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How to install Enhanced Machine Controller?
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karunakaran

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PostPosted: Mon 22 Dec 2008, 01:58    Post subject:  How to install Enhanced Machine Controller?  

How to install EMC2 in puppylinux 4.1? (tar)
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amigo

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PostPosted: Mon 22 Dec 2008, 14:42    Post subject:  

Saerch the forum for 'rtos' -I think someone has gotten this going already.
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big_bass

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PostPosted: Mon 22 Dec 2008, 21:11    Post subject: Re: EMC
Subject description: Enhanced Machine Controller
 

karunakaran wrote:
How to install EMC2 in puppylinux 4.1? (tar)


ubuntu has an emc
http://www.linuxcnc.org/
for CNC

kind of funny I built a proto type controller in 1999 using qbasic
to control steppers
I should try again using linux (mother boards are unforgiving these days )
it was alot of work building the boards and sorting out the the pin outs
and pecking away at the the program
I am an electronics tech ,programing is trial and error for me
building the boards and power supplies is just math
alot easier

alot has changed since then

keep me posted on your progress

ahh along time ago there was a puppy called cool cnc
but thats very dated but the script had a lot of good tips


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Aitch


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PostPosted: Tue 23 Dec 2008, 00:24    Post subject:  

Here's an old EMC/Puppy docuwiki

http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?CoolCnc.0.5

also

http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Emc_Puppy

and latest searchable knowledgebase

http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?EmcKnowledgeBase

probably adaptable?

Also, in case, How to install '.tar' files

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=35640&sid=9ba758b514c10258238a4632da6b4052

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Dec 2008, 20:50    Post subject:  

Quote:
kind of funny I built a proto type controller in 1999 using qbasic
to control steppers
I should try again using linux (mother boards are unforgiving these days )
it was alot of work building the boards and sorting out the the pin outs
and pecking away at the the program
I am an electronics tech ,programing is trial and error for me
building the boards and power supplies is just math
alot easier


Check out http://www.cnczone.com/ for all the info and links you would ever want on building your own CNC machine and stepper drivers, I did and use it all the time.

EMC has come a long way, but must have the real time kernel patch to run, so even if you get it to install, it will NOT run under a stock Puppy.

As much as I hate saying it, use the Ubuntu version they have since you should not be running anything else at the same time you are running EMC for safety reasons. (Ever see a mill stutter at 100 ipm (or more) Not pretty!)

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karunakaran

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PostPosted: Thu 25 Dec 2008, 09:52    Post subject:  

In Ubuntu EMC runs perfectly. However I would like to port EMC to Puppylinux since it is a very small suite. EMC has a site where this procedure is listed.

Is there any specific way in Puppylinux to install additional packages in tar? If there is one, I would like that to be posted.

I have searched for CoolCNC download but no use; that URL does not have a link.
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Aitch


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PostPosted: Thu 25 Dec 2008, 11:04    Post subject:  

Get Peazip here

http://puppylover.netsons.org/dokupuppy/programs:archiver

or try Xarchiver here - ttuuxxx liked it & made a .pet

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=259705&sid=a35d8e83c7ec01aa1fde0da5ab6a8c45

muggins wrote:
does anyone know if this is the same as coolcnc, which is based on puppy?

they have a forum at:

http://cooltool.he.fdread.org/cncforum/index.php

and have links to isos at:


http://web23.he.fdread.org/cncforum/coolcnc/coolcnc-1-0-1.iso

http://cooltool.he.fdread.org/cncforum/coolcnc/coolcncb05.iso


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karunakaran

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Dec 2008, 03:47    Post subject:  

Following the links given ended with 'Sorry, but this board is currently unavailable. Please try again later.'

This was the story for the past 5 months.
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Aitch


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Dec 2008, 11:50    Post subject:  

Which link, specifically?

I thought you were after the ISO?

I know the cncforum is dead

I thought I tested them all before posting

re-tested and download works,

Note: this is 2005 file

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karunakaran

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PostPosted: Sat 27 Dec 2008, 01:40    Post subject:  

Thank you Gentleman!

Following this link http://cooltool.he.fdread.org/cncforum/coolcnc/coolcncb05.iso
I have downloaded the ISO. I will test and post the result.
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karunakaran

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PostPosted: Mon 29 Dec 2008, 07:55    Post subject:  

I have installed and COOL CNC runs very cool! Thanks.
Since it is an old release, neither PUPPY nor EMC is a current version.

Now I have come to the first message in the thread. That is 'How to install
EMC in PuppyLinux 4.1?'

Alternatively my question will be 'How to install tar packages in puppylinux?'
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lwill


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PostPosted: Mon 29 Dec 2008, 23:56    Post subject:  

You do not "install" tar packages. They are source code that must be compiled and then installed. See
http://www.puppylinux.com/development/compileapps.htm

But as I stated above, it will not run on a stock puppy installed kernel. The kernel must be patched with the real time extentions. See
http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/html//install_installing_emc2.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTLinux

This requires patching and building your own custom kernel which can be very difficult for a beginner. Search around the forum on compiling kernel and you will see that even small changes can stump the best of us.
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rippersoftware

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PostPosted: Fri 02 Jan 2009, 17:35    Post subject:  

The "installation" of EMC2 must be done with a RTAI enabled kernel. This requires patching the kernel and compiling so that you end up with real-time Linux.

The guy that created CoolCNC from puppy 1.05 or 1.07 has left a script behind that is a good read to see how the patching and building actually gets along. You'll find the script at:
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?CoolCnc.0.5

and another at:
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Emc_Puppy

You can take this script and update it to the more recent release packages and give it a try. However, nothing destroys a computer and its' OS like given it a try without understanding what is being done. Do this build at your own risk.

If you want to use Eeeewbuntu 8.04 EMC distro on LiveCD, that will work and you can evaluate it and then install if you want. Personally, I don't like Eeeewbuntu as it is too brain-dead and there is no wireless support from the looks of the installed system.
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bonny

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PostPosted: Fri 07 May 2010, 12:17    Post subject:  

Is there some new progress with RTAI and EMC?!?

I looking for liveCD with EMC2 & Puppy

I had working machine with Ubuntu/EMC but has another (slower) computer and ubuntu isn't happy with it. But Puppy works nice (no EMC Confused )

Slavko
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Andrey_L

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PostPosted: Sun 16 May 2010, 16:29    Post subject:  

Misters! For me it is necessary ISO file Puppy with last version EMC2.
Variants of obtaining ISO file are comprehensible all:purchase, I may receive in gift,the link to the Internet resource.
I shall be very grateful to all answered.
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