4.2 Meeting - Here

[ttuuxxx]

try this ttuuxxx

http://xarchiver.xfce.org/

Aitch

You are a Genius!!!!!!!
xarchiver what I've tested so far is, rpm,deb,wal,wsz,xpi,zip,tar.gz,and YESSSSS tar.bz2 extracts very quickly:) under 1 minute for Firefox sources a 16+minute saving:):):):)
Sure it doesn't do .pet or pup because its a non standard but I'm sure that we could get that working
Anyways WhoDo if your reading this, Please, Please add this tiny application in the next puppy release, if not to replace XArchive then to just supplement it, It also would be good if we had it recognize mimes for tar.bz2,rpm,wal,xpi since XArchive has no clue what to do with them by default,
I have included at the bottom 2 version, one with doc and locales included and one with no doc's and no locales, just in English, Probably the one to use if WhoDo decides to included it in the next puppy release. But first we would have to work on the mime types
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[ttuuxxx]

I've used 7Zip in windows, but the default 7zip for linux is command line, I'm looking for a gui, Plus i found a Gui for 7zip but it needed Python stuff, so thats still a no go.

What about Peazip? I seem to remember it being a bit larger, but it's my archiver of choice when I have to work on Windows machines.

Hi SirDuncan earlier I posted that Peazip works but its way too large, like 6.2MB pet, I was looking for something that worked and was small. Anyways how ya been? I haven't seen you posting much lately on here? Same with alienjeff? Hope all is well
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[SirDuncan]

Hi SirDuncan earlier I posted that Peazip works but its way too large, like 6.2MB pet, I was looking for something that worked and was small.

also Peazip is very fast also, not as fast as command line, but under a minute. Too bad its so large

Oops, I guess I must have zoned out before the end of your post. My faux pas.

Anyways how ya been? I haven't seen you posting much lately on here? Same with alienjeff? Hope all is well

Oh, I'm fine. I'm just not a very prolific poster. Normally, by the time I have decided what I want to say, someone else has already said it.

AJ has been posting to his blog and website a lot, so I wouldn't worry about him too much.

[Aitch]

You are a Genius!!!!!!!

aw shucks, ttuuxxx

Glad you like it - seems modifiable, too, eh?

One of my appeals is full internationalisation, so glad to see/promote this

Translations:
Xarchiver is already available in a lot of languages, but even more languages are missing from the list. The documentation is only available in English language. So if you are good at translating software to new languages or improving existing translations, feel free to join us on the xfce-i18n mailing list.
Donations:
Do you like Xarchiver? Offer me a pizza, so that I can enjoy it while coding.....

Aitch

[WhoDo]

Anyways WhoDo if your reading this, Please, Please add this tiny application in the next puppy release, if not to replace XArchive then to just supplement it, It also would be good if we had it recognize mimes for tar.bz2,rpm,wal,xpi since XArchive has no clue what to do with them by default,

Downloaded and taken under advisement.

[technosaurus]

@ WhoDo
This is becoming a bear of a thread - Is there a chance you could start a new one with your summary of what's in, what's out & what's tentative/proposed, possibly with links to said packages in the initial post so that we could help with testing.

~T

[WhoDo]

- Is there a chance you could start a new one with your summary of what's in, what's out & what's tentative/proposed, possibly with links to said packages in the initial post so that we could help with testing.

Done. See here for Puppy 4.2 Deep Thought development thread under Projects.

[technosaurus]

Thanks Whodo - I filtered through the threads & added most of the high points to the Deep Thought wikki as well if they weren't already there

[aragon]

i think we will have pmusic and gxine in 4.2 (right?).

if so, i would suggest that we split the actual defaultmediaplayer in

defaultaudioplayer => pmusic
defaultmediaplayer => gxine

and link all audio-mimetypes that were definitely supported by pmusic with defaultaudioplyer and leave all other with defaultmediaplayer.

to simply play some mp3s or oggs, we don't have to start gxine.

also we could add defaultaudioplayer to the right-click-menu in rox.

cheers
aragon

[ttuuxxx]

i think we will have pmusic and gxine in 4.2 (right?).

if so, i would suggest that we split the actual defaultmediaplayer in

defaultaudioplayer => pmusic
defaultmediaplayer => gxine

and link all audio-mimetypes that were definitely supported by pmusic with defaultaudioplyer and leave all other with defaultmediaplayer.

to simply play some mp3s or oggs, we don't have to start gxine.

also we could add defaultaudioplayer to the right-click-menu in rox.

cheers
aragon

I agree with you 100% the only thing that I would like to see is that Pmusic gets a equalizer, I did talk to him about it and basically we would have to figure out some sort of code for it. I like pmusic a lot, but I'm still resorting back to other media players to play my cd's / mp3's, alsa does have a eq plugin at sourceforge but it doesn't compile well with puppy, also xmms has a eq plugin, that could work if we had a developer look at the source. Natural sound is nice but a bit of treble and bass boost is always nicer:)
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[Aitch]

Natural sound is nice but a bit of treble and bass boost is always nicer

Try this - 31 band eq, much better than treble/bass only

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfile ... e_id=50587

http://rteq.sourceforge.net/

As of 2007-06-06 21:53, this project is no longer under active development.

others

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/apps/sound/mixers/

You might also like this

http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/disorder/

and how about IR control?

http://www.blackfiveservices.co.uk/irmix.shtml

If you want proaudio tools, fons adriaensen's Japa [parametric/analyser] etc here

http://www.kokkinizita.net/linuxaudio/index.html

>From the README:

JAPA is a 'perceptual' or 'psychoacoustic' audio spectrum
analyser. This means that the filters that are used to
analyse the spectrum have bandwidths that are neither
constant (as in JAAA), nor proportional to the center
frequency (as in a 1/3 octave band analyser), but tuned
to human perception. With the default settings, JAPA uses
a filter set that closely follows the Bark scale.

