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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Tue 07 Oct 2008, 05:00    Post subject:  

Hi, I guess one of my pet-peeves from 4.0 ended up in 4.10
The default puppy software manager should be petget, so You can rerun the dependency check, So many times I put together an application and have to check the libs a few times, So I manually have to change the icon on the desktop, from pupget to petget., Then it lets me check the libs again.
could we have a dependency check button on the newer puppy package manager? now that would be nice

Also the "mount" is nice with tabs, but who uses a floppy? shouldn't the main default be hard drive/cd/floppy tab.
That means everytime I want to view my hard drive partition, I have to click a tab first, hmmmmmm new extra step.

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PostPosted: Tue 07 Oct 2008, 05:49    Post subject:  

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who uses a floppy

Too many presumptions on this and most other fora from folks with go-faster stripes. In the real world, it aint like that; many users struggle along without any burner- some without a USB port.
Apart from which, yesterday, I think I only used the FDD apart from the spinning reserve on HD.

Update for SiS chipset no-poweroff feature. 4.1std also introduces the same new innovation of rebooting as retro. There are guys who must know the origin of this fault since early version shutdown properly as well as 4.1alpha6(?)-conservative. Allegedly, several laptops also exhibit the problem.
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PostPosted: Tue 07 Oct 2008, 05:57    Post subject:  

Sage wrote:
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who uses a floppy

Too many presumptions on this and most other fora from folks with go-faster stripes. In the real world, it aint like that; many users struggle along without any burner- some without a USB port.
Apart from which, yesterday, I think I only used the FDD apart from the spinning reserve on HD.

Update for SiS chipset no-poweroff feature. 4.1std also introduces the same new innovation of rebooting as retro. There are guys who must know the origin of this fault since early version shutdown properly as well as 4.1alpha6(?)-conservative. Allegedly, several laptops also exhibit the problem.


Hey Sage

most users of puppy use usb flash, hard drive, cd and lastly floppy(wake Pup mostly, but not for actual storage)
but anyways I'll just install the old pmount from 4.0
just kind of a pain the new way for a person who only runs live and doesn't save any settings.
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PostPosted: Tue 07 Oct 2008, 06:06    Post subject:  

Begging to differ, my illustrious friend. Maybe correct in Ontario & Sydney but the masses of the great unwashed are using HW that wouldn't disgrace Mr Noah. You'd be amazed what passes for a PC in the great wide world.
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PostPosted: Tue 07 Oct 2008, 06:19    Post subject:  

MUT doesn't work and when I tried to use MUT from 4.0 that didn't work also, So no-more MUT.
I always liked it for a backup. "Old Faithful". P mount from 4.0 works fine on 4.1 Smile
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PostPosted: Tue 07 Oct 2008, 06:30    Post subject:  

Sage
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Update for SiS chipset no-poweroff feature. 4.1std also introduces the same new innovation of rebooting as retro. There are guys who must know the origin of this fault since early version shutdown properly as well as 4.1alpha6(?)-conservative. Allegedly, several laptops also exhibit the problem.

? 4.1 is the first puppy version that shutdown HAS worked for me on this SIS 630S beater.
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PostPosted: Tue 07 Oct 2008, 07:12    Post subject:  

If you wander a short way up the coast from Sydney you will find me using floppy discs to transfer files onto my job specific i486 laptop. If the file is too big for a floppy disc then it goes on a Smart Media card which then goes into a Flashpath floppy adapter (needs window$ but the job specific applications are all pure DOS programs anyway).
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PostPosted: Tue 07 Oct 2008, 07:45    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
The firmwares will install into /lib/firmware when the 'dvb-usb' module loads the first time.

Didnt work.
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PostPosted: Tue 07 Oct 2008, 08:01    Post subject: Re: Bugs  

NathanO wrote:
Even if I 'unload' the b43 and try and load the bcm43xx it will not see the wireless.

I think you also need to rmmod ssb, since that's the modules that's actually attached to the pci device.

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PostPosted: Tue 07 Oct 2008, 08:05    Post subject:  

KKTK,

I am not yet using 4.1 but the solution to your problem may be simple.

Puppy 4.0 required the .sfs files to be stored no more than 1 folder depth. I have seen nothing to say this has changed for 4.1.

I suggest you store all the files, vmlinuz, initrd.gz and the .sfs file in:
/puppy.410

NOT
/boot/puppy.410

The menu.lst file then becomes:

rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0) /puppy.410/vmlinuz PMEDIA=satahd PDEV1=sda1 psubdir=puppy.410
initrd (hd0,0) /puppy.410/initrd.gz
boot

Note that the root=/dev/ram0 parameter has not been needed for a long time and I have added PDEV1 to help puppy. The psubdir parameter is located on the same line as the kernel command.

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PostPosted: Tue 07 Oct 2008, 08:32    Post subject:  pup_410.sfs not found.  

Tnx ICPUG for answer, but still no difference...
Actually all my sfs files are located directly in c:\ (and now also in c:\puppy.410 dir).


SOLVED!

Problem was that sfs file was UPPERCASE (in win in FAR Manager it looked lowercase Neutral )

now also psubdir= is working correctly and pup_save file is under puppy.410 dir. Thanks ICPUG!
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PostPosted: Tue 07 Oct 2008, 09:15    Post subject: Power-down fails with Sis chipset  

I can confim that both Puppy 4.0 and 4.1 fail to power-down my PC.

FWIW Mobo is K7S5A and chip set SiS 735. A "popular" board a few years back so there may be a lot still around.
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PostPosted: Tue 07 Oct 2008, 09:19    Post subject: wrong drive icon indication  

I've got 9 drive icons (partitions) on the desktop.

Whether I use Pmount or right click on the drive icon and select Unmount the text MNTD does not go away and just changes from Green to Yellow.

This only happens to the first of the drive icons!

Anyone care to confirm this as a bug?
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PostPosted: Tue 07 Oct 2008, 09:49    Post subject:  

davesurrey
you cannot unmount the drive, that has pup_410.sfs on it.
It is mounted as /mnt/home, which is a symlink to /initrd/mnt/dev_save

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PostPosted: Tue 07 Oct 2008, 10:11    Post subject:  

Quote:
K7S5A and chip set SiS 735

Most popular board ever made by a very large margin, although it had/has it's idiosyncrasies! The 735 chipset was/is the fastest chipset ever marketed - everything, N. & S. bridge, integrated onto one piece of Si. Watch out for bad caps, though (http://www.badcaps.net/forum/index.php?) !
Presume millions out there still working as I've only seen a few for repair/upgrade.
748 was also an extremely successful chipset.
Both exhibit Barry's no-poweroff feature.
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