Puppy 4.2 Alpha3 Seamonkey Bugs & Fixes

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#21 Post by HairyWill »

no wireless networking for me :(

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# modprobe ipw2200
WARNING: Error inserting ieee80211_crypt (/lib/modules/2.6.25.16/kernel/net/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt.ko): Invalid module format
WARNING: Error inserting ieee80211 (/lib/modules/2.6.25.16/kernel/net/ieee80211/ieee80211.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
FATAL: Error inserting ipw2200 (/lib/modules/2.6.25.16/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
I will report further when I've had more sleep.
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#22 Post by WhoDo »

pa_mcclamrock wrote:Now the bad news:

Many icons for nonexistent drives appear on the desktop.
My bad. :oops: Just a minor oversight is all. I neglected to clean out the drive assignments when I copied the working PuppyPin into the build tree. Opening /root/Choices/ROX-filer/PuppyPin with a text editor and deleting the lines with the non-existant drives should solve the problem. Fixed for beta release.
pa_mcclamrock wrote:Tk gives an error message--very strange, since rarsa's Tk 8.5.6 .PET didn't give me the same message on Puppy 4.1.1:

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This probably means that tk wasn't installed properly.
And yet ... a Tk window appears, and you can put both Tk and Ttk widgets into it just as if the error message hadn't appeared!
I tested the installed Tcl/Tk apps and they worked fine so I guess the problem is maybe in what you are trying to do with the package? I have no idea about that one, so you should PM rarsa to have a look at it for both of us!
pa_mcclamrock wrote:XArchive still shows a bizarre list of "needed programs not found, ignored" when you open it--not a very user-friendly impression, to say the least.
Xarchive is going as soon as we get the references changed in the scripts that call it. Xarchiver will be the default for beta.
pa_mcclamrock wrote:I tried to find the GTK2 Stardust theme in the "Chtheme GTK Theme Chooser"--I couldn't find it! Not good! I do not think the new theme with dark trapezoids for scrollbars is an improvement. Plus, the new look will repel people who don't like orange, such as my wife. I like orange OK, but not quite that much of it!
A matter of taste but point taken. There should have been a whole host of Crystal Gtk2 themes there to please any palate. Did you not see or try those?
pa_mcclamrock wrote:Still to do: check sound, printing, integration with a copy of my pup_save file from Puppy 4.1.1, and more--but not tonight!
Back up your pup_save first! Sound should be fine although I can't test it because there isn't a working driver for my development machine. Printing could be seriously problematic. We'll see. I have the new CUPS installed but attempting to manage printers returns a 404 not found error.

Hope you had a good night's sleep.
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#23 Post by ttuuxxx »

I'll look into the new HomeBank 4.0.2 released
jan 31st, 2009.
ttuuxxx
ok its compiled and working, I'll upload it in a few:)
also can we please do something about parsing the /root/.thumbnails at a given point, I've had my PC on for about a week and it has 77MB of thumbnails, that really should be automatically deleted like once every 5-6 hrs or so.
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#24 Post by WhoDo »

Pizzasgood wrote:As others have mentioned, you seem to have included the drive icons from your own system.
Yep. Just an oversight. I neglected to delete them from the PuppyPin after I copied it to rootfs-complete following a fault-fixing session. Fixed now.
Pizzasgood wrote:Also, is the "mount" icon supposed to look faded-out like that?
Yep. It draws from the same icon as the Xevent in that theme. Icon themes are under review, so that will be dealt with summarily.
Pizzasgood wrote:I am in love with the GTK theme. The only thing that doesn't seem consistent is that the arrow-buttons on scrollbars don't light up orange when hovered over. Not a big deal.
....but something that ttuuxxx will be able to correct if you like.
Pizzasgood wrote:What's up with the grub-gfxboot-README.txt and message.pup1 files that are in / ? Doesn't seem like they should be there...
Deliberate. I wanted them to be readily accessible for those who want to try the new graphical grub. If someone could make me a PET package that will put everything where it's supposed to go AND allow the grub-gfxboot package to be used automagically when installing grub then they can go back where they belong.
Pizzasgood wrote:The xorgwizard patch is still missing:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 607#256607
Without that, I have to manually configure the xorg.conf file to get Xorg to start.
My bad. :oops: I'll fix it right now for the next release. I knew I'd forget something ... :(
Pizzasgood wrote:I'm sorry ttuuxxx, but I'm not feeling your IceWM themes (assuming you made them?).
I certainly love the bones and paw that light up. That's very VERY Puppy and a definite attraction. Maybe for the default we need a more generic look in the title bar. I agree about the start button. That needs to be revised just a tad.
Pizzasgood wrote:Nothing against a dedicated icon labeled "Jump to #puppylinux" or "Puppy Chat Room" or something. Just shouldn't be the default action for the chat program itself.

