Puppy 4.2 RC1 Deep Thought - Bugs & Fixes

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#41 Post by ttuuxxx »

pa_mcclamrock wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:finding out why your permissions isn't working when it works out of the box for others would be helpful.
Something changes the permissions. As I said in the Beta2 thread, the /dev/lp0 connection starts out with "777" (execute) permissions, like /dev/lp1. After I try to print, /dev/lp0 shows "660" (no execute) permissions, unlike /dev/lp1.
is your printer usb??
No, parallel port.
[ . . . ]bringing up older cups models that didn't work for others doesn't help [ . . . ]
Except to indicate that whatever is making the printing not work on my system is something that's different from how it was in Puppy 4.1.1.

EDIT 2009 Feb 26 9:25 PM EST: Hmm, yes, let me think . . . what's different? Well, it's that something changes the permissions on the printer connection, /dev/lp0. So, um, what if I manually change the permissions of /dev/lp0 back to 777? Guess what . . .

Printing Works !!! :)

And when do the permissions get messed up? Looking at them each step of the way, I find that it's right when the CUPS window opens up, before I've done anything about adding a printer. After that happens, if I change them back to 777, they stay that way.

And so the solution is . . . either (1) find and fix the bug that makes CUPS (sometimes) change the permissions when it opens up, or (2) add in a bit of code to determine whether the permissions on the connected device are OK after that point, and to change them if they're not. Right?

Somebody who knows a lot more about CUPS than I do will have to provide the solution, which presumably isn't to tell every user "If you can't print, just try manually changing the permissions on /dev/lp0, or whatever device file stands for your printer connection." (Huh?) Me, I can now proceed to hunt for comparatively little bugs to report in this RC, because . . . with just a bit of non-obvious manual tweaking . . .

Printing Works !!! :)

And here's the first comparatively little bug I've found: when I closed the ROX-Filer window in which I was examining the permissions of /dev/lp0, I found that the Pwidgets clock now had a picturesque but incongruous background consisting of hard-disk icons and device names from ROX-Filer!
I can edit cups's window, whats the command line you used to change the printer.s permission
say if you opened a terminal from the desktop and typed ?????
I'll add that line to cups. and then package a fix for you to test, hows that sound?
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#42 Post by `f00 »

pa_mcclamrock wrote:<snip>… I found that the Pwidgets clock now had a picturesque but incongruous background consisting of hard-disk icons and device names from ROX-Filer!
At least it wasn't the red banjos on a green .. :)
That may be a new fixwidgets feature .. why I took show_widgets out of the /root/Startup (which likes to make a fixwidgets which if it works as previous pulls a fixPuppyPin which ..)

just spitballin' .. ah, the dialup dl is finally almost finito after a rough start this ayem .. and real pwidgets experts should be 'round shortly to fix that clock ;) .. and its bg

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#43 Post by ttuuxxx »

[quote="pa_mcclamrock"][/quote]

Hi I'm on the ##cups of freenode, I was wondering if you could come on to the chat channel and talk with cups's support, The users name is vimpulse he needs to talk to you about cups, Hes very helpful and could probably work this out for us.
If you can open xchat, then get the room list, click the top of the list where the names are, that will sort the list from a-z, scroll down to ##CUPS and click on that.
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#44 Post by panzerpuppy »

@ttuuxxx: As promised,here's a tiny low-res video for you to try. Let's see if your box with VLC can handle this one without skipping:

CLICKY

This is the "lightest' one - only half the CPU munch compared to the other videos I've tested :D

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#45 Post by ttuuxxx »

panzerpuppy wrote:@ttuuxxx: As promised,here's a tiny low-res video for you to try. Let's see if your box with VLC can handle this one without skipping:

CLICKY

This is the "lightest' one - only half the CPU munch compared to the other videos I've tested :D
LOL thanks I'm downloading it, but it might be a day or 2 before I can try it, :) Thanks for it .
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#46 Post by pa_mcclamrock »

ttuuxxx wrote:I can edit cups's window, whats the command line you used to change the printer.s permission
say if you opened a terminal from the desktop and typed ?????
Um, I right-clicked /dev/lp0 in ROX-Filer, selected Permissions from the pop-up menu, and clicked all the checkboxes for the permissions. :) Had I done it from the command line, it would have been "chmod 777 /dev/lp0."
I'll add that line to cups. and then package a fix for you to test, hows that sound?
It sounds good for me, but the tricky part--which would require more CUPS knowledge than I've got--is this: what if the connection on somebody else's system isn't /dev/lp0? How do you find out what it is?
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#47 Post by pa_mcclamrock »

ttuuxxx wrote:Hi I'm on the ##cups of freenode, I was wondering if you could come on to the chat channel and talk with cups's support, The users name is vimpulse he needs to talk to you about cups, Hes very helpful and could probably work this out for us.
Sorry, but I was asleep by the time you posted that message. Is there another way I can contact him?
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#48 Post by aragon »

@ whodo

some more bugs:

- /etc/ld.so.conf is still missing an entry for /usr/local/lib
- /usr/local/sbin is missing in PATH
- gadmin-rsync is the old version new: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 518#271518 Note: Old one does not work!

aragon
these are still in rc1.

- xarchive and xarchiver are still both in. is there anything left to do, that xarchiver becomes default and xarchive leaves?
- i don't use neither xchat or meebo, but do we need xchat if we have the online-version?
- pplog didn't run. i also could not open 'localhost' or '127.0.0.1'. Everything is "403" if i look at pprocess, hiawatha is running as 'nobody'. might that be the problem?

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#49 Post by ecomoney »

There are still a lot of bugs for a release candidate. Whats all the rush to release? Lets make sure we get it right first.
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#50 Post by davesurrey »

rc1 full install:
Bugs:

1. Select Desktop>Ptray utility bar.
Select either left or right tray.
Show tray, then hide tray.
Exit from Ptray utility bar.
A small Blinky window appears at top left corner.

