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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jun 2008, 10:52    Post subject:  

I just wanted to mention that I have been running 'Airmail' on top of Wine for some years. It works well with some Linux versions, although I have had problems when trying to install on a few (vanilla Debian included)

Airmail runs well on Ubuntu 7.1 and (since switching to Puppy) am pleased to say that it runs fine on 'Dingo' (over VHF/UHF packet) and over a regular telnet connection (I have not tested on HF as I don't have a Pactor TNC)

http://www.siriuscyber.net/ham/

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PostPosted: Wed 02 Jul 2008, 23:29    Post subject:  

I stumbled upon CQRLOG for Linux and it is the most robust free Ham logging and rig control and dx-spotting, etc I have found!

I also acquired the G4ZLP USB-to-mic-port CAT interface for my Yaesu FT-857D (to keep the rear CAT port open for future tuner and amp control.

PROBLEM: I cannot get CQRLOG via Puppy to talk to the device.

Puppy "sees" it via USBview and it is not red.

I have tried /dev/ttyUSB1 and /dev/usb/ttyUSB1 and neither work.

I checked and both the rig and CQRLOG are set for 9600 baud, not sure if I need to change any other settings.

WDYT?

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jul 2008, 07:59    Post subject:  

Someone from the CQRLOG list posted this in response to my question (similar to the one I posted here). If the FTDI chipset supported by Puppy? It is supposed to be in the "standard" kernel. I don't recall how to request the data he sent from his (see below) ...

Quote:

It depends on the chipset used in the interface. Therte are still some
chipsets with proprietary parameters and the manufacturer ignores the
linux! Anyway, such chipsets should be avoided!

It is quite tricky to investigate that G4ZLP uses FTDI chipset for his
interfaces. These FTDI are one of the best and are widely supported in
Linux, however this support must be enabled in the kernel (assumed that
you compile your own kernel - it is a must, unfortunately it is hardly
possible to dig into every distribution and study how they built their
kernel!).

Your kernel can be the culprit if it is built without USB port drivers
(FTDI).

Here is the part of my kernel .config which shows that the FTDI support
is built as module (so not directly into kernel).

#
# USB port drivers
#
CONFIG_USB_USS720=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL=m
CONFIG_USB_EZUSB=y
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_GENERIC=y
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_AIRCABLE=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_AIRPRIME=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_ARK3116=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_BELKIN=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_CH341=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_WHITEHEAT=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_DIGI_ACCELEPORT=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_CP2101=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_CYPRESS_M8=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_EMPEG=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_FTDI_SIO=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_FUNSOFT=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_VISOR=m

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jul 2008, 08:13    Post subject:  

Does this mean that the FTDI drivers (scroll down)are loaded?

Code:
# lsmod                                   
Module                  Size  Used by
usb_storage            83264  0
pwc                    96256  0
compat_ioctl32          1408  1 pwc
gspca                 683344  0
videodev               27904  2 pwc,gspca
v4l2_common            16896  2 pwc,videodev
v4l1_compat            14596  1 videodev
wlan_wep                6784  1
evdev                  10240  0
parport_pc             31716  1
lp                     12616  0
parport                35528  2 parport_pc,lp
snd_mixer_oss          16896  0
usbhid                 24928  0
usblp                  14080  0
ftdi_sio               34184  0

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jul 2008, 08:22    Post subject:  

Hi doc

Useful bash commands

lsmod = gives installed hardware

dmesg = gives clues about failed module loads

modprobe > device = check loaded module, if not autoloaded

rmmod > device = removes badly loaded modules

could be usb serial is not loading

try modprobe ohci-hcd,

&

modprobe usbserial

there may also be specific interupts used, so you could try booting with different params, see pci

http://www.puppylinux.org/wiki/archives/old-wikka-wikki/categorydocumentation/bootparms


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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jul 2008, 09:33    Post subject:  

Thanks for the assist!

