Puppy Linux Discussion Forum Forum Index Puppy Linux Discussion Forum
Puppy HOME page : puppylinux.com
"THE" alternative forum : puppylinux.info
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

The time now is Wed 23 Apr 2014, 19:25
All times are UTC - 4
 Forum index » Advanced Topics » Hardware
Replaced HD with CF-to-IDE, got it running first try
Moderators: Flash, Ian, JohnMurga
Post new topic   Reply to topic View previous topic :: View next topic
Page 1 of 1 [11 Posts]  
Author Message
peppyy


Joined: 27 Jun 2005
Posts: 429
Location: VT USA

PostPosted: Fri 09 Dec 2005, 20:33    Post subject:  Replaced HD with CF-to-IDE, got it running first try  

Solid State here we come. I can't believe how easy it was to get this 600e to boot to an old compact flash card in a cheap ebay mini ide adapter.

Put it in place of the existing hard drive.
Booted to the live 1.0.5 cd
Formated it to linux type 82
Installed Puppy type 2 to hard drive
Installed Grub to MBR
Remove cd
Shutdown
Boot to Puppy on solid state HD Smile

Not hearing the drive starting all the time is great. I can't really tell if it is any faster but this is an old 256mb card out of my Nikon camera so it ain't no 80x

Having too much fun now lol.

_________________
Questions? Search Puppy Linux Answers with Google
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger 
BlackAdder


Joined: 22 May 2005
Posts: 382

PostPosted: Sat 10 Dec 2005, 02:34    Post subject:  

peppy, there is a long thread on the topic of compact flash used as an IDE device here.
Barry has incorporated support for the PSLEEP=999 boot parameter in 1.0.5 and later releases.
That can defer write-back to the CF until shut-down, minimising writes and potentially extending the life of the device. But Marv's mods are not in Puppy...yet!?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
pakt


Joined: 04 Jun 2005
Posts: 1089
Location: Sweden

PostPosted: Sat 10 Dec 2005, 03:13    Post subject: Re: Replaced HD with CF-to-IDE, got it running first try  

peppyy wrote:
Solid State here we come. I can't believe how easy it was to get this 600e to boot to an old compact flash card in a cheap ebay mini ide adapter.

peppyy, nice going! I was thinking of doing the same thing with my old Dell Latitude D300XT (300MHz PII).

Could you give us a clue to which cheap ebay mini ide adapter you bought? Maybe I can get one there too... Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
peppyy


Joined: 27 Jun 2005
Posts: 429
Location: VT USA

PostPosted: Sat 10 Dec 2005, 12:28    Post subject:  

Pakt

http://tinyurl.com/9p2ds

I got it from Hong Kong in 7 days. It has a jumper for master if removed it becomes slave. Came packed in between 2 pieces of styrofoam in a paper envelope via airmail.

BlackAdder
I have been watching the HD led for activity and seldom see it light Planning in installing fvwm95 today and running the nonitors to see how it is doing.n I would also be interested in a drive space monitor. Haven't gotten that far yet though.

Lovin it right now.

_________________
Questions? Search Puppy Linux Answers with Google
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger 
pakt


Joined: 04 Jun 2005
Posts: 1089
Location: Sweden

PostPosted: Sat 10 Dec 2005, 16:04    Post subject:  

Many thanks, Peppyy. I just placed an order with them Very Happy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Marv


Joined: 04 May 2005
Posts: 291
Location: SW Wisconsin

PostPosted: Sun 11 Dec 2005, 00:12    Post subject: CF installations  

I love CF installations. Quiet, reliable, and portable. See the link above in BlackAdders post. I prefer a 'USB' style installation, both because it only writes back to the pupxxx file on shutdown, and it is really simple to upgrade and move about.

Removing the zeroization on writeback ( Barry has done it for 1.0.6 and 1.0.7 alpha) increases the writeback speed so much that I really haven't been using any of the patches I worked on back around 1.0.3 or so.

The first time around, the 'install to usb' from a live CD seems to install just fine to hda1 for me so long as syslinux is not 3.08. I use 128 Mb pup files (on 384 Mb ram machines) and then edit syslinux.cfg to point to hda1 and usually can reduce the value of PSLEEP to 1.

Having done that once or twice, I now usually run syslinux on hda1, edit syslinux.cfg and just copy image.gz, usr_cram.fs, vmlinuz from the live CD and my current working pupxxx to hda1 and boot.

Since the size of the pupxxx file is really system memory, not CF card size limited, I now partition the CF card and use the second partition for sourcecode or data storage where write frequency is acceptably low.

Writing this from 1.0.7 alpha on an intel 815 system using the same pup004 that I created at work using the faster pipe to install Opera 8.51, then moved to an old IBM i1400 laptop and then here. One live CD, one pupxxx file, three radically different machines, and fewer than 5 files to keep track of. That's Puppy! Very Happy

_________________
tweaked 412 based boxpup, well honed 'lina-lite-005, alphaOS 321 Wink , X-precise-2.3, Lxpup 14.03, and not to forget trusty Carolina/Carolite. All lean and steady pups.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Marv


Joined: 04 May 2005
Posts: 291
Location: SW Wisconsin

PostPosted: Sun 11 Dec 2005, 13:10    Post subject: syslinux versions  

The syslinux in pup 1.0.7.alpha is version 3.11 (Thanks Barry) and works perfectly on my CF cards in IDE adapters. Just type syslinux /dev/hda1 in a console, then copy the pup files to hda1. Should boot and run.
_________________
tweaked 412 based boxpup, well honed 'lina-lite-005, alphaOS 321 Wink , X-precise-2.3, Lxpup 14.03, and not to forget trusty Carolina/Carolite. All lean and steady pups.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
pakt


Joined: 04 Jun 2005
Posts: 1089
Location: Sweden

PostPosted: Sun 11 Dec 2005, 17:15    Post subject:  

Thanks for your info, Marv. It will come in handy when my CF adapter arrives.

I'm really looking forward to dumping the noisey hard disk in my Dell D300XT laptop Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
peppyy


Joined: 27 Jun 2005
Posts: 429
Location: VT USA

PostPosted: Sun 11 Dec 2005, 18:21    Post subject:  

Oops double post. it is just too fast for me now lol.
_________________
Questions? Search Puppy Linux Answers with Google

Last edited by peppyy on Sun 11 Dec 2005, 18:23; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger 
peppyy


Joined: 27 Jun 2005
Posts: 429
Location: VT USA

PostPosted: Sun 11 Dec 2005, 18:22    Post subject:  

It really is so quiet. I am sitting a few feet away from an asus terminator t2 I built last year and the variable speed fan drives me crazy now.

I don't know what the hard drive was drawing for power but it was a lot more than this setup I am guessing with all the spin-ups I am using 1/3 less now. When I do my next install on a 1 gig 80x I think I will heed the advise anfd add another partition for storage. Will have to look into the newest Pup then too but that will have to wait till after the holicay bills are all paid.

I was thinking about a little mod on the laptop. Since I now have all that room where the hard drive used to be I thought it would be nice to have a usb storage device in there for the home file. That would eliminate the need for a larger CF card and still allow for your Pup to change machines easily. The best part is that it would be internal so it wouldnt get disturbed.

Ahhhhhh Dreams .

_________________
Questions? Search Puppy Linux Answers with Google
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger 
pakt


Joined: 04 Jun 2005
Posts: 1089
Location: Sweden

PostPosted: Mon 12 Dec 2005, 05:59    Post subject:  

peppyy wrote:

I was thinking about a little mod on the laptop. Since I now have all that room where the hard drive used to be I thought it would be nice to have a usb storage device in there for the home file. That would eliminate the need for a larger CF card and still allow for your Pup to change machines easily. The best part is that it would be internal so it wouldnt get disturbed.

Reminds me of my original "diskless" experiment. I didn't have a CF-to-IDE adapter, so I set up my Dell D300XT (128MB RAM) like this:

- Used Puppy 1.0.6 with a 512MB SanDisk Cruzer flash stick to make a Puppy USB drive (Option 2)
- Added marker file PUPXUSB to flash drive
- Burned WakePup 1.1c to CD
- Removed the hard disk from the laptop
- Plugged in the USB drive (slow USB 1.1 port)
- Booted the WakePup CD, chose to boot from USB (pup100 on flash drive)
- Pro: Puppy running in RAM on nearly silent machine. Very nice!
- Con: Took a while to load Puppy from USB at USB 1.1 speed, but it worked.
Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
Page 1 of 1 [11 Posts]  
Post new topic   Reply to topic View previous topic :: View next topic
 Forum index » Advanced Topics » Hardware
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
[ Time: 0.0626s ][ Queries: 12 (0.0072s) ][ GZIP on ]