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#21 Post by tronkel »

ttuuxxx wrote:
after you setup the printer did you go back to Printers, click on administration and selected 'set a server default' ?
Yes tried that but still no joy. Even tried the hpijs pet package for the driver, but that is even worse. CUPS then throws a backend exception error.

Other thoughts:

What about trying to include support for ATI and NVIDIA video cards etc? Maybe the libraries would be a bit on the big side though. The fglrx driver seems to work in other puplets (sometimes!).

Claws can be problematical to compile with all the plugins (e.g. gpg support)

Seamonkey Mail is simply easier and also works with Enigmail for gpg.

Or .... Change to Firefox and use the Simple Mail extension. Firepup?
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#22 Post by ttuuxxx »

tronkel wrote:ttuuxxx wrote:
after you setup the printer did you go back to Printers, click on administration and selected 'set a server default' ?
Yes tried that but still no joy. Even tried the hpijs pet package for the driver, but that is even worse. CUPS then throws a backend exception error.

Other thoughts:

What about trying to include support for ATI and NVIDIA video cards etc? Maybe the libraries would be a bit on the big side though. The fglrx driver seems to work in other puplets (sometimes!).

Claws can be problematical to compile with all the plugins (e.g. gpg support)

Seamonkey Mail is simply easier and also works with Enigmail for gpg.

Or .... Change to Firefox and use the Simple Mail extension. Firepup?
I can recompile claws mail later on today, We are currently over our 100MB limit by a hair, and can't afford the extra 2MB+ from seamonkey mail, or ati/nvidia would be too large also, but the repo could host these files and could be downloaded/installed via petget package manager.
hpijs I'll check, but I think that could be a compiling option in one of the packages, if so that could be the problem.
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#23 Post by tasmod »

There seems to be a permissions problem with WorldTime in Pwidgets.

Make sure it's not in active list and all should be OK.

On my machine if I create it anew in Geany all is well.

Nothing has been altered in the original file.

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#24 Post by tronkel »

@ttuuxxx

OK, ati and nvidia stuff could just be an optional pet package.

How about trying the Ubuntu or Debian CUPS package and convert it to a dotpet. My system prints fine with either Debian or Ubuntu.

Or maybe as you say, there is something wrong with the hpijs stuff.
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#25 Post by ttuuxxx »

tronkel wrote:@ttuuxxx

OK, ati and nvidia stuff could just be an optional pet package.

How about trying the Ubuntu or Debian CUPS package and convert it to a dotpet. My system prints fine with either Debian or Ubuntu.

Or maybe as you say, there is something wrong with the hpijs stuff.
I'm compiling the hpijs package right now and I'll upload it, maybe you can try it and se if that works? I don't have a hpijs printer, only a Canaon pixma printer that works perfect with this cups set, as for the the ubuntu/Debian package, are you saying you converted the ubuntu/debian package to a pet and it worked on puppy 4.0+ series without extras like dbus, etc just the regular main programs, gutenprint, foomatic filters etx and is 1.4 Cups or 1.3 Cups?
Thanks for your help tronkel
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#26 Post by ttuuxxx »

Tronkel could you please try this package first it doesn't contain the ppd's but that should be ok.
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/ ... No-ppd.pet
And if that one doesn't work then the full package is located here with all the ppd's
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/ ... 2-i386.pet
I had to disable fax, due to the fact it needed dbus and I wasn't going to start messing with dbus again.
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#27 Post by Lobster »

One of the background wallpapers (Aurora-Australis) has sneaked in as 189k - formaly it was around 40 k as Ttuuxxx mentions in the next post There is also a sad looking dog of 40k that has been around for a long time. Do we need it? If required we could add 30 64x44 images that would offer more diversity . . .