I'm not trying to sound like a broken record. I won't bring it up again, for 4.2 anyway.
It's the right idea ... at least for a hotline to online help. Maybe we can have two different startup parameters - one off the menu (generic) and one off the desktop (help specific).
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#25 Post by ttuuxxx »

WhoDo wrote:
Pizzasgood wrote:I'm sorry ttuuxxx, but I'm not feeling your IceWM themes (assuming you made them?).
I certainly love the bones and paw that light up. That's very VERY Puppy and a definite attraction. Maybe for the default we need a more generic look in the title bar. I agree about the start button. That needs to be revised just a tad.
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Okay Whodo, I'll revisit the titlebar, I'll make it 1 long traditional titlebar with the puppy paw and bones included, instead of the round bubble effect ok? It might take a bit of time, a couple of days, but sure , I like the paws and bones the most also, and can reuse them in a more traditional style of titlebar :)
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#26 Post by Lobster »

I did post on how this html file is the default page (offline) in 4.2
It is great work from Tecnosaurus and should not be forgotten or wasted Hope to see it in the beta.
http://pupweb.org/desktop/

Tecnosaurus what Warren needs is a file called home.htm - can you send it to him and the css?
placed here and the css also placed here

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usr/share/doc/home.htm
It has another advantage over xchat (over 600k for an IRC program?)
Xchat can be replaced with meebo or another online service
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#27 Post by ttuuxxx »

Homebank will take a bit of time to finish, maybe a couple of hours, Its working fine and all, its just the size of it, It has 46 SVG icons, grrrrrr, I have to resize and change the format to PNG. It uses 1.6MB extracted just for icons. When the whole folder, stripped down is 1960kb, so I'll be back with an update.
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#28 Post by WhoDo »

Lobster wrote:I did post on how this html file is the default page (offline) in 4.2
It is great work from Tecnosaurus and should not be forgotten or wasted Hope to see it in the beta.
http://pupweb.org/desktop/
Why wait? Technosaurus supplied a modified home.htm that includes a link to the web desktop and that is IN Puppy 4.2a3 ... I hope.
Lobster wrote:Tecnosaurus what Warren needs is a file called home.htm - can you send it to him and the css?
placed here and the css also placed here

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usr/share/doc/home.htm
Please check that there is a home.htm file in that location with a direct link to the Puppy web desktop. If you want the web desktop to replace the current startup page then you'd need to ensure all the links work. They didn't when I tried it - only one working link - but it's there in Alpha3 anyway.
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#29 Post by HairyWill »

Warren,
If you suspect that there are still file collisions in your unleashed, the following should help

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#!/bin/sh
#find collisions in unleashed tree, will fail on files with a # in their name

#Generate list of files with their root parent directory names cut from the 
#beginning and pasted onto the end escaped with # symbols.
#Piping this through sort should get collisions next to each other in the list
find . | sed 's/\//#/;s/\//#/;s/\(#.*#\)\(.*\)/\2\1/'|sort > filelist

#step through list comparing the front part of each line with the next line
while read B ;do
A1=$(echo $A | sed 's/#\(.*\)//')
B1=$(echo $B | sed 's/#\(.*\)//')
if [ "$A1" = "$B1" -a ! "$A1" = "." ] ;then
  echo $A
  echo $B
  echo
fi
A="$B"
done < filelist
if you run this inside the packages directory of the expanded unleashed tree it should identify any collisions to you. The end of each line will show which packages are involved.
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#30 Post by zigbert »

Much good in this alpha! Seamonkey is beautiful.

Since I haven't heard anything, I guess I don't need to worry about the icon definitions that does not exist in /root/my-applications/bin/ ?

