Puppy 4.2 Alpha4 Seamonkey Bugs & Fixes

[ttuuxxx]

I also liked the older version better where you used to see a thumbnail along the right column in series 3
ttuuxxx

[pa_mcclamrock]

hi guys do you really want items removed from the IceWM taskbar and if so which its do you think should be on the chopping block?
on the right side maybe the icewm network and cpuload? Since we have blinky and free memory. You can always see the cpu load via htop
on the left side we have
xterm, default browser, rox, pfind, sound, desktop 1,2
its you, you tell me and I'll remove, and do you want show desktop back?
ttuuxxx

I'd say at least remove all the little icons that duplicate the functions of big desktop icons, and definitely put "Show Desktop" back. (Me, I have only Start, Show Desktop, one desktop, and the clock; almost 85% of the taskbar shows running apps.)

Pfind should have a big desktop icon, not a little taskbar icon; I've got a big desktop icon for it (courtesy of Mandriva, even though there's no Pfind in Mandriva) if you haven't got one handy. Also, I don't think it's an improvement to have the little yellow sticky-pad thingy pop up automatically.

[HairyWill]

I have reconfigured the load_sfs.pet for 420. It now puts a link to load_sfs in /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/SendTo/.application_x-squashfs-image making it work in Rox right-clicks.

Ok but I'll hang on to this before implementing. Hairywill may patch the later version of Rox filer or I may revert to the earlier version 2.6.1 which uses OpenWith rather than SendTo.

load_sfs sounds interesting
What will happen if someone inadvertently runs it twice on the same sfs?

I don't know about SendTo vs OpenWith. The action open with makes more sense than send to but it is probably better to use rox as unpatched as possible. Who was it that changed it originally, why?

My ipw2200 wireless still will not load.

Has anyone mentioned that ptray is missing icons until you open the configurator and hit apply?

I find the patched version of gxine irritating as it complains about my lack of optical drive and doesn't go to fullscreen. You might consider the updated jwm patch I released today and unpatched gxine.

[Ray MK]

Hi

Menu/internet/icon for Opera10.sfs works (shows) in IceWm

BUT no icon in JWM (at least not when Opera10.sfs is loaded)
Didn't try Opera10.pet

The Opera browser works very well in both window managers.
As does Seamonkey 1.1.14 - very slick in both WM's.

Especially since I'm using a ram challenged laptop
(91mb ram & 1ghz celeron proc.)

I prefer JWM at present because it has a battery indicator in the tray.
Very usefull when using the EeePc 701SD.

However the tray autohide feature seems to be disabled at present.
Tried usual menu/desktop/JWM conf/ but not working.

Again very useful with EeePC - as was the battery low warning
(both audio & visual) in Raffy's Breeezy.

Very nicely done - alerted one in good time before a total battery
failure. Could we include similar in 4.2ce - That would be brilliant.

As always - very best regards - Ray

[ttuuxxx]

Hi

Menu/internet/icon for Opera10.sfs works (shows) in IceWm

BUT no icon in JWM (at least not when Opera10.sfs is loaded)
Didn't try Opera10.pet

The Opera browser works very well in both window managers.
As does Seamonkey 1.1.14 - very slick in both WM's.

Especially since I'm using a ram challenged laptop
(91mb ram & 1ghz celeron proc.)

I prefer JWM at present because it has a battery indicator in the tray.
Very usefull when using the EeePc 701SD.

However the tray autohide feature seems to be disabled at present.
Tried usual menu/desktop/JWM conf/ but not working.

Again very useful with EeePC - as was the battery low warning
(both audio & visual) in Raffy's Breeezy.

Very nicely done - alerted one in good time before a total battery
failure. Could we include similar in 4.2ce - That would be brilliant.

As always - very best regards - Ray

Hey Ray IceWM has a nice battery monitor also but you have to enable it it in the configs, I don't have a laptop that I use to help you out , But others on here have it running and probably could help you set it up.
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

Ok guys what I did was bad, LOL I downloaded the puppy wallpaper setter from series 3, it wouldn't work because its a compiled bin and used gtk1 soooooo, 'Heres the bad part' I made system links to new newer gtk2 libs, just 4 of them and named them gtk1 names and it worked, it sets the backgrounds just fine, If we could get the sources for the puppy wallpaper setter from series 3, we could recompile them to use GTK2 files. Since I didn't add any older gtk1 files. here's a pet of it. we could also make it a bit smaller using system links to system images
ttuuxxx

[Flash]

4.2 alpha4 multisession DVD failed to save session.

