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[WhoDo]

I have just uploaded the fourth and final, final ( ) alpha for Puppy 4.2 Deepthought with Seamonkey and Claws mail. There are still a few issues with this one although it's pretty solid:

Known issues:

1. I have removed the latest CUPS which produces a 404 error when attempting to load the manager on my test machine.
2. There are still only two desktop icon thems - Deepthought and Stardust - until we can get someone to sync the icon names properly. I haven't had time.
3. grub-gfxboot is installed but not configured. Catdude and I are working together to get it configured properly - almost there
4. Blinky starts up but disappears after any jwmconfig change
5. epdfview doesn't work because it is missing CUPS dependencies
6. I broke ROX right clicks by updating to a later version of ROX filer. It only looks for a SendTo directory in /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net when ROX right clicks creates an OpenWith directory - rename and it works fine.
7. I haven't set /usr/share/doc/home.html as the default home page for Seamonkey. It's there and contains the link to the puppy web portal but you'll need to add it manually to test.

On the positive side, I have updated to the most recent ROX filer in the dotpets-4 repository without any other apparent ill effects. New applications include Pwidgets (0.6), load-sfs, dhcpd (4.0.10), dosfstools (3.01), gdmap (0.8.1), geany (0.15), Gftp(2.0.19), gphoto2 (2.4.2), icewm-402-v5, libgphoto2 (2.4.4), libsamplerate (0.1.2), ntfs3g (2009.1.1), pburn (2.2.0), tkspider (1.0.4), vorbis-tools (1.20), wget (1.11.4). No-one can say the background stuff hasn't received equal treatment to the bling! Xarchive is still in because I still didn't have time to alter all of the dependent scripts. I'm not sure if ttuuxxx has done that so I don't know if the mods are in this release. If they are Xarchive will be out.

Coolpup has also submitted a host of back-end updates and deserves special mention for that effort as well as a lot of work done on the wiki to make life easier for yours truly.

Mirrors:
1. http://puppyisos.org/isos/2009-01-to-06/4.2-alpha4/ (user=puppy pwd=linux)
2. http://www.pkagfiles.net/puppy-test/
3. http://www.puppylinux.ca/puppyfiles/test/

If the mirrors don't show the Alpha4 it's probably because the admins haven't had time to move the files to the download area ... try again later.

This release is 95Mb, so there is room for CUPS to go back in when it works. As before, if you don't see this boot screen on first boot then you've got the wrong download!

STOP PRESS: Zigbert, trio and 01micko have worked hard on Pwidgets and version 0.7 is now available for download. I strongly recommend updating to this before testing. It will be in the next release, no question, and it works like a charm.



Enjoy!

[Caneri]

Hi Warren et al,

Ok..ready to go here

http://puppylinux.ca/puppyfiles/test/puppy-4.20alpha4-k2.6.25.16-seamonkey.iso
http://puppylinux.ca/puppyfiles/test/puppy-4.20alpha4-k2.6.25.16-seamonkey.md5.txt

File size is 100354048 bytes

Md5sum is correct.

Eric

EDIT: the puppylinux.ca server will be migrating to a new machine soon. We will try to avoid downtime but hey...you never know..and apologies if things break on .ca. It will be only for a short time and will continue to server files into the future.

[Tom Raft]

I miss the hacked fixmenus script from zigberts DeepThougt theme.

It adds space between icon and text and separates the desription with a - .

The script is part of the jwm_tray package.

Tom

[nic2109]

Eric; have you got problems from different parts of the world again?

I'm d/l ing now and getting 28-30 K/s and it'll take about an hour. My location is in the UK and my ISP is based in Sheffield, Yorkshire if that helps with any trouble-shooting.

Nick

[Caneri]

@nic2109,

Hey..sorry about that...we are working on the migration to a new machine. This may have something to do with the slow speeds..sorry ol' boy.

When we are moved there should be a noticeable improvement.

Eric

PS..anyone else have bad speeds from puppylinux.ca?..er this isn't the thread for that...hmmm

[nic2109]

Thanks - and good luck with the move.

And yes, it is the wrong place - oops!

[Pizzasgood]

There have been complaints about Puppy automatically copying the pup_xxx.sfs file to the drive on bootup. It offers an option to copy or not when you create the pup_save.2fs file, and that part works fine. If you choose to do it, it copies it then and there. If you choose not to, it doesn't. But then when you boot up again, it automatically copies it, so long as Puppy believes the partition with the pup_save.2fs file is a fast partition (it's supposed to filter out things like USB drives, but I'm not sure how well it does).

IMHO, either it should not auto-copy, or it should not offer the choice at shutdown. Offering a choice and then later ignoring it is pretty rude. Worse than not asking at all.

So today I tracked down the code responsible for the auto-copying. It was all in two tidy little chunks that were close together, so removing it was easy. The file to edit is 'init' from the initrd.gz.

