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WhoDo · Last edited by WhoDo on Sun 08 Feb 2009, 05:00; edited 1 time in total

No offense intended to anyone debating the relative merits of JWM and Icewm BUT this is supposed to be an Alpha3 bugs & fixes thread.

@ttuuxxx - Chill, Jeff, ok? Rolling Eyes

I already responded to Sigmund's post way back when. He wasn't shooting at you, just trying to balance the ledger for the JWM devotees; that's all. Hey I now LIKE the bubbly title bar - it grows on you after a while. It's just probably a little too "different" for a default look is all. Like fine wine and strong cheese, some of your designs are an acquired taste. Cool

@trapster - It may be time to try Icewm again - never is an awful long time. Wink

I had the same bad experience as you with an early Icewm. It wasn't the wm's fault, just the way it was packaged to produce the preferred effect. ttuuxxx's latest minimal version doesn't change any defaults and is easily removed.

Better still, give it a whirl in Alpha4 - especially that Ctrl+Alt+Space feature to get a command line in the task bar, and Ctrl+Alt+Del to get shutdown/reboot options etc. I'm still learning about this amazing little WM. JWM2.0 also raised its standards, and if it was being maintained as rigorously as it deserves, would be right up there too for functionality. Just my $AUD0.02c worth.

@Lobster - don't know what happened to the email, Ed, but I didn't get it. I haven't yet included the modified initrd.gz in Puppy-4.2 because I wanted to get all the packages stable first. If someone who knows would like to PM me with instructions to modify the initrd directly, I'll make the changes in my Unleashed tree for this release. Better be quick though. I'm getting an itchy trigger finger! Razz

@Zigbert - I think we understand each other fairly well. Believe me when I say that you are not the cause of the brouhaha. You can't blame a bright spark for every inferno (very topical given the current situation down here - 35 dead and still counting). Sometimes bad stuff just happens.

Guys, I'm not GOD, a God, God-like or even a demi-god like Barry. All the same I now know just what it feels like to watch my "children" fighting among themselves when they could achieve so much more by cooperating (notice I didn't say "agreeing"). Please, can we just concentrate on making Puppy-4.2 "DeepThought" the best darn standard Puppy release ever? It goes without saying that I love you all regardless of who you are and how you behave but sometimes its really hard, you know? Rolling Eyes

Pizzasgood · Posted: Sun 08 Feb 2009, 04:32 Post subject:

Mmmmm cheese.... I got a gift card for Christmas that I haven't gotten around to using yet. Maybe tomorrow I'll see if I can find a store within walking distance and get me some queso. We're having really nice weather lately, and I could use a good walk.

Lobster

trapster · Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 2119 Location: Maine, USA

WhoDo wrote:

tasmod · Posted: Sun 08 Feb 2009, 09:35 Post subject:

Issue with top Ptray menu still to be resolved. Missing icons in drop down.

I altered the .jwmrc-tray-top for correct location of icons. All was well.

Then I tried the new Ptray. It does not start off with the correct icons in line and if clicked will blank the top bar again and revert to missing icons.

It replaces default .jwmrc-tray-top.

ttuuxxx · Posted: Sun 08 Feb 2009, 10:06 Post subject:

When you close pmusic and its playing a song, it continues to keep playing and when its finished it still doesn't exit, if you check it with pprocess its still active, this needs to be fixed or replaced.
ttuuxxx

Tom Raft · Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Posts: 26

This is a feature of pmusic.

Open pmusic again and stop playing.

Tom

ttuuxxx · Posted: Sun 08 Feb 2009, 11:28 Post subject: Re: Pmusic

pa_mcclamrock · Posted: Sun 08 Feb 2009, 12:03 Post subject:

tasmod · Posted: Sun 08 Feb 2009, 15:16 Post subject:

Took your advice and checked out icewm themes. Quite nice.

However when I switched back to jwm I discovered a bug.

/.etc/windowmanager is not updated to jwm. So after a reboot it starts everytime in icewm.

$CURRENTWM stays as icewm

WhoDo · Posted: Sun 08 Feb 2009, 15:38 Post subject:

tasmod · Posted: Sun 08 Feb 2009, 15:48 Post subject:

Ah, sorry missed that.

Caneri · Joined: 04 Sep 2007 Posts: 1569 Location: Canada

Alpha4 is here

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=38511

Eric

straypup · Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 47

tempestuous-Thank you for the help. Tried to install both listed modules (one at a time) but couldn't get them working (probably my missing something or not following the right procedures (remember I learn by Mistake) D/L again and now have working ndis (bad burn I guess) On line with a3 now. Something tells me you will beat this 8187 problem that seems to hang over ALL versions of linux. Again thanks..guess ndis will continue to serve me as it has since 2.13 when I discovered Puppy