This happened to me last night when I shut my 4.2 alpha4 multisession DVD down for the second time. I haven't had time to do more experimenting.

I had switched from JWM to IceWM and used Puppy that way all day. When I chose Power-off computer from the Shutdown menu, the screen instantly went blank and nothing else happened, when it should have asked if I wanted to save the session, etc.. All my configuring was lost, as I had to shut off the power.

This multisession DVD was burned from 4.2 alpha3 using Burniso2cd. The first shutdown, which created a multisession DVD, was done with the newly burned 4.2 alpha4 DVD in the drive, but 4.2 alpha3 running. That shutdown did what it was supposed to do, namely, save the settings from 4.2 alpha3 running in RAM to the first session of the 4.2 alpha4 DVD in the drive. Everything I'd added to 4.2 alpha3 was there as it should have been when the 4.2 alpha4 DVD was next booted.

[Tom Raft]

If I'm right, pwidgets needs the wallpaper setter from mu.

Tom

[HairyWill]

Flash
I confess to having had some shutdown issues with earlier alphas after changing windowmanager. I haven't done enough to tie the problem down properly, it may be nothing to do with the WM switch.

Tom, you are correct
Currently the wallpaper switcher is set to call fixwidgets. TTuuxxx have you tried it with pwidgets running.

[ttuuxxx]

Flash
I confess to having had some shutdown issues with earlier alphas after changing windowmanager. I haven't done enough to tie the problem down properly, it may be nothing to do with the WM switch.

Tom, you are correct
Currently the wallpaper switcher is set to call fixwidgets. TTuuxxx have you tried it with pwidgets running.

Hi HairyWill

The older series 3 runs with those links I made up, Its by no means a fix for a wallpaper preview, we need the original source file for the bin, but it does do one thing, it shows it will work with GTK2, That older wall paper setter had nicer features and worked well, I've been looking around for a replacement wallpaper setter and tried around 30 of them tonight, they all need extra libs etc and would be bloated, I'm afraid if we want a preview, which we should have anyways, guessing what a picture looks like is a bit strange like the current model, that we either have to upgrade the current model, that nathan made or revert back to the older model and recompile it.

As for pwidgets, thats a strange one, when I installed the older wallpaper setter and set a wallpaper, the screen blinked like it does when change a background then the clock came up and nothing else, I'm sure pwidgets would have to have a small modification to use the older wallpaper setter, but its doable because of the clock showing up.
ttuuxxx

[esmourguit]

Bonjour,

About new Rox-Filer. No localization possible : No available languages.
Can't connect with Auto DHCP. Obliged to go through setup static IP. First time since 2 years on the same PC.

Cordialement

[HairyWill]

background setter
Sometime the simplest solutions are the best. The existing background setter requires the full path to defaultimageviewer or any other image viewer that it does not offer to you. If you use the filer browse button and navigate to select the correct program it works fine. It does have a function where it is supposed to offer you a choice of programs that you have. Probably needs a minor bug fix and a bump to 0.5.2. I will do this inside the next couple of days unless someone else picks it up

[aragon]

first testing-result:

- wallpapersetter does not work. to fix change defaulimageviewer to gpicview AND delete /root/.config/wallpaper
- fpm2 is the old version new: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 518#271518
- gadmin-rsync is the old version new: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 518#271518
- ldconfig is missing (and entry /usr/local/lib in /etc/ld.so.conf)
- geany-deskicon is 'wrong' it's not a sticky-app
- show-desktop should be in the lower tray of jwm
- mhwaveedit is not the fixed version. fixed one is here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 518#271518
- mime-type audio_mpeg should be opened with defaultmusicplayer
- on bootup the line where you add your boot-parameters (live-cd) is hard to read (dark blue)
- rox menu-icon is missing
- shouldn't the rxvt scrollbar be at the right side?
- mtpaint-snapshot: better use dejans advanced version: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=38165
- /root/my-applications has to be cleaned up
- do we need pplog?
- do we need gfontsel and xfontsel?
- do we need prename and gfrename?

