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#101 Post by ttuuxxx »

trapster wrote:- cpu running @ 100% with cupsd!!

- Pwidgets needs an option to shut it off if not (temporarily) wanted. The only thing I can find is "Clear list" but I don't really want to repopulate the list next time I want it.
Trapster If Zigbert doesn't give that option, I'll make a script to do. as for Cups at 100% I've been reading up on it and I'll look into it further. It has to do with cpu cycles.
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#102 Post by `f00 »

Just a note before I go to the shed (offline) for some tetsing - thanks to all for 'things to watch out for' (keep'em on archived pp, lol but they add up a bit)

p3.2 - an idea struck (maybe PG or someone could look into) about perhaps automating an initial backup, normally I'm never a fan of automation unless it works faultlessly .. but this is one of those things that bites users who may not know or care how the filesystem or layers work. Plus the urge to personalize/'fix' is one of those things that can be a blessing or curse depending on the user and their expectations. Backups are something that's pretty much a given, but how to implement so it works and yet is simple enough to be effective for Joe User? There's almost always something that can make a long drawn-out complex fix a judgement call on whether it's worthwhile or time to walk away.

p3.14 - Good to see someone finally fixed that fuzzy prawn :) but will Ice always have those odd _s in the mainmenu?

p4.6 - oya, a 'fig utility for Ice would be a considerable added value

fyi, 'blind operators' - http://www.prio.com/consumers/faq.cfm

p5.6 - @Lob', funny you mention that. Yep, there should be a toggle-off or 'tickler' for movies or other prolonged 'nonaction', but for most energy-conscious folk the default-off is a good thing. It's different for me on win32 since the .scr I use amuses the cat (priceless :D: )

report - older ATI 9200 and Rage vidcards fine

p6.5 - Have to agree with Dinky on many widget points (but "sex sells", of course and only fitting that it should unless it turns out to be a date that's a bit more pricey than value received .. ahh, value - it's a pervasive thing). What works for me is to use widget-exec rather than fixwidgets .. this also tends to make the few widgets I use work well in other wms with their own unique background schemes (AS and a minimally duded-up Blackbox on the last rc, not sure just what all I used in the 1st alpha).

@ Widgets-Crew, great product and I'm sure it will continue to be further enhanced as to efficiency and useability with other wms

p7.1 - pprocess (what, you didn't make your own conky-widget, Trap? :shock: )

.. someday maybe a 'n00Bz guyD 2 Wbar, Conky & other good stuff' ..

another vote for the 'Cadillac' of wallpapers :)

.. and now I shall retire to the shed for a bit - cya

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#103 Post by gerry »

Still can't get my printer (Canon i965) working via the Windows machine. Thanks, TheBlackSheep (good beer, that) for the hints- I thought I knew them all, but I had not thought of the smb.conf permissions. Not that it made any difference- every time I go through the motions of setting up the Windows printer, cups tells me that it has installed Local Raw Printer, whatever that is.

By the way- cups takes 2 minutes and 15 seconds to start in this incarnation, on my 600MHz cpu.

And those ****** widgets that everyone spends so much time on- they use up 14% of my precious ram between them- they would have to go!

So I may join Tronkel in a holiday with Debian 'til I calm down- but I'll be back when I get bored.

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#104 Post by trio »

Whodo
I think we should delete conky from start menu apps..we already have pwidgets

Gerry
If you hate pwidgets so much, don't use it! Some people do actually like it. Want to turn it off, see below

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There is actually an option for turning pwidgets off and not loosing your list. Save your profile and clear up list. Next time you need pwidgets, call your saved profile

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#105 Post by ttuuxxx »

trio wrote:Whodo
I think we should delete conky from start menu apps..we already have pwidgets

Gerry
If you hate pwidgets so much, don't use it! Some people do actually like it. Want to turn it off, see below

Trapster
There is actually an option for turning pwidgets off and not loosing your list. Save your profile and clear up list. Next time you need pwidgets, call your saved profile

