Gnomad2 v2.9.6 + libmtp for MP3 players

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Gnomad2 v2.9.6 + libmtp for MP3 players

#1 Post by tempestuous »

Gnomad2 is a gui for managing music files on the Creative Nomad/MuVo/Jukebox/Zen range of MP3 players, plus the Dell Digital Jukebox. These devices use Creative's custom communication protocol called "PDE" (Portable Digital Entertainment). This protocol is accessible via the libnjb library included in the Gnomad2 package.

Additionally, "MTP" (Media Transfer Protocol)-based devices are also supported, with the included libmtp library. Examples of such devices are by iRiver, SanDisk, Cowon, Nokia, SonyEricsson/Sony Walkman.
MTP is part of the "Windows Media" framework and thus closely related to Windows Media Player.

UPDATE 2014
This application remains useful for the old Creative devices, but modern MTP devices, especially Android smartphones, are now better supported by the go-mtpfs utility, in combination with various GUIs. Refer here -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=91442

Let me be clear: both of these custom communication protocols, PDE and MTP, are not accessible to Linux without dedicated applications such as Gnomad2.
On the other hand, if you have a "conventional" digital audio player which is seen as a standard USB mass storage device, you require no special application at all. Just connect the device to Puppy via USB, mount the device as a normal external drive, and transfer your music files using the ROX file browser.

The iPod is a whole different story. For that you need gtkpod -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=59183
http://www.gtkpod.org/wiki/Home

The iRiver range of MP3 players includes some models which are UMS mode (standard USB mass storage), some which are MTP, and recent models which are dual-mode.
Some of the early models can undergo a firmware upgrade which will change their mode -
www.iriver.com > SUPPORT > Download
but apparently the Clix 2GB ang 4GB models are fixed in MTP mode.

UPDATE Jan 01 2014
I have just repackaged gnomad2 with the latest v1.1.6 libmtp libraries, available here -
http://minipc.org/ipup/download/gnomad2 ... -1.1.6.pet

This should add support for recent MTP-compatible mobile phones such as Nokia's, and even Android-based Samsung phones.
This dotpet package was compiled under Puppy Lucid 5.2, and should work with more recent Puppies as well.

For the 2.x/3.x/4.x series Puppies, this package probably won't work, so the older Gnomad2-2.9.4 version remains available -
http://minipc.org/ipup/download/gnomad2-2.9.4.pet
This was compiled back in 2007, so don't expect it to work with modern devices.

The Gnomad2 homepage is here - http://gnomad2.sourceforge.net/
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#2 Post by trapster »

I have only gotten gnomad to work in 109CE and never could get it to work in my current 216 frugal install.
When I want to use it, I always have to reboot into 109.

When I saw this I gave it a try and got this message:

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sh-3.00# /usr/bin/gnomad2
LIBMTP_Get_First_Device: No Devices Attached
This is a PDE device
The windows open and the light goes on my Creative Zen Micro for a few seconds, but freezes up from there.
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#3 Post by tempestuous »

UPDATE:
For Gnomad2 to work in the Puppy 2.x series (and avoid a lockup) it appears that libusb must be upgraded to version 0.1.12, now attached.

Gnomad2-2.9.4 should work OK in Puppy 3.x/4.x without any additional libraries.

Gnomad2-2.9.6 should work fine in Puppy Lucid 5.x
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#4 Post by tempestuous »

UPDATE:
Puppy 2.x might (?) also require these updated USB/nomad hotplug utilities.
The USB hotplug files are from Vector Linux, originally from http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net/
The nomad hotplug configuration files are from the libnjb source code http://libnjb.sourceforge.net/
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#5 Post by tempestuous »

Puppy 2.x might (?) also require the lsusb utility.
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#6 Post by trapster »

Success!!!

I tried each .pet and restarted gnomad each time. No luck after all 3 .pets.
I decided to reboot to see what happened and lo and behold, I have a list of songs from my player in gnomad2!!!!!

Thanks tempestuous!!!!

Maybe I should have rebooted after each .pet, but I hate rebooting:)
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#7 Post by tempestuous »

That's good, but we don't know which packages were truly required, and which were not.
If someone could establish this in the future, please report.
The fact that trapster needed to reboot suggests to me that the hotplug files may have been the most important.

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#8 Post by Spanky »

I'm using Puppy 3.01 and only had to install Gnomad2 to get things working. I even have that "Play for Sure" junk loaded into the firmware of my Creative Zen Micro.