- a script that cleans up the drive-icons on shutdown would be helpful if you use puppy as a portable os. it would also prevent issues on remastering... I think there is one in this thread

Pmount
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ttuuxxx is not the only, who has problems.
- rox menu-icon is missing. pmount itself uses the same icon to open a mounted drive.
- i can't mount my usb-drive. crash, no console output to specify why.
- i can't umount a usb-thumbdrive i was able to mount. crash, no console output to specify why.

Some scrying on the cause: Rox

@ WhoDo
one question on the feature-freeze: do you accept updated packages of included apps/libs? (e.g mtr is at 0.72 while we actually have 0.75.)

aragon

[MU]

Puppybackgroundsetter should include:
/usr/local/Puppybackground/resource/source.tgz
Extract it.
Edit source/list-source/compile-gtk2 like this:

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gcc -Wall -g list.c -o list `pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0` `pkg-config --libs gtk+-2.0` -lm 
strip list
cp -ax list ../../
rm -f list

Then compile it:
./compile-gtk2

I attach source with the modified compilescript, but without binary, as I'm currently in Newyearspup with more dependencies.
I think that should do it, if not, I can try it on my own in Puppy 4.12.
Mark

[droope]

Could the localizations be added to 4.2?

Here I have connection wizard, the rest of the network setup ing, is still to come.

Remember, that for it to work, you must place the mo file in the locales directory.

[aragon]

one more point in addition to my question

- do we need pplog?

my new question is:

do we need pplog or didwiki?

they both need a server to run, one is working atm (didiwiki) one not (pplog). i don't know why they are actually in, i know there was a discussion i don't find atm. running a server to make local notes seems a bit 'strange' to me. if one want's to run it on a webserver, ok.

if we want a webbased notebook to work locally, we could also use http://www.tiddlywiki.com/ which does not need a server to run.

aragon

[MU]

the old wallpapersetter uses this script to set the wallpaper:
/usr/local/Puppybackground/resource/roxrestart.sh

You could replace it with custom things.
There happen 2 things:

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muppysetbg /root/Choices/ROX-background.jpg

Sets the wallpaper (/root/Choices/ROX-background.jpg) to the ROOT-window (behind the rox-background, used by conky).
You also could run here "qiv" (puppy3), "xli"(Puppy2), wmsetbg (windowmaker), fbsetbg (fluxbox) or others.

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 setrox2backdrop /root/Choices/ROX-background.jpg

This sets the background for rox.
Early versions restarted Rox.
Newer versions used setrox2backdrop, a SOAP script as used in Nathans Wallpapersetter:

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#!/bin/sh
#requires $1=path-to/image-name
#and it must be already stretched to fill the screen.

rox --RPC << EOF
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<env:Envelope xmlns:env="http://www.w3.org/2001/12/soap-envelope">
 <env:Body xmlns="http://rox.sourceforge.net/SOAP/ROX-Filer">
  <SetBackdrop>
   <Filename>$1</Filename>
   <Style>Stretch</Style>
  </SetBackdrop>
 </env:Body>
</env:Envelope>

EOF

Mark

[ttuuxxx]

aragon my CD also wouldn't open, but with that older script I posted, it unlocked the CD tray. You might want to use that for your usb stick for the time being. but remember you have to go to usr/sbin/pmount to use it.
So Strange its like the desktop is fastforward pmount.

Mark I tried your fix and I had tons of errors, probably better if you have a look at it. I'll try again tomorrow, its late tonight.
ttuuxxx

[Terryphi]

ok I just compiled cups and add a few things, its the full version, but its a start, I'll reduce / modify it as time goes on.
I tested on my wifes pc and it worked.
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/ ... 386-v1.pet
ttuuxxx

Ps I could use a few dedicated testers on this cups project, It doesn't bother me if I have to repackage it 20 times
ttuuxxx

to start cups click on
menu/System/Manage Printing

It doesn't work for me. I can add and manage a printer but no output is sent to the printer. I have an Apollo-P1200 printer and the problem seems to be with foomatic-rip or filters. Are there missing files or incorrect symlinks in Puppy? The printer works perfectly with Gray's Boxpup 412 which uses an earlier version of CUPS but I don't know if he tweaked Puppy to make it work. I have spent ages studying the file structure but found no answer.

[MU]

Mark I tried your fix and I had tons of errors, probably better if you have a look at it. I'll try again tomorrow, its late tonight.
ttuuxxx

No, just warnings, they can be ignored.
If you get errors, no new "list" would be compiled.
Have a good sleep!
Mark