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Yes but thats not good enough, if people don't want anything thing to do with pwidgets, then its a bit more than turning them off, we should have a backup of the original fixmenus, which was a heck of a lot quicker, and anything else which is slowing down their PC's and have it replaced back to the original state. Why should they have to wait long than they should ? I always figure conky or pwidgets should be off completely and if a user wants it, they click a link on the menu and it installs from file located say in root. And then it does all the changes, It wouldn't really take anymore space either.
I think pwidgets is great :) But I don't think everyone wants it and they shouldn't have wait for things like fixmenus.
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#106 Post by ttuuxxx »

Also as Pwidgets goes and puppy, well Puppy is an Australia Linux Operating System right? well it was upto 4.12, anyways why with Pwidgets when you use the World Clock you don't have any Australian times?? Like Sydney, man thats an oversight for sure.
also maybe London and Moscow
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#107 Post by trio »

Ttuuxxx

Well there's a way too, move show-widgets from /root/startup folder, and that will make your start up with no widgets

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#108 Post by esmourguit »

Bonjour,
Using Icewm, when I try to delete multiple selected files, in one directory, with the mouse in Rox-Filer window, I have to move the mouse cursor outside the button "Yes", then back on the button to delete the following file. This does not happen with JWM.
Another thing, how to have multiple virtual desktops?
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#109 Post by ttuuxxx »

trio wrote:Ttuuxxx

Well there's a way too, move show-widgets from /root/startup folder, and that will make your start up with no widgets
Na I don't have an issue with Pwidgets, I actually like them, I'm just sticking up for the people who don't want them. I can see there points and would like to give them the best possible solution. well if they don't want them, and we all agree that fixmenus is slower on 4.2 than 4.12 or any other puppy to date, then a simple revert back to the earlier fixmenus and a kill that script in startup should do it. that should be easy, I'll work it out tomorrow, its late tonight. :)
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#110 Post by trapster »

`f00 wrote:
p7.1 - pprocess (what, you didn't make your own conky-widget, Trap?)
Actually, I am a Gkrellm man :D
I do have a "homemade" conky I use with a calendar rss feeds and personal reminders from a program called http://www.lightandmatter.com/when/when.html[When

@ trio:
I missed the pwidgets profile :oops:
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#111 Post by ttuuxxx »

esmourguit wrote:Bonjour,
Using Icewm, when I try to delete multiple selected files, in one directory, with the mouse in Rox-Filer window, I have to move the mouse cursor outside the button "Yes", then back on the button to delete the following file. This does not happen with JWM.
Another thing, how to have multiple virtual desktops?
Cordialement ;)
Thats always been like that in icewm, nothing you can do about it, sorry. :?
to get your workspace numbers up first go to
/usr/share/icewm/preferences
right click and open it up as text
then click edit/search
and look for these two items
or manually scroll and find them and change them to what you see below
TaskBarShowWorkspaces=1 # 0/1
WorkspaceNames = " 1 ", " 2 "
that will give you 2 workspaces
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#112 Post by Minnesota »

Tested Printer Brother on Parallel port... works great, on Desktop machine. Tested Canon ip4300 on Laptop works great.

One minor issue... can the notice for User and Password be in the requested box already? If not please change to BRIGHT RED or BRIGHT BLUE... the information is easy to miss...

Having used the routine many time I did not have a problem... but a new user getting to the second screen will be lost...and probably take a long time to find out what he has to do. :)))).

I am not sure if this is a bug or just a normal issue.. I will load older versions and further test. But on my laptop if I select 640 x 480 x 24.... the X server reverts to 1400 x 1050 64H, 59 f.

On the desktop with different video it works as expected... and displays as 640 X 480. Remember others mentioning something similar, earlier in the tread.

I half followed the directions on renaming the r8180 directory.. renamed it r8180xxx.. tried the network wizard to let auto locate the correct driver... NO GO.... so manually searched.. but at the moment do not remember just what the correct drive is... Sorry, I just returned from long trip...so unorganized...and a bit sleep deprived as some of you :)... Anyway.. even restarted X... for me the wireless on the Thinkpad issue is still dead in the water....