189k? :roll:

I enclose 3 plasma images I created without too much effort
that are not even 4k combined :)
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#28 Post by ttuuxxx »

Lobster wrote:One of the background wallpapers (Aurora-Australis) has sneaked in as 189k

189k? :roll:

I enclose 3 I created
that are not even 4k combined :)
But if you compress it a bit, it can be knok down to 40kb, anymore and you start to loose some detail and it gets blury
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Re: Not fixed: Ghostscript: ESP 8.15.2

#29 Post by Greatnessguru »

ttuuxxx wrote:
Greatnessguru wrote:RC1 here still shows the very same behavior, ESP ... 8.15.2.
Thanks maddox but I remembered after that,
When I was compiling Ghostscript it produces
a very large bin over 11MB stripped,

On previous older ghostscripts like the one in
puppy 3 and 4.0-4.12 you can reduce the bin file by
making it a .so file but with the newer one it has a
documented problem with out glibc and produces a
error and just doesn't work right,

So either we use the older ghostscript sources/package or
what I did was reuse the older bin+lib .so file which
saved us around 5MB and used it in the latest version. :)

But since then I recompiled it on 4.2 beta 2 and managed to
get the bin split into a bin+.so but when I went to strip it,
it didn't reduce in size.
libgs.so.8.64 <---11MB stripped or not
libgs.so.8.15 <---3.9MB (older version)
So the Ghostscript pacakge is 96% new and 4%old but that
wouldn't count for a permissions problem.
ttuuxxx
"what I did was reuse the older bin+lib .so file"
means we still have ESP Ghostscript 8.15.2, but,
with a "GPL Ghostscript 8.64" shiny sticker on it?

And, since GPL Ghostscript 8.63:
"Behdad Esfahbod has contributed a
cairo output device which uses the
cairo graphics library to generate
PDF, SVG, EPS, or PNG files, based on
the requested filename extension.
The svgwrite device directly outputs
Scalable Vector Graphics, the W3C XML
vector graphics format.",
but,
I find no "svgwrite device" listed in:
# gs --help
since we don't Really have 8.64, but 8.15...?

I also noticed some "Available devices" are
listed twice: "png16 png16", etc.

Thank you,
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#30 Post by Jim1911 »

ttuuxxx.

Thanks for the new hpijs-2.8.12 pets, however, they don't work.

Everything seems fine to modify the printer setting until the screen after you enter the password. It finds the printer and shows "modify HP-Photosmart_C5200_series", however it hangs on that page with the pointer showing the little rotating circle that indicates that it is trying to find the next page.

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#31 Post by Lobster »

Thanks to Aragon pwget has been updated allowing the download of a complete website - as well as individual files
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 422#278422

rename the enclosed file pwget.zip to just pwget
and replace the file /usr/local/Pwget/pwget

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Re: Not fixed: Ghostscript: ESP 8.15.2

#32 Post by ttuuxxx »

Greatnessguru wrote:
As of this release we are around 500kb over our 100MB limit,
If I use 100% the latest ghostscript we will be around another additional 4MB over, Where in the world can we find 4.5MB to remove? I'm only using 2 files from the older version and like 200 from the latest, sure it will register as the previous version, but the rest is updated.Well maybe not the newer way of processing svg files, But to have a full function cups package in puppy working out the box hasn't been done before, Gutenprint was always a repo item I think. So this CUPS package is taking a lot of extra space the way it sits.
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#33 Post by Minnesota »

Congratulation Canon printer 4300 up and running out of the box!!
:D :D

Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Net is not being recognized on this IBM Thinkpad R52... Pre 4.2 it is recognized. .... :(

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#34 Post by ttuuxxx »

Minnesota wrote:Congratulation Canon printer 4300 up and running out of the box!!
:D :D

Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Net is not being recognized on this IBM Thinkpad R52... Pre 4.2 it is recognized. .... :(
Glad to hear its working for you also :)
It looks like Canon usb is working great now, Now its just to get the hp working right.
I'll see what I can do, but since I don't have a HP printer and just canon, it makes this task very difficult at most.
Would be easier if people with linux know how, try to get the hp printers working with this package, It would save a lot of time and effort.

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Re: Not fixed: Ghostscript: ESP 8.15.2

#35 Post by Greatnessguru »

ttuuxxx wrote:As of this release we are around 500kb over our 100MB limit, ...

... taking a lot of extra space the way it sits.
ttuuxxx
"the way it sits.", ESP Ghostscript 8.15.2 is being
__misrepresented__ as "GPL Ghostscript 8.64".

