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#21 Post by ttuuxxx »

WhoDO you did it again, you left out the filemanager mini-icon :) here's a pic, it shows where its actually linked to, probably where the problems starts from.
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#22 Post by ttuuxxx »

Add the latest mtpaint plus the new snapshot with adjustable delay timer.
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#23 Post by Lobster »

It's important to remember that 4.2 DeepThought is NOT a Community Edition (CE); it's a standard edition the same (hopefully) as Barry would produce himself.
Exactly.
From what I have experienced of the Beta and what Warren is saying, we will have

Puppy Standard (New Hardware) - Warren + team
Puppy Standard (Older Hardware) - Warren + team
Puppy Standard Enhanced - Warren
and possibly very soon after release a Barebones from Wolfpup

I see no reason why we could not have four official versions
Previously we had a 3 version release (3 different browsers) from Barry

I played with the Beta for a couple of hours last night - throwing it about quite a lot. Found it stable.
The spread of games in the beta is much better. Liked the checkers game - got thrashed. :cry: Look forward to having the standard icons (which I prefer) in the next release. There was talk of adding sound to X-soldier by accessing the C code but no one up for this? Hairy Will is on 'compassionate leave' after family neglect - anyone else up to C coding?

Coolpup, guys, we might consider a Press Release
http://www.puppylinux.org/wiki/archives ... ease-notes
on the wiki for Beta/Release candidates for places such as:
http://www.linuxleak.com/

Ttuuxxx has done amazing and tireless work for those following this thread.

Well done guys. Looking good. :D
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#24 Post by 01micko »

ttuuxxx wrote:Thanks for the Seamonkey comments Cthisbear, It tooka couple of weeks to figure-out how to get Seamonkey compiled/running right. Glad Its working the way it should.

Hey WhoDo ummmmmm found something, I switched to icewm, installed filezilla, Gimphoto and well When I went back to root, I could see that my applications was lit up, so I opened it and there sat a new 25MB folder called 'bin'. So I guess thats the first new 25MB bug, lol
here's a pic of what was in. /root/my-applications/bin
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ttuuxxx, I'm in 4.1.2 with ptray fully installed and my ~/myapplications/bin is 25M also. I don't think zigbert would have made this without balancing it out somewhere, you know his ideas on bloat :wink:

BTW, in 4.2beta my ~/myapplications/bin dir is 19M, oh and there are icons missing...

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Beta bugs:

1.)
When closing a side-tray (add widget/icon), the old tray (without close button) is still there. The reason is because side-tray code is still in /root/.jwmrc-tray. It should have been removed.

2.)
The Stardust gtk-theme is still the old one. You'll find it on the 'Stardust recourses' page.

3.)
The menuicon of Figaros password manager and Gxine is too wide.

4.)
Desktop icon 'Install' is a symlink and I think the icon is wrong. It should have been pointing to pet48.png.

5.)
The Icon_switcher does not keep the unique menu icons when changing icon theme. It auto-generates 24x24 icons out of the 48x48 icon theme. Like this it overwrites existing menu icons. I guess Barry made this to save space (the 24x24 icons didn't have to be in the iso).
Warren has to make a choice if he will support unique menu icons.

6.)
Yaf-splash welcome message shows up before widgets are loaded.

7.)
The fantastic pdf-printer is not in my printer list.

8.)
/etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc misses info to NOT show window-decoration for xli and xpad.
<Group>
<Class>xli</Class>
<Name>xli</Name>
<Option>noborder</Option>
<Option>notitle</Option>
<Option>sticky</Option>
<Option>nolist</Option>
<!-- Option>layer:2</Option -->
</Group>
9.)
The trash and lock icon has a bit unlogical placement on the desktop.
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10.)
I couldn't install my printer because the lack of username/password
Image

11.)
The gxine doesn't work when streaming internet radios.
Here's Puppy 4.2:
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and here is Puppy 4.12
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12.)
Yahtzee doesn't write highscore
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13.)
fixmenus script fails to split name and description for
- Figaros password manager
- Rubix cube
- Manage printing
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#26 Post by zigbert »

~/myapplications/bin contains only hardlinks generated by the fixmenus script.
Since this directory is used to drag programs/icons to desktop, symlinks is not the best chioce. The icons would then have (the ugly) symlink-arrow.

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zigbert wrote:~/myapplications/bin contains only hardlinks generated by the fixmenus script.
Since this directory is used to drag programs/icons to desktop, symlinks is not the best chioce. The icons would then have (the ugly) symlink-arrow.
Ok so its suppose to be like that, sorry I didn't have any idea, its all new to me. I was hoping it was a 10MB compressed mistake :) would of made some nice room in the distro :) oh well

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zigbert wrote:~/myapplications/bin contains only hardlinks generated by the fixmenus script.
Since this directory is used to drag programs/icons to desktop, symlinks is not the best chioce. The icons would then have (the ugly) symlink-arrow.
In building these hard links there is an error (x2) unable to hard link to directory, so there is something in there that is being seen as a directory and the hard links are not created. :?

BTW - Thanks for the great report on the bugs. I'll go through them in detail before uploading Beta2/RC1. 8)
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ttuuxxx wrote:WhoDO you did it again, you left out the filemanager mini-icon :) here's a pic, it shows where its actually linked to, probably where the problems starts from.
Now that's really WEIRD because I check back over my Unleashed packages and rootfs-complete directories and what I have there in both places is the actual icon, not a link. Maybe .... I dunno. Just put it back and it will be fixed for the next release. *sheesh* :o
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ttuuxxx wrote:Add the latest mtpaint plus the new snapshot with adjustable delay timer.
I'd love to but it needs serious pruning first. As I said in the 'Known Issues' I had to leave it out because it contains 3Mb of documentation alone. Who knows what else could be pared from the package to get it down to the size of 3.29 (or less) :?:
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WhoDo wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:WhoDO you did it again, you left out the filemanager mini-icon :) here's a pic, it shows where its actually linked to, probably where the problems starts from.
Now that's really WEIRD because I check back over my Unleashed packages and rootfs-complete directories and what I have there in both places is the actual icon, not a link. Maybe .... I dunno. Just put it back and it will be fixed for the next release. *sheesh* :o
also you didn't use the icewm6 I posted on page one of alpha4 you used icewm5 from alpha3. Icewm6 I did last night, it has the reduced right and left hand taskbar icons, plus I made all the themes look="flat" and re-enabled -show desktop, added back ttuuxxxView which was missing, the link was always on the rightclick of freememory applet, but the little script didn't find its way into the icewm release, it was used in my older larger release and when freememory was reused ttuuxxxView was left behind, by accident.
anyways I re-uploaded it to page 1 of this thread.
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WhoDo wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:Add the latest mtpaint plus the new snapshot with adjustable delay timer.
I'd love to but it needs serious pruning first. As I said in the 'Known Issues' I had to leave it out because it contains 3Mb of documentation alone. Who knows what else could be pared from the package to get it down to the size of 3.29 (or less) :?:
it is, the size of the 3.20 with the updated snapshot pet packages is 261.12 KB pet or like 551kb installed, its just about the same size, try it out its on page 1 of this thread and try the snapshot feature. just do the fixmenus/ restart jw/icewm and you'll see it.
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#33 Post by WhoDo »

zigbert wrote:1.)
When closing a side-tray (add widget/icon), the old tray (without close button) is still there. The reason is because side-tray code is still in /root/.jwmrc-tray. It should have been removed.

2.)
The Stardust gtk-theme is still the old one. You'll find it on the 'Stardust recourses' page.

3.)
The menuicon of Figaros password manager and Gxine is too wide.
Fixed.
zigbert wrote:4.)
Desktop icon 'Install' is a symlink and I think the icon is wrong. It should have been pointing to pet48.png.

5.)
The Icon_switcher does not keep the unique menu icons when changing icon theme. It auto-generates 24x24 icons out of the 48x48 icon theme. Like this it overwrites existing menu icons. I guess Barry made this to save space (the 24x24 icons didn't have to be in the iso).
Warren has to make a choice if he will support unique menu icons.
Under consideration. All icon themes will need to comply to a standard specification and that has yet to be developed. Barry made the switcher capable of handling SVG icons that were manipulated to create the 48x48 and 24x24 standard icons for the desktop and menus. Subsequent themes have used PNG, JPG, XPM and SVG. That will all have to be resolved before the final release. Any takers?
zigbert wrote:6.)
Yaf-splash welcome message shows up before widgets are loaded.
That is by design. It waits for the user intervention or a timeout (I think) before disappearing but only appears on first run before a pup_save.2fs file is created.
zigbert wrote:7.)
The fantastic pdf-printer is not in my printer list.
Beta1 doesn't include the latest version of ttuuxxx's CUPS software and libraries. Beta2/RC1 will fix.
zigbert wrote:8.)
/etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc misses info to NOT show window-decoration for xli and xpad.
<Group>
<Class>xli</Class>
<Name>xli</Name>
<Option>noborder</Option>
<Option>notitle</Option>
<Option>sticky</Option>
<Option>nolist</Option>
<!-- Option>layer:2</Option -->
</Group>
Fixed.
zigbert wrote:9.)
The trash and lock icon has a bit unlogical placement on the desktop.
Positions were hard coded to keep these out of the way of default Pwidgets and it looks like your wide-screen implementation has added extra space between them.
zigbert wrote:10.)
I couldn't install my printer because the lack of username/password
Long known userID=puppy pwd=woofwoof ... ttuuxxx's latest version has this pre-entered (I think), but if it doesn't that would be a good thing to do for usability.
zigbert wrote:11.)
The gxine doesn't work when streaming internet radios.
Implementation in 4.2 is MU's modified gxine that resolves some playback issues. The version in 4.1.2 was problematic. We are looking at Alsaplayer+Streamtuner to overcome the issue of streaming radio.
zigbert wrote:12.)
Yahtzee doesn't write highscore
Curious. I've been playing that version for quite a while and it writes my high scores file fine - in fact it improves the layout of that file by making the OK button visible at the bottom of the window at all times regardless of the number of entries (below the maximum number). More investigation required.
zigbert wrote:13.)
fixmenus script fails to split name and description for
- Figaros password manager
- Rubix cube
- Manage printing
I have attached a updated fixmenus script
Grabbed, thank you Sigmund.
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#34 Post by WhoDo »

ttuuxxx wrote:also you didn't use the icewm6 I posted on page one of alpha4 you used icewm5 from alpha3. Icewm6 I did last night, it has the reduced right and left hand taskbar icons, plus I made all the themes look="flat" and re-enabled -show desktop, added back ttuuxxxView which was missing, the link was always on the rightclick of freememory applet, but the little script didn't find its way into the icewm release, it was used in my older larger release and when freememory was reused ttuuxxxView was left behind, by accident.
anyways I re-uploaded it to page 1 of this thread.
I'm pretty sure I mentioned that I hadn't included this one back in the Alpha4 thread. I got it too late to add to the Beta1 release but I've downloaded it and I'm testing it in my pre-beta2/rc1 test bed. It will be in but the number of themes will be pruned back for space considerations. Odelite will stay but the others will be left out of the standard release. I'd like to include BRdelite too, but I don't think I'll have the room. I have included Elberg-blue because I wanted users to have an option of 1xdark and 1xlight theme. If you wanted to try and trim that down it would be helpful. Maybe you'll get it small enough that I can include BRdelite original with the flat title bar and bubble buttons as a third option. :wink:
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#35 Post by ttuuxxx »

WhoDo wrote:
zigbert wrote:1.)
zigbert wrote:10.)
I couldn't install my printer because the lack of username/password
Long known userID=puppy pwd=woofwoof ... ttuuxxx's latest version has this pre-entered (I think), but if it doesn't that would be a good thing to do for usability. <---Not yet But I'll put it on the top of my list, If I'm unable to do so, because I checked google yesterday and it hasn't been done before, I'll change the html to provided the username and password so all users will know what it is.

zigbert wrote:12.)
Yahtzee doesn't write highscore
Curious. I've been playing that version for quite a while and it writes my high scores file fine - in fact it improves the layout of that file by making the OK button visible at the bottom of the window at all times regardless of the number of entries (below the maximum number). More investigation required. <----- This is to do a with a incomplete tcl/tk package, I'm working on that also :)
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#36 Post by WhoDo »

ttuuxxx wrote:
WhoDo wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:Add the latest mtpaint plus the new snapshot with adjustable delay timer.
I'd love to but it needs serious pruning first.
it is, the size of the 3.20 with the updated snapshot pet packages is 261.12 KB pet or like 551kb installed
Now THAT'S what I'm talkin' about! :P The version I had was 4.6Mb uncompressed and 3Mb of that was the manual! :o Thanks, ttuuxxx.
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#37 Post by ttuuxxx »

WhoDo delete that Mtpaint package you just downloaded and grab the latest and final version, this one has the following improvements over the first package
It becomes 'defaultimageviewer'
Included are the default icons that puppy uses 2mini and 1pixmaps
added the mimes also so you can't go wrong :)

On another note WhoDo I seriously would consider scrapping the Icon-theme-selector and fixmenus script. This version is starting to act like a alpha. this is why
I replaced the missing rox mini icon, I compiled/installed the new mtpaint and looked at the other themes and the rox icon is disappeared again. Back to the link again, like the image earlier.
Also the 'shutdown menu was up' but now its reverted back to old look without the 'shutdown menu'
And it had a printer Icon in the menu, and now thats gone.
Really we are moving files in place where they never were, Things are breaking like pmount, Things are disappearing from menus, like the icons, or they aren't switching right. Its just over complicating things, I thing this crazy mess should go. Without a working drive mounting program makes this release a alpha, you can call it beta, but not by definition.
I've made icewm packages as you know including icons, that changed 90% of the menu icons by default, I've made firefox packages, that became default browsers and changed the desktop 'browser' icon, perfect 100% of the time. never failed once.
My advice is either package each of the icon sets up into pet packages. have them sit in a folder along with a cropped snapshot, for a viewer to pickup. like /user/share/iconssets
Then make a modified puppy package manager, that installs them without notice and displays the accompanying image of what it will look like.
It must have to do with the way the puppy manager installs things, because it just works for changing icons. No issues no problems.
We are getting way late into the game, to have serious issues thats cripples mounting of hard drives on a regular basis, i don't mind adding the Icon once, but every time I install somethings, I have to include that icon or my sata2 does work. thats not on.
Seriously we are Alpha 5 codename Beta1, lets replace it, or toss it. Tough call but its your ball park, bases are loaded and your up to bat.
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#38 Post by ttuuxxx »

One last rant before I'm done :shock: -ing
The old change you desktop icon switcher worked in 4.0.
Issues started happening with system links, menu files etc, to change menu icons and taskbar icons.
I would Toss the menu,taskbar icons
I would revert back to the old fixmenus script and desktop icon changer from series 4.0
I would Keep the Desktop icons only and have a nice day :)
simple. Then I would say to who ever wants these things in place, make it work, remaster puppy, give me a testing iso that you can abuse, ex install/uninstall programs fixmenus, change wm/ change themes/ etc. use it for like a week. If it passes ask for the package and if doesn't It just wasn't ment to be.
If you want to go back to the old system, I could
package up the deskyop switcher from 4.0 series, strip out the mini icons, add the older fixmenus script. add the usr/share/applications/.desktop file
addselect the best of zigberts minicons and use them a default icon set for the taskbar and menus. etc
then end result would be
1 complete mini-icon theme for menu/taskbar that doesn't change via desktop icon chooser.
maybe 4 or 5 desktop only icon themes, and all the issues go away.
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WhoDo wrote:Long known userID=puppy pwd=woofwoof ... ttuuxxx's latest version has this pre-entered (I think), but if it doesn't that would be a good thing to do for usability.
Is this not just a matter of going into /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and modifying all the lines that specify authentication?

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#40 Post by ttuuxxx »

Here's a fix for tcl/tk TKYahtzee Highscore, once its installed, the high scores will display and will record the high scores. plus the error message is gone.
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