I think you have done a great work with the 16x16 icons !!!! I don't see my hack of fixmenus that improves the text in the menus. I guess you don't intend to use it (and that's ok for me), but the simple fix for getting some space between the icon and text is bullet proof, and I don't see any reason for not using it. It is just to add

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sed -i -e 's/label="/label="  /g' ${ONEDEST} 
at the bootom of the script.

The fix of Pwidgets is under constuction, but it seems that the analog clock issue is more complex than earlier expected. I have scanned the Pwidgets topic and tested different solutions, but none seems to be 100%. I may have to fall back on the simulated mouseclick. Let's see. But remember, this is only a problem when using the analog clock widget. It also is reported that all works with icewm, but I don't really care about that :wink:

Gpicview with slideshow is really big news for Puppy. Very nice. I hoped to find a parameter to start the slideshow automatically. This way it could be called from Pfind which still points to qiv for a slideshow. qiv hasn't been around since Puppy3.

The author of this release must be a fan of solitaires. :D For us that's not, it would be nice with some alternatives. 5 out of 9 games are cards. Maybe a look at the forum topic 'top10 mini games' could give some ideas, or reinstall the missed tcl games from Puppy3 - Bubbles and 'the one MU was hacked on'. I don't remember the name.

GtKam crashes when I'm trying to download from camera. This happens also in Puppy 4.12. I have to return to 3.01 to get my photos???????

I also miss the Stardust gtk theme. The only macish choice and (only) 10kb. :)


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#31 Post by ttuuxxx »

zigbert wrote:Much good in this alpha! Seamonkey is beautiful.

Sigmund
When I compiled SeaMonkey I replaced the default theme icons with icons from the seafox theme and had to use a small portion of the code for the menus, It saved a lot of space that way. :) no overlapping of images.
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#32 Post by Ray MK »

Hi

Getting some very strange behaviour

Pup_save file filling up very quickly with Seamonkey cache files and then when flushed - Puppy memory display still shows as nearly full (red warning)

After closing down and rebooting to Icewm - sticky notes start and cant be closed, so changed to Jwm.
Then blinky, asapm and sticky are no longer in tray but are minimised in top left of screen.

Changed back twice - still not able to close or use said offending items.

So will delete pup_save and start again.

Much muttering and festering.

However - Seamonkey much improved.

Best regards - Ray

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#33 Post by pa_mcclamrock »

WhoDo wrote:
pa_mcclamrock wrote:Tk gives an error message--very strange, since rarsa's Tk 8.5.6 .PET didn't give me the same message on Puppy 4.1.1:

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This probably means that tk wasn't installed properly.
I tested the installed Tcl/Tk apps and they worked fine
The only ones I could find in the menu were a few Tk games that don't appear to use any Ttk widgets.
[ . . . ] so I guess the problem is maybe in what you are trying to do with the package?
No doubt--but what I'm trying to do with the package is pretty essential, "IMHO." For example, without Ttk, you can't conveniently set up a multi-column listbox or a progressbar, and you can't get scrollbars that at least look like the ones in the Opera classic theme or TextMaker, rather than antiquated Motif-like ones. I installed one of my programs (WISH Supernotepad) and tried to run it, but I got an error message about no Ttk.
I have no idea about that one, so you should PM rarsa to have a look at it for both of us!
Will do!
pa_mcclamrock wrote:I tried to find the GTK2 Stardust theme in the "Chtheme GTK Theme Chooser"--I couldn't find it! Not good! I do not think the new theme with dark trapezoids for scrollbars is an improvement. Plus, the new look will repel people who don't like orange, such as my wife. I like orange OK, but not quite that much of it!
A matter of taste but point taken. There should have been a whole host of Crystal Gtk2 themes there to please any palate. Did you not see or try those?[/quote]

In the "GTK+ 2.0 Change Theme" box, the only themes I see (other than the one I've already commented on) are:

Citrus-cut: too much like staring at the sun!

Gradient-grey: not ugly, but a bit monotonous.

Clearlooks and variants thereof: not bad at all, but they look almost exactly like the best of the Ttk themes--I thought GTK+ 2.0 was supposed to look better than Tk/Ttk! :lol: Please don't get rid of them, though; once Ttk is working, I'll be able to make things pretty uniform-looking for those who want them to be, simply by adding a color scheme like, say, "Clearlooks-Quicksilver" to my existing selection of Tk/Ttk color schemes, and making it the default for my "WISH" apps. (Speaking of which, are you still accepting proposed additions to 4.2 Unleashed?)