THANKS for all the GOOD WORK.... IT IS LOOKING VERY GOOD, runs smooth, and is getting to be very fast and crisp.... GOOD JOB to ALL!!!!! :D

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#113 Post by ttuuxxx »

esmourguit wrote:Bonjour,
Using Icewm, when I try to delete multiple selected files, in one directory, with the mouse in Rox-Filer window, I have to move the mouse cursor outside the button "Yes", then back on the button to delete the following file. This does not happen with JWM.
Another thing, how to have multiple virtual desktops?
Cordialement ;)
Here I made 3 packages, just install the one you want 2,3,4 desktops :)
just refresh menus when finished
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#114 Post by zigbert »

To get it clear
fixmenus has NOTHING to do with Pwidgets.

What slows it down is that it builds symlinks in /root/my-applications/bin. This could better be a part of petget. - When installing a package, also add a symlink in /root/my-applications/bin. Be my guest.......


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#115 Post by ttuuxxx »

Here's a menu I put together tonight, comparing the flat orange and what the icewm only would look like by default,it wouldn't effect JWM menu at all.
I tried to keep some 'orange' around each, but tomorrow I'll make another just with different icons, the menu theme was 56kb extracted and 22kb compressed, not much bloat for all those icons. :)
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#116 Post by trapster »

- Great job on streamtuner, But...shouldn't we include streamripper if it's an option in streamtuner? Or, get rid of the button? Streamripper will be a addon in repo hopefully if WhoDo says its ok, So removing the button would stop the addon from working, if we had extra space it maybe would of been included. Or if zigbert would come onboard and help, he could modify his small script to work out of the box.
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#117 Post by ttuuxxx »

zigbert wrote:To get it clear
fixmenus has NOTHING to do with Pwidgets.

What slows it down is that it builds symlinks in /root/my-applications/bin. This could better be a part of petget. - When installing a package, also add a symlink in /root/my-applications/bin. Be my guest.......


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Shouldn't those system links being built be a part of the icon switcher, really isn't that the only time when they need to be built? so basically a icon switcher with its own fixmenus, and when users want to do a regular fixmenus menus because they installed just 1 program, they shouldn't have to wait for like 200 icons to be check and linked right, if they are already there, then why rebuild them? and like I said only if your changing icon themes should the user have to wait for those links.
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#118 Post by trapster »

ttuuxxx wrote:
Here's a menu I put together tonight, comparing the flat orange and what the icewm only would look like by default,it wouldn't effect JWM menu at all.
I don't prefer icewm but IMO, the menu looks a little too crowded with the icons stacked on top of each other.
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#119 Post by tasmod »

Wow, ttuuxxx, you really do need a lesson in diplomacy don't you?

I'm fully aware that the shutdown menu has been posted many times BUT assumed probably like everyone else that it would at least follow themes.

WorldTime had Sydney originally but was changed to Mickos Southport (to suit me) after Micko explained you upside down guys couldn't make your minds up about what time it was. What is it? Oh yes, 5-6 weeks and maybe time changes down there.

If you bothered to look in some of the pwidget configs you would see operational notes explaining how to change to whatever you require.

Me, I'll stick with GMT, we set it, we say so!!
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#120 Post by ttuuxxx »

trapster wrote:
- Great job on streamtuner, But...shouldn't we include streamripper if it's an option in streamtuner? Or, get rid of the button? Streamripper will be a addon in repo hopefully if WhoDo says its ok, So removing the button would stop the addon from working, if we had extra space it maybe would of been included. Or if zigbert would come onboard and help, he could modify his small script to work out of the box.
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streamripper is 109kb (+21kb for the Man page) compiled. I'm not sure what zigbert script you refer to. Don't you just point to streamripper in streamtuner's config file?
Zigbert made a small stream recorder, only a few kb, if he made that work with streamripper it would save maybe 90kb out of that small package, If we had the extra space stream ripper would be a nice option. You bug WhoDo , LOL
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