirements are fairly close.

I think the cut-off for dingo to load into ram is approx 224-230 MB.
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#15 Post by pigshed »

I tried macpup last night, very nice. My first experience with Wbar. I'm sure this has been covered somewhere already.. but .. is there an easy way to configure wbar . I read on one website about a python tool you could download and run .. I also looked in the suggested location for the data to enter manually but it seemed to bare no resemblance to what was shown in wbar ...

As for running it on a low memory machine .. I tried it on a 192mb machine with no problems. this may not help davec51, but I downloaded the ISO and copied the files into a /macpuppy directory off root then just added a grub entry to run it .. (which means I've missed out of the pretty boot options). I guess davec51 is still booting off the CD and just speeding things up with the files on HD ??

I'm afraid this is all very new to me .. so thanks for "free" .. todays command to play with ! Just tried it on my 192mb machine running muppy 8.3e - I have 3.5mb free with nothing running .. uhmmm and on my 320mb machine I have 4.5mb free with firefox running and about 10 tabs open .. though neither show swap as being used..

Slightly off subject, n both machines I now have several versions of lunux/puppys - all show the trash as Empty . yet looking in .local or using the graphical disk usage tool - I see lots in trash ! If I go in to delete the files manually from trash off the drive, will they go from trash straight back into trash ? or a special command to clear it out "pooper scooper ?" A forced delete of files generally - shift+del doesn't seem to work, is there an equivalent.

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#16 Post by smokey01 »

Prit1, good work on Macpup Dingo.

It looks very nice and polished, quite tidy in fact.

I did find a problem though. I quite like Hotpup in Dingo but it doesn't work in Macpup.

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#17 Post by prit1 »

@cartz:
Thanks for the good feedback. I would recommend starting afresh instead of re-using an existing pup_save file. I have had some problems doing this with another version.

@HairyWill:
Thanks for the link to that thread. Very informative.

@pigshed:
Thanks for the good feedback.
Regarding wbar, you can read the below thread. It is 7 pages though. :)
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=19742

Two things you can play around with are
- editing the /root/.wbar file to add or remove or change icons/programs
- editing the /root/.xinitrc to change the options in wbar.

You can get all options available by doing the following command in console.

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wbar --help
Hope this info helps.

@smokey01:
Am glad you liked Macpup Dingo.

When you say, Hotpup did not work, does it not show you any icons at all? I will have to check this one.
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#18 Post by smokey01 »

prit1 wrote:@smokey01:

When you say, Hotpup did not work, does it not show you any icons at all? I will have to check this one.
The problem is when you try and activate Hotpup.

Please see screen shots attached.

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#19 Post by prit1 »

@smokey01:

Yes I did see that error message. I have posted on the Hotpup thread requesting help. I am not sure myself. It looks like Hotpup settings script is not able to modify the .xinitrc.
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#20 Post by Archie »

Pardon me if this may sound stupid ... but I have been trying to reach [url]http://tipsforeveryone.com/macpup/[url] for several days now and I cannot even seem to reach the URL from northeast China.

So I was wondering if there are any other mirrors for this particular type of Puppy derivative?

I'd really love to try this out.

TIA for any response.

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