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Béèm


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PostPosted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 15:26    Post subject: This thread  

I can completely agree with Whodo's comment about bickering in this thread.
This thread is about bugs and fixes. In this case rc2. Nothing more nothing less. Period.
All other comment about wishes how things has to be done is out of line here.

Having said this, I feel there is a lack of another thread about wishes and rants or whatever.
There is a possibility of wish list on the Wikki, but a separate thread in projects might be more intuitive.


Hope that people gets their act together, so the project is not in danger and I wish Whodo lots of patience. But I think he took a good decision to act more as a 'dictator' then he was before.

This thread and previous bugs and fixes threads weren't actually fun to read/follow.

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 20:20    Post subject:  

Hey WhoDo heres your abiword, what a pain 3 times I had to start over, and when I mean that, basically erase my 18gig pupsave and basically restart, takes about 15mins, so its not that bad. Anyways
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/puppy420/RC2/abiwordfinal/
In that directory posted above are basically all the files needed,
I made abiword, plus extra, plus plugins,plus enchant all in one package. so that gets rid of 4 packages
next aiksaurus is a couple of kb smaller and has the missing .desktop file:)
Goffice is almost 100kb smaller compressed Smile
I recompiled lib jpeg to hope that it would stabilize the pictures better, I didn't strip it, sometimes when you strip.so they mess up, so I was thinking maybe thats what happened to it.

There's 2 link grammars, the small version is just the libs and no text, so it basically won't work, but it should stabilize the system somewhat. and the bigger one has all the text, Its not needed for the dictionary to function. We don't really need it either, maybe just the libs, anyways most of these packages are smaller than the originals, so it should be very close in size. If you want to read up on link grammer, here's a link
http://www.abisource.com/projects/link-grammar/
Next I'll work on the shutdown and email.
take care and feel better WhoDo
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PostPosted: Thu 12 Mar 2009, 07:36    Post subject:  

WhoDo wrote:
1. I have RC3 all but ready to release. Apart from one or two program updates and bug fixes, the only significant change will be the inclusion of pa_mcclamrock's Remaster Express (RemaX).

I just need a little more time for debugging . . . let's see how I'm doing by tomorrow, OK? Very Happy

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I am tired of people ignoring forum etiquette in MY threads! [ . . . ] I will NOT have people criticising members of the development team, or their work, in personal terms ... not even OTHER members of the development team. That stops NOW!

Hear, hear! But, just in case it doesn't, please give serious consideration to ejecting the offenders, not to walking out yourself. Get well soon!

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Mar 2009, 07:48    Post subject:  

WhoDo

Glad you made 'that' post.

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Mar 2009, 07:55    Post subject:  

pa_mcclamrock wrote:
WhoDo wrote:
1. I have RC3 all but ready to release. Apart from one or two program updates and bug fixes, the only significant change will be the inclusion of pa_mcclamrock's Remaster Express (RemaX).

I just need a little more time for debugging . . . let's see how I'm doing by tomorrow, OK? Very Happy

Good news!Cool Hmmmm.... Black Friday release .... Shocked I was wondering when I'd hear from you, David. FWIW I don't have the power to eject anyone but myself ... hence my "choice" of that "option". Wink

@01micko - seems to have slowed the pace of this thread a little, too! Surprised

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Mar 2009, 08:06    Post subject:  

WhoDo wrote:
pa_mcclamrock wrote:
WhoDo wrote:
1. I have RC3 all but ready to release. Apart from one or two program updates and bug fixes, the only significant change will be