Do (show tray, hide tray) several times to get several Blinky windows.

2. Pwidgets Weather.
Changed to my location (from accuweather website) in /root/.widgets/configs/Weather
Noted the code ended in MYLOCATION&metric=1.
Made sure /root/.pwidgets/scripts/WeatherIcon line-6 was set as 1 for Celsius.
Restarted x-server
Still have temperature displayed in fahrenheit.

3. Can I assume "PRINTING WORKS" means it will also work for a network printer?

Thanks
Dave

EDIT:
just changed the accuweather code it gave me by deleting "&metric=1" and celsius is now displayed.
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#51 Post by pa_mcclamrock »

ecomoney wrote:There are still a lot of bugs for a release candidate. Whats all the rush to release? Lets make sure we get it right first.
Hear, hear! In addition to the "CUPS-messing-up-permissions" bug I previously mentioned, here are a few things I think really need to be fixed before RC2 (I may find more as I continue to use RC1):

PETget still takes far too long on the "updating menus" stage when installing or uninstalling. (EDIT: For some reason, this appears to be true only before you create a pup_save file and reboot--which I just did. Then I installed a couple of .PETs, and "updating menus" only took a few seconds, as it should!)

PETget's instruction to "restart the window manager" (which there isn't any obvious way to do without restarting the X server) is still there, and it appears that you don't even really need to click "Refresh Menus" any more.

Restore "Restart IceWM" to the IceWM menu!

In SeaMonkey, the View --> Show/Hide menu has "Tab Bar" grayed out, which made me think maybe the tabbed browsing function was hacked out of the new SeaMonkey in a misguided effort to save space--until I saw that the tab bar will appear if you click File --> New --> Navigator Tab.
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#52 Post by pa_mcclamrock »

davesurrey wrote:Can I assume "PRINTING WORKS" means it will also work for a network printer?
No. Please try it out and report promptly if it doesn't work, especially (but not only) if you can get any idea why it doesn't work (e.g., CUPS messes up the permissions for the network printer connection).
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#53 Post by 01micko »

HELLO!!!!!

I don't really want ot yell but rtl8187 is still BROKEN. I think it was alpha3 when I reported it :cry:

Appears as 'r8187' when I do an lsmod.
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#54 Post by davesurrey »

@ pa_mcclamrock
Okay, I'll do the tests as soon as I can get the time.

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#55 Post by Minnesota »

See below... files from 4.1.2 and files for 4.2 RC for ipw2200 PCI Intel 2915ABG Network adapter on a Thinkpad R52.

Initial boot does not recognize the adapter. Attempted to load manually, ERROR message see below.

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ZD1211rw is recognized and works.
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#56 Post by straypup »

This is a known problem in linux in general. Tempestious has been working on it, but until something is done at kernel level, we have to live with patches or ndis. I know it is now more of a problem than before because the rtl 8187 driver is supported, but not the rtl8187b hope there will be a time this changes, but until then enjoy what we have and the community that goes with it. prior to the new wizard, I had no problems with saving network settings, now I have to reload each session. Is there a chance to get the latest patches in the Wizard, or maybe separate calls for 8187/8187b? Sorry , I can,t help more, bbut thanks.
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#57 Post by ttuuxxx »

pa_mcclamrock wrote:
ecomoney wrote:There are still a lot of bugs for a release candidate. Whats all the rush to release? Lets make sure we get it right first.
Hear, hear! In addition to the "CUPS-messing-up-permissions" bug I previously mentioned, here are a few things I think really need to be fixed before RC2 (I may find more as I continue to use RC1): <--- we are working on it.

PETget still takes far too long on the "updating menus" stage when installing or uninstalling. (EDIT: For some reason, this appears to be true only before you create a pup_save file and reboot--which I just did. Then I installed a couple of .PETs, and "updating menus" only took a few seconds, as it should!) <----Zigbert to the rescue ???

PETget's instruction to "restart the window manager" (which there isn't any obvious way to do without restarting the X server) is still there, and it appears that you don't even really need to click "Refresh Menus" any more. (Page 1 for the new pet, it now says 'Refresh menus' or 'Restart your window manager'.Jwm doesn't have the refresh menus yet.

Restore "Restart IceWM" to the IceWM menu! WHY? Refresh Menus's does that, it has no use, unless you fixmenus. Hence the refresh menus.

In SeaMonkey, the View --> Show/Hide menu has "Tab Bar" grayed out, which made me think maybe the tabbed browsing function was hacked out of the new SeaMonkey in a misguided effort to save space--until I saw that the tab bar will appear if you click File --> New --> Navigator Tab .<---- Did not touch that when I was compiling Seamonkey, best to complain to Mozilla itself. Its a Seamonkey issue, not a Puppylinux forum issue.
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#58 Post by ttuuxxx »

By The way, I also feel that we need to spend more time on issues and work them out. If anything I tried a few times to slow the push down for the next releases a few times, Well by the looks of things we should have this release for more than a week, so lets get working together shall we?.
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#59 Post by ttuuxxx »

[quote="pa_mcclamrock"][/quote]

Can you please reboot up clean puppy4.2 RC1 (puppy pfix=ram) and try this fix I put together, well basically I found a few things in a slackware release and plus I used 'Patriots' fix.
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Successful USB Boot with 4.2 RC?

#60 Post by jakfish »

Using unetbootin and XP and USB flash drive, I can make a bootable 4.2 BETA Puppy. I can not do the same with 4.2 RC.

When booting, I get a choice of Default or Puppy. Neither choice will boot.

Was my RC download faulty? Can anyone else replicate this error?

Jake

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