I have no concern whatsoever about space issues,
but lying, in the forthcoming release notes,
PET package names, whathaveyou, is __wrong__.

Proper, correct, accurate communication/documentation
is the __right__ thing to do, Always.

So, please, tell the world, and WhoDo,
the truth about which Ghostscript is Really going to be in
Puppy Linux 4.2. Ok?

Thank you,
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Re: Not fixed: Ghostscript: ESP 8.15.2

#36 Post by ttuuxxx »

Greatnessguru wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:As of this release we are around 500kb over our 100MB limit, ...

... taking a lot of extra space the way it sits.
ttuuxxx
"the way it sits.", ESP Ghostscript 8.15.2 is being
__misrepresented__ as "GPL Ghostscript 8.64".

I have no concern whatsoever about space issues,
but lying, in the forthcoming release notes,
PET package names, whathaveyou, is __wrong__.

Proper, correct, accurate communication/documentation
is the __right__ thing to do, Always.

So, please, tell the world, and WhoDo,
the truth about which Ghostscript is Really going to be in
Puppy Linux 4.2. Ok?

Thank you,
Eddie Maddox
Inwood IA USA
Well I've stated it like 5 times, at least on here, plus when I made the package I did say that also. I was not 'lying' I just forgot when you asked me, I've been working on this project a min of 15hr a day, since it started, and trying my hardest to get it working and running, and like I said before I don't even print with Linux, I'm doing this solely for everybody else's benefits, I have nothing to gain if CUPS works or not. Its still well over 90% the latest release, whatever really, try to help out the people doing all the work instead of making the work harder and unhappier, I am not a lier . Plus I don't think it even mentions Which ghostscript is being used, only the cups version and thats 100% new and the same with GutenPrint, and Foomatic.
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Re: Not fixed: Ghostscript: ESP 8.15.2

#37 Post by Greatnessguru »

ttuuxxx wrote:... Plus I don't think it even mentions
Which ghostscript is being used,
only the cups version and thats 100% new and
the same with GutenPrint, and Foomatic.
ttuuxxx
Ok. I'm not a coder, or a lawyer (thank goodness!),
but maybe some others here can help out with
ideas about what to call it.

SeaMonkey and Firefox have similar issues with their
Trademarked names, etc.,
and so are called different things in some distros
when they are customized, and not the Stock releases.

I just don't want anyone getting the wrong idea, as I was,
about what was coming with Puppy Linux 4.2.

Thanks,
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#38 Post by pa_mcclamrock »

ttuuxxx wrote:Printing Works !!! :)
[reiterations omitted]
Does not. Not for me, anyway. I set up my Brother HL5140 as the default printer and tried to print from AbiWord and SeaMonkey. All I got was the same old error messages in the CUPS error log:

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E [27/Feb/2009:02:12:59 +0800] Unknown browse protocol "@CUPS_DEFAULT_BROWSE_LOCAL_PROTOCOLS@" ignored!
E [26/Feb/2009:18:15:08 +0800] Unknown browse protocol "@CUPS_DEFAULT_BROWSE_LOCAL_PROTOCOLS@" ignored!
E [26/Feb/2009:18:22:37 +0800] [Job 1] Unable to open device file "/dev/lp0": Permission denied
E [26/Feb/2009:18:23:16 +0800] Returning IPP client-error-bad-request for Get-Jobs (ipp://localhost/jobs) from localhost
E [26/Feb/2009:18:25:10 +0800] Returning IPP client-error-bad-request for Get-Jobs (ipp://localhost/jobs) from localhost
E [26/Feb/2009:18:25:23 +0800] Returning IPP client-error-bad-request for Get-Jobs (ipp://localhost/jobs) from localhost
E [26/Feb/2009:18:25:26 +0800] Returning IPP client-error-bad-request for Get-Jobs (ipp://localhost/jobs) from localhost
E [26/Feb/2009:18:27:04 +0800] Returning IPP client-error-bad-request for Get-Jobs (ipp://localhost/jobs) from localhost
This is really dismaying, in contrast to CUPS 1.1.23 on Puppy 4.1.1 which works perfectly. But there are several weeks left until Easter. Remedies, anyone?
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#39 Post by ttuuxxx »

pa_mcclamrock wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:Printing Works !!! :)
[reiterations omitted]
Does not. Not for me, anyway. I set up my Brother HL5140 as the default printer and tried to print from AbiWord and SeaMonkey. All I got was the same old error messages in the CUPS error log:

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E [27/Feb/2009:02:12:59 +0800] Unknown browse protocol "@CUPS_DEFAULT_BROWSE_LOCAL_PROTOCOLS@" ignored!
E [26/Feb/2009:18:15:08 +0800] Unknown browse protocol "@CUPS_DEFAULT_BROWSE_LOCAL_PROTOCOLS@" ignored!
E [26/Feb/2009:18:22:37 +0800] [Job 1] Unable to open device file "/dev/lp0": Permission denied
E [26/Feb/2009:18:23:16 +0800] Returning IPP client-error-bad-request for Get-Jobs (ipp://localhost/jobs) from localhost
E [26/Feb/2009:18:25:10 +0800] Returning IPP client-error-bad-request for Get-Jobs (ipp://localhost/jobs) from localhost
E [26/Feb/2009:18:25:23 +0800] Returning IPP client-error-bad-request for Get-Jobs (ipp://localhost/jobs) from localhost
E [26/Feb/2009:18:25:26 +0800] Returning IPP client-error-bad-request for Get-Jobs (ipp://localhost/jobs) from localhost
E [26/Feb/2009:18:27:04 +0800] Returning IPP client-error-bad-request for Get-Jobs (ipp://localhost/jobs) from localhost
This is really dismaying, in contrast to CUPS 1.1.23 on Puppy 4.1.1 which works perfectly. But there are several weeks left until Easter. Remedies, anyone?
Come on lets not all get disappointed, it works perfect for me and others as stated, bringing up older cups models that didn't work for others doesn't help, finding out why your permissions isn't working when it works out of the box for others would be helpful.
your linux savvy, So lend a hand please. right now Cups is working around 50% of the peoples printers thats up 50% from the last release, I call that a hell of a improvement! is your printer usb??


ttuuxxx"Printing works on Canon pixma 5200"
NathanO "Printing works on USB on HP zv6100. "
Minnesota "Congratulation Canon printer 4300 up and running out of the box!! "

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#40 Post by pa_mcclamrock »

ttuuxxx wrote:finding out why your permissions isn't working when it works out of the box for others would be helpful.
Something changes the permissions. As I said in the Beta2 thread, the /dev/lp0 connection starts out with "777" (execute) permissions, like /dev/lp1. After I try to print, /dev/lp0 shows "660" (no execute) permissions, unlike /dev/lp1.
is your printer usb??
No, parallel port.
[ . . . ]bringing up older cups models that didn't work for others doesn't help [ . . . ]
Except to indicate that whatever is making the printing not work on my system is something that's different from how it was in Puppy 4.1.1.

EDIT 2009 Feb 26 9:25 PM EST: Hmm, yes, let me think . . . what's different? Well, it's that something changes the permissions on the printer connection, /dev/lp0. So, um, what if I manually change the permissions of /dev/lp0 back to 777? Guess what . . .

Printing Works !!! :)

And when do the permissions get messed up? Looking at them each step of the way, I find that it's right when the CUPS window opens up, before I've done anything about adding a printer. After that happens, if I change them back to 777, they stay that way.

And so the solution is . . . either (1) find and fix the bug that makes CUPS (sometimes) change the permissions when it opens up, or (2) add in a bit of code to determine whether the permissions on the connected device are OK after that point, and to change them if they're not. Right?

Somebody who knows a lot more about CUPS than I do will have to provide the solution, which presumably isn't to tell every user "If you can't print, just try manually changing the permissions on /dev/lp0, or whatever device file stands for your printer connection." (Huh?) Me, I can now proceed to hunt for comparatively little bugs to report in this RC, because . . . with just a bit of non-obvious manual tweaking . . .

Printing Works !!! :)

And here's the first comparatively little bug I've found: when I closed the ROX-Filer window in which I was examining the permissions of /dev/lp0, I found that the Pwidgets clock now had a picturesque but incongruous background consisting of hard-disk icons and device names from ROX-Filer!
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