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Alienx

Joined: 06 May 2005 Posts: 141 Location: Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
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Posted: Wed 19 Oct 2005, 17:13 Post subject:
How can I add files and folders to a multissession cd ? |
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let's say that i have a 50 mb Puppy multisession cd (or any other multissessssion cd)
how can I manually add files and folders to root cd ?
can I modify or delete a file already on cd like syslinux.conf or image.gz ?
how to do it ?
_________________ Sorry, broken english above 
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BarryK
Puppy Master

Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 8529 Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Posted: Wed 19 Oct 2005, 19:45 Post subject:
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For DVD its easy to add files/folders to the DVD, see this answered by
Ted Dog in other threads in multisession section.
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Mr Doolie
Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 143
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Posted: Sun 13 Nov 2005, 00:49 Post subject:
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Super Easy! I just did it. I assume you have a Winblows system.
Here's what I did. YMMV
1) Looked at the CD in Winblows. There were the puppy files and some folders. Mine were named 2005-11-12-20-14 and 2005-11-12-20-35
Guessing those were the times and dates of the saves (8:14 and 8:35 on Nov/12). Well, yes that's exactly when I was playing with Puppy.
2) Created a folder called 2005-11-12-21-00 on my hard drive
3) Copied some files into it.
4) Used good old Nero to "Continue Multisession" and burned the folder to the CD.
It Worked! The files were there when I booted Puppy!
As for doing it in Linux I dunno but assume it would work the same way. Check the folder names and burn another folder with "Continue Multisession"?
Next test: Delete some of those files and see if Puppy will update the CD and continue to work OK. Don't know why he wouldn't.
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Mr Doolie
Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 143
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Posted: Sun 13 Nov 2005, 01:36 Post subject:
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Well, THAT didn't work!
When I exited Pup he couldn't update the CD and farkled the whole thing.
So...the anwers seems to be "Kinda". You can add with Nero but better close the CD because Puppy can't update it any more.
Shoot! I thought I was being clever for once.
Sorry
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or maybe the answer is (wild guess have not tried it)
1) Use Nero to add another session.
2) See if Puppy boots and the new files are there.
This seems to work fine up to here.
3) Toss the CDR and let Puppy create a brand new one with all the new stuff on it. Barry, Puppy will do that, right? I mean if he sees a brand new clean CDR in the drive he'll write a new clean Puppy system with all the current stuff on it?
Or....Keep Puppy on a CDRW and just wipe it clean between steps 2 and 3. OTOH blank CDRs are a whole 20 cents or something. Big Flying Whoop! Make a new clean one.
This is just a guess and has not been tested.
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hartsantler
Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 1
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Posted: Thu 01 Dec 2005, 13:01 Post subject:
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I tried the quoted steps, and it did not work for me using 1.06, i'm going to revert to 1.04 and give that a go:
Quote: | 1) Use Nero to add another session.
2) See if Puppy boots and the new files are there.
This seems to work fine up to here.
3) Toss the CDR and let Puppy create a brand new one with all the new stuff on it. Barry, Puppy will do that, right? I mean if he sees a brand new clean CDR in the drive he'll write a new clean Puppy system with all the current stuff on it? |
it would be nice if it did because this is the only way i can think of to customize puppy from windows.
however, it did work once, which is strange, i rebooted several times and finnally (after pressing the scroll-lock key alot) it finnaly saved a session, but never again. also just plain old vanilla 1.06 does not save for me either.
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Mr Doolie
Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 143
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Posted: Thu 01 Dec 2005, 20:13 Post subject:
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What didn't work? Step 3 and after or steps 1 and 2?
Remember to NOT close the disk awhen doing the Nero write.
I dunno. 1 and 2 worked for me. The Win added files were there.
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Ted Dog

Joined: 13 Sep 2005 Posts: 4013 Location: Heart of Texas
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Posted: Thu 01 Dec 2005, 22:57 Post subject:
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As Barry says DVD-R works better, true! But I have a stack of DVD+R which save faster. I have been able to use NERO but it is not the default method to leave the disc open.
How to use a DVD+R with Barry save back to DVD.
The primary problem is the reporting of sessions by DVD+R. Puppy sees it as only one track for the save and tries to burn new disc.
Work around burn a second track prior to using Save to DVD. It can be anything. I will burn a usr_devx.fs to the root of the DVD like this
Code: | growisofs -D -R -J -M /dev/dvd /root/my-documents/usr_devx.fs |
CD+R has the same issue but the commands are complex.
As someone pointed out earlier use Nero to burn another session, remember to continue to keep the disk open.
It is useful to have a additonal tools, and it solves the extra track (session) needed by the puppy scripts.
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Mr Doolie
Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 143
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Posted: Fri 02 Dec 2005, 03:23 Post subject:
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Sorry, I should have been clearer. I did this with a CD-R. Not a DVD.
Blank DVDs (for me anyway) are too $$$ to play around with.
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Flash
Official Dog Handler

Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 12825 Location: Arizona USA
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Posted: Fri 02 Dec 2005, 23:47 Post subject:
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Mr. Doolie, have you considered putting multisession Puppy on a DVD+/-RW?
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Posted: Sun 04 Dec 2005, 02:00 Post subject:
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Doolie here.
Good thought. The when it gets full (or messed) I just wipe it clean and rewrite. But those things are about $10 each aren't they? Or am I thinkig of DVD-RAMS?
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Ted Dog

Joined: 13 Sep 2005 Posts: 4013 Location: Heart of Texas
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Posted: Mon 05 Dec 2005, 01:43 Post subject:
DVD-RAM's are dropping to about 7dollars |
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I bought a three pk of DVD-RAMs and found that will not work on anything I own. Try DVD-RW over DVD+RW they are readable in more drives, prices are dropping as well they are less than 5 dollars each with large pks very much less than that.
I have 3 full sized Philips DVD+RW that I have been using for 2 years. My favorites are the mini-DVDs; DVD-RW by Memorix (had a bad batch once) so I would not highly recommend, but when they work, they work very well.
Even cheaper are plain DVD-R and the least problematic in puppy.
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Flash
Official Dog Handler

Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 12825 Location: Arizona USA
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Posted: Mon 05 Dec 2005, 02:29 Post subject:
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Anonymous wrote: | Doolie here.
Good thought. The when it gets full (or messed) I just wipe it clean and rewrite. But those things [DVD+/-RW] are about $10 each aren't they? Or am I thinkig of DVD-RAMS? | Actually, Panasonic DVD-RAM single disks sell for $3 at my local Fry's Electronics, and DVD+RW for much less. I bought a 25-pack of no-name DVD+RW for $10 about 6 months ago. They work.
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