This is what happens when I send those commands! Smile

# modprobe ohci-hcd

# modprobe usbserial

#

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jul 2008, 10:10    Post subject:  

Do these settings in the app CQRLOG sound correct?

/dev/usb/ttyUSB1

Serial speed: 9600
Stop Bits: 1
Data Bits: 8
Handshake: None
Parity: None
DTR: Unchecked
RTS: Unchecked

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jul 2008, 11:20    Post subject:  

Hi doc

Don't know if you have this

http://www.ham-radio.ch/doc/Ham%20Radio%20Deluxe.pdf

or if this link is any use

http://kd0afl.freehostia.com/2008/04/28/psk-31-on-linux/

here is homepage

http://cqrlog.sourceforge.net/

maybe try the forum there, or pm the devs

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jul 2008, 11:26    Post subject:  

I have posted my questions also to the CQRLOG list.

The USB port works for a mouse, external HDD, USB camera, USB memory stick, etc. but here it is being asked to function as a communications port via the FTDI chip.

I think that my previously posted data indicates that Puppy 3.01 includes the FTDI driver(s) so it is a puzzlement as to why everything is not talking to everything else!

I will contact the manufacturer of the G4ZLP interface and see what they have to say.

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jul 2008, 16:35    Post subject:  

The vendor of the interface which uses a FTDI chipset wrote:

Quote:
Comport set to ? Must be set to virtual comport and virtual comport MUST be present BEFORE starting your software.
/dev//usbttyusb1 ?????????????????? Sounds like unix.
Whatever OS, your OS will have been provided with a virtual comport and it's
the comport that should be used.


Does this give a clue at all as to what he is looking for?

I am guessing that /dev/usb/ttyUSB1 is not what he needs.

I tried searching on "puppy linux virtual com port" and "puppy linux usb virtual com port" and got nowhere.

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jul 2008, 21:06    Post subject:  

looks like you still have some testing to do!

I found this info, but I'm not sure how you'll use it

http://docs.tibbo.com/soism/index.html?vspdl.htm

http://www.tibbo.com/vspdl.php

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COM_port_redirector

3rd page in gives virtual, but read 1 & 2 to understand terminology

http://www.linux.com/base/ldp/howto/Serial-HOWTO-9.html

maybe one of these would work?

http://www.g4zlp.co.uk/unified/usb2rs232.shtml

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jul 2008, 21:21    Post subject:  

I anticipate that if "virtual com ports" exist in Puppy there is a chart of equivalences between /dev/usr/ttyUSB1 and a specific virtual com port.

Any idea where that Puppy-specific standard chart might be?

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jul 2008, 21:49    Post subject:  

nah

only thing springs to mind is windoze in a virtual machine, qemu or similar

anyone else?

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Jul 2008, 17:34    Post subject:  

BUMP!

I am now trying the same device with Puppy 4.00/Dingo.

USBView flags it as RED unlike 3.01 which did not.

I have the same questions and problems - how do I get this to work since according to the Linux kernel docs this device is supposed to be supported.

Help?

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PostPosted: Sat 26 Jul 2008, 10:17    Post subject:  

Hi There Doc

More suggestions, though this is for a new high speed RS232 cable I spotted, which is advertised as; cross platform, 230kb/s, & 'seen as normal comport'

I think it uses the pl2303 chipset rather than ch341 normally used on these converters, & I believe Puppy4 still has issues

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=27992

maybe worth research/borrowing/enquiring of them if it'll work with your rig?

http://www.keyspan.com/products/usa19hs/homepage.spml

I wonder if there is some gender problem/interrupt problem here, since other devices work on that port

have you been here?

http://www.w1hkj.com/index.htm

& here

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/linuxham/

& of course

http://cqoogle.com/search/index.php

Have you considered adding an RS232 board to the PC instead of trying to get this usb problem sorted? - might be quicker/cheaper?

Good luck

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