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Module                  Size  Used by
snd_pcm_oss            41888  0 
usb_storage            83264  0 
iptable_mangle          2944  0 
iptable_nat             7428  0 
ip_nat                 17324  1 iptable_nat
xt_state                2432  5 
ipt_REJECT              4608  1 
ip_conntrack_ftp        7568  0 
ip_conntrack_irc        6800  0 
iptable_filter          3072  1 
ip_conntrack           46348  5 iptable_nat,ip_nat,xt_state,ip_conntrack_ftp,ip_conntrack_irc
ip_tables              12744  3 iptable_mangle,iptable_nat,iptable_filter
snd_mixer_oss          16896  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_midi            8736  0 
snd_seq_midi_event      7296  1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq                48080  2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
ndiswrapper           179740  0 
usblp                  14080  0 
ide_cd                 39200  0 
cdrom                  36768  1 ide_cd
squashfs               47620  0 
apm                    20304  0 
snd_ens1371            24352  0 
gameport               14856  1 snd_ens1371
snd_rawmidi            23584  2 snd_seq_midi,snd_ens1371
snd_seq_device          8460  3 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
snd_ac97_codec        101668  1 snd_ens1371
ac97_bus                2304  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm                75656  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_ens1371,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer              22020  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd                    52068  9 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq,snd_ens1371,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore               7520  1 snd
snd_page_alloc         10120  1 snd_pcm
i2c_viapro              9236  0 
i2c_core               22032  1 i2c_viapro
via_agp                10240  1 
agpgart                34128  1 via_agp
uhci_hcd               24076  0 
usbcore               127128  5 usb_storage,ndiswrapper,usblp,uhci_hcd
nls_iso8859_1           4224  0 
nls_cp437               5888  0 
Restarted X server, couldn't find any menu entry, so I selected /usr/share/applications/gnomad2.desktop and low and behold, there it was.

Then I found the menu entry....(sigh).

Hope this helps.

Spanky

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Note: gnomad2-2.9.2.pet works for my Zen

#9 Post by mikemason »

Just wanted to add a note that gnomad2-2.9.2.pet works for my Creative Zen 1.01.03 out of the box :) [thanks :)]

If you have a Zen it should work for you too [Dingo 400]

PS... when I bought this zen I was thinking forward [2002]... & I knew I wanted to go linux so I wanted an Open mp3 Player & Creative was it [PC Mag]

This is only my thoghts.... other player s may have been Hacked... but I think Creative may have wanted to be Open for the start.

Thanks again to "gnomad2-2.9.2.pet" for the work, Mike

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#10 Post by brymway »

I have a Sansa Fuze. I'm working on getting it to work. I must be an idiot. I can't hardly see what nomad does. I'm a little dense. Anyone get a Sansa working?

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#11 Post by tempestuous »

April 2009
Gnomad2 updated to latest ver 2.9.4
See first post.

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#12 Post by DaveS »

Works nicely on 4.2, except that it does not put a little icon in the menu. Little known feature of Gnomad is that it allows you to build a playlist directly on your mounted MP3 player. Works well with later Sony Walkman and Samsung players.
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#13 Post by tempestuous »

DaveS wrote:it does not put a little icon in the menu.
Yes it does, I just checked now.
The official gnomad2 icon is quite complex, and doesn't look very good at 16x16 in the JWM menu, but you can easily change to another icon by modifying /root/.jwmrc

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works! thanks

#14 Post by firak »

works -otut of the box - for a creative zen tuoch - player.
installed on puppy 4.1 on eepc701.
thanks tempestuos!

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#15 Post by tempestuous »

UPDATED to version 2.9.6, July 11, 2011.
This version was compiled specifically for the Puppy Lucid 5.x series. In particular this involves udev rules which will not be compatible with earlier Puppies.

I have left the older 2.9.4 version attached as well, which was compiled and tested in Puppy 4.x.

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#16 Post by firak »

THAK YOU tempestuous .
my old mp3 player is still working.
Windows7 does not support it enymoare (is child of ms not ricognized animoare).
as usual I can relay to puppy linux comunity, so i can sntrasfere new music in my old creative mp3. also now that I muved to puppy 528.
thaks again (why is not in the repository?) :lol:

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Nomad still going strong

#17 Post by TTW »

tempestuous wrote:UPDATE:
For Gnomad2 to work in the Puppy 2.x series (and avoid a lockup) it appears that libusb must be upgraded to version 0.1.12, now attached.

Gnomad2-2.9.4 should work OK in Puppy 3.x/4.x without any additional libraries.

Gnomad2-2.9.6 should work fine in Puppy Lucid 5.x
I used the pets in 4.1.3 and in 5.2.5

Now looking at Jemimah's Saluki do you think that the 2.9.6 pet will work in Saluki?

Thanks
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#18 Post by Flash »

2.9.6 seems to work fine in Precise Puppy as well.

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#19 Post by tempestuous »

January 2013
Gnomad2 ver 2.9.6 now updated with the latest libmtp library.
See first post.

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Gnomad2 v2.9.6 + libmtp for MP3 players failed

#20 Post by iw2evk »

Hi,
i've download the puppy 5.2. package of gnomad for connect via MTP my smartphone Nolia lumia 920.
the program say "no device connect to usb".
Suggestions?

Many thanks in advance

Roberto

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