Happy Xmas, ttuuxxx

Aitch

[ttuuxxx]

Man thats a lot of links, I'll try each of them and see what happens, thanks for that
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[HairyWill]

also we could add defaultaudioplayer to the right-click-menu in rox.

I will add a right click option for pmusic to my collection of right click handlers. None of the other filetypes currently have a right-click option that is to explicitly launch "default player/editor/viewer" so I am not sure there should be one for audio.

[guilt]

Can we club the libraries/components/plugins from Firefox/Thunderbird/Seamonkey together so we can save some space?

[ttuuxxx]

Hi WhoDo If you go to this thread
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 561#262561
I'll be supporting Xarchiver, So far its been updated at that thread with some mime types and also add Sir Duncan's unrar and 7zip extensions with the Mime's included with those you can make and extract 7zip and Rar files below is an image of the types you can make
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[WhoDo]

Hi WhoDo If you go to this thread
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 561#262561
I'll be supporting Xarchiver, So far its been updated at that thread with some mime types and also add Sir Duncan's unrar and 7zip extensions with the Mime's included with those you can make and extract 7zip and Rar files below is an image of the types you can make

Yep. I too wanted an archive manager that didn't take a lifetime to open some file types. I'll keep my eye on your progress throughout the 4.2 development cycle to be sure I've got the latest inclusions.

Cheers

[ttuuxxx]

is Gxine still buggy in 4.12 or 4.2, I'm using 4.1 at the present and it crashes really easy compared to 4.0 was there an upgrade or shall I say downgrade?
Here's an example that I posted in the Living water thread
If you leave a space at the end of a url stream by accident, it freezes then you have to kill it, but it stays running so then you have to run Pprocess and manually kill it
try this link and include a space at the end of the url before hitting enter for 4.12 users.

rtsp://rmlive.bbc.co.uk/bbc-rbs/rmlive/ev7/live24/radio1/live/r1_dsat_g2.ra

also I had it crash when trying to resize a movie video, and also it wouldn't play some normal formats, Gxine usually has some small issues but these are new ones for me, also maybe it just needs to be recompiled, I can't do it because I'm running live, When I compile live 90% of the apps work, but GXxine is one that I doesn't.
Any takers? I'll test anything released.
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[Max Headroom]

I haven't Scene any ETA announced on the Net yet...
And sum o' the New Goodies Sound Yum
Altho I've Always been of the Opinion that Barrys' once stated 6 - 8 Week Release Cycle seemed Rushed / Hectic & that Doubling it would have been Prudent, so anyway We got Spoilt! Also if I might make a Request 2 include an Old Wind0'$ Favorite EMule which is Available as amule-2.1.3.tar.gz or @ least as a pet Package since my Compiling Skills 'R' Wanting

[amigo]

"club the libraries/components/plugins from Firefox/Thunderbird/Seamonkey together" I tried doing this a couple of years ago, but it is really a wasted effort. The fact that you can't do this is the best good reason for simply having seamonkey as the default. The whole suite installs only slightly larger than any one of its' components. In other words, installing firefox, thunderbird and nvu, for example will cost three times as much space as installing seamonkey. While what you suggest is possible to small degree, it would take a very long time and a good deal of mozilla expertise to perfect such an installation.

[ttuuxxx]

"club the libraries/components/plugins from Firefox/Thunderbird/Seamonkey together" I tried doing this a couple of years ago, but it is really a wasted effort. The fact that you can't do this is the best good reason for simply having seamonkey as the default. The whole suite installs only slightly larger than any one of its' components. In other words, installing firefox, thunderbird and nvu, for example will cost three times as much space as installing seamonkey. While what you suggest is possible to small degree, it would take a very long time and a good deal of mozilla expertise to perfect such an installation.

Hi amigo, yes by some degree your right if you use Thunderbird and nvu, But lets not forget the difference between your 2 choices, they are light-years ahead of Seamonkeys suite, Thats like comparing siag office and openoffice and saying they are equal. A true comparison would be mozilla suite at 10.5MB pet, well the last suite barry did was 10mb and that is 3 updates behind and then he did the beta2 and thats at 11mb so I went half way:) If you install it with the default installer its 14mb for the latest series 1.14
Seamonkey Suite->>10.5MB give or take
Firefox 3.0.5 >> 8.5MB <-- I just compiled it that small
+Xinha plugin wysiwyg 325kb https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1449
+Simple Mail 199kb https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5593
total 9.024MB
a savings of 1.476MB or 1.5MB not bad
And that suite is just as good as the Seamonkey Suite and looks way better to the eye.
But lets not forget the issues at hand, there is a reason why Seamonkey hasn't been updated, Its not playing nice with puppy, I've been trying to compile it for days now, even Firefox has issues, but less issues than Seamonkey, I would ask you to lend a hand but your probably using Series 3.0 or a different Slackware model?
I haven't given up on Seamonkey, I spent around 6hrs today trying to get it to work, even with Barry's last configs for it.
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