In Puppy 4.12 they are lines 948-961 and 975-985. In 4.20a3 and 4.20a4 they are 985-998 and 1012-1022.

I attached a patch. Assuming it is downloaded to the puppy-unleashed/boot/ directory, it would be applied like this:

[nic2109]

We still have the plethora of partition icons on the desktop - most of which are null (warning road-sign).

Not a big problem, but neither is it a fixed one.

[seeker]

[pa_mcclamrock]

Some notes on first trying out Alpha4:

The Clearlooks-Quicksilver GTK2 theme is very good (the new, improved SeaMonkey actually looks beautiful with it!)--but thanks for putting Stardust back in too.

Sgmixer works; sound is great, configured with no problem. I won't say anything about printing except that I didn't try it and, when I see an announcement that it works again at last, I'll try it.

Desktop drive icons: Well, this is an improvement. Only existing drives are shown with actual drive icons, and no nonexistent drives are shown as mounted. Unfortunately, it isn't quite a big enough improvement: eight yellow triangles with exclamation points in them have been substituted for the icons for nonexistent drives! This, I think, would not create a favorable first impression for a new user, especially one who was easily alarmed or repelled. Please try one more time.

The IceWM taskbar is way too cluttered; less than half the total length is available to show what apps are running, and many of the little icons just duplicate the functions of big ones on the desktop. Plus, the taskbar doesn't have the most useful little icon of all, which is "Show Desktop."

Calendar is back in Claws Mail, I see. This is not an improvement. You can see only a tiny bit of the numbers for the hours along the edges; it doesn't have a To Do list; I don't see how to get any view other than a week-at-a-time view with very narrow columns for the several days. By comparison, Osmo 0.2.0 is fairly feeble as personal organizers go, but it does have a To Do (or Task) list, and it gives you a good-sized view of all your notes and appointments for a day with a quick click on the number of the day. The Calendar feature in Claws Mail is embarrassingly bad and should be trashed, "IMHO."

I checked my e-mail with Claws and got the mail, but I also got an error message saying "The Bogofilter plugin couldn't filter a message. The command `bogofilter -T -b` couldn't be run."

When I type text in my Tcl/Tk text/HTML editor (WISH Supernotepad) while running JWM, the titlebar blinks periodically. This doesn't happen while running IceWM.

Gnocl works, but my almost-completed "Remaster Express" doesn't look nearly so good with the default fonts as it does with DejaVu Serif (which I have installed on Puppy 4.1.1). Could you possibly bring yourself to squeeze in the very good-looking DejaVu Serif and DejaVu Sans Mono fonts in addition to DejaVu Sans, which Puppy already has?

Tcl/Tk 8.5.6 now works correctly--almost. I no longer get the "no ttk" error message when I run Tk apps, and most of mine work right. The exceptions are two that use the Tcl "clock" command. Here's the error message I get when I try to run these from the command line. (Should I PM rarsa about this?)

[Béèm]

Is that little tweak in this 4.2?
If not will it be in future releases?

[Flash]

I only just discovered the IceWM option and tried it out. The default color scheme is a bit garish for my taste but that's ok, I'm sure I can change it. Otherwise I'm very impressed by IceWM. SeaMonkey seems to start much faster in IceWM than it does in JWM. Anyone else notice the same thing?

[ttuuxxx]

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Find all 3 streamtuner packages at http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=38590

Also if you want the one with libsamplerate included with streamtuner/Aqualug its 685kb and located at
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=14951

ttuuxxx

GutenPrint is located at (same as 4.2A3)
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/programs/documents/gutenprint-5.2.3-i386-no-ppd.pet

Ghostscript <-- small version
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/alphatesting/ghostscript-8.64-i386.pet

Foomatic filters <-- (same as 4.2A3)
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/alphatesting/foomatic-filters-4.0.0-1.pet

Cups <---small version
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=15049

[ttuuxxx]

hi guys do you really want items removed from the IceWM taskbar and if so which its do you think should be on the chopping block?
on the right side maybe the icewm network and cpuload? Since we have blinky and free memory. You can always see the cpu load via htop
on the left side we have
xterm, default browser, rox, pfind, sound, desktop 1,2
its you, you tell me and I'll remove, and do you want show desktop back?
ttuuxxx

[jcoder24]

On switching to icewm there is a name-less window that loads and can't be closed. This doesn't happen if icewm is started as "startx icewm" as opposed to "startx icewm-session".

Also 4 instances of /usr/share/icewm/startup are running according to ps. It seems as though there is a startup instance for each of freememapplet-tray, xpad, icemtray and parcellite. This can be confirmed by killing each of these processes and running ps.

See image for clarification.


As for xpad, i don't think it should be auto loading by default.

I prefer the modified default icewm theme.

EDIR: The freememapplete_tray is not in the tray.