Default and Raleigh: both ugly and monotonous; these look almost exactly like the worst of the Ttk themes with no color enhancement.

On the bright side, I configured sound with no problem. On the dim side, I clicked the "Multimedia --> sGmixer audio mixer" menu item and nothing happened. Trying to run sgmixer from the command line, I got this error message:

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# sgmixer &

** (process:11775): WARNING **: Can't open /dev/mixer !!! Quiting ...

[1] 11775
[1]   Exit 1                  sgmixer
#
Maybe I won't try printing yet--if you couldn't get it to work, I probably won't be able to either. Now to PM rarsa--onward and upward! Persevere!

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#34 Post by aragon »

zigbert wrote: GtKam crashes when I'm trying to download from camera. This happens also in Puppy 4.12. I have to return to 3.01 to get my photos???????
zigbert,

please look at this post: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=37453

there are
- the latest gtkam
- the latest gphoto2 (cli-tool)
- gphotofs (fuse-driver for libgphoto2)

please test with this apps, if they work for you. if i remember right, we have always had this issues with gtkam. for me, it has always worked, for others always crashed. HairyWill reported, that in his case gtkam does not work but gphoto2 does. gphotofs works for me, it simply mounts my camera.

cheers
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#35 Post by ttuuxxx »

Ok the latest 'HomeBank' is on the first page now, 46 icons I had to change from svg to png, and then I had to rename 46 icons, then I had to make 46 system links, But the end result was
svg=1588kb
png=180kb
The whole package 183kb pet :) 9kb smaller than the older one in repo
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#36 Post by ttuuxxx »

zigbert wrote: GtKam crashes when I'm trying to download from camera. This happens also in Puppy 4.12.
Sigmund
I wondering if WhoDo used the ones I supplied for Gtkam and libgphoto, because they worked on my pc and even included a plugin for gimp the allows gimp to import/acquire images straight from the camera. A very nice feature indeed. :)
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#37 Post by ttuuxxx »

pa_mcclamrock wrote: Clearlooks and variants thereof: not bad at all, but they look almost exactly like the best of the Ttk themes--I thought GTK+ 2.0 was supposed to look better than Tk/Ttk! :lol: Please don't get rid of them, though; David McClamrock
Hey David the clearlooks themes that I provided are default themes for most linux distros,
like Clearlooks-Quicksilver thats 14kb extracted or 1.4kb pet lol its just a simple text file with no images, bit you said 'but they look almost exactly like the best of the Ttk themes' Just you wait until I add some images to the taskbars etc. Then there be no going home. lol
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ps go to /usr/share/themes and have a look at them, even the progress meter is animated, not bad at all for just a text file and no extras.
But i'm glad you like them, I think they look great :) too bad I didn't make them :wink:
ok time to test alpha 3 :)
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homebank-4.0.2-i386.pet

#38 Post by Tom Raft »

Thank you very much for the HomeBank pet, ttuuxxx.

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#39 Post by Flash »

I downloaded 4.2 alpha 3 yesterday, used Burniso2cd in my multisession 4.1.2 to burn it to a DVD+RW, then shut the computer down with the newly burned DVD in the drive. So far, it looks like all the settings and the programs I had installed in 4.1.2 were transferred to the 4.2 multisession DVD except NoScript for SeaMonkey, which I had to reinstall.

The analog clock and the calendar are a welcome addition. I found that I could drag the clock to a new location on the desktop. I wish everything could be dragged around the desktop like icons can.

Some of the icons on the left were a bit crowded when I booted the 4.2 DVD for the first time, and several icons on the right were partially beneath the analog clock. The 'drives' icons in the lower left corner overlapped each other, but were no trouble to separate by dragging apart. Everything stayed where I had dragged it when the multisession DVD was rebooted.

So far, Puppy 4.2 is a real winner!
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stardust gtk-theme

#40 Post by Tom Raft »

Please put the stardust gtk-theme back in. It is a great eyecatcher and because it is so small. Better get rid of one of the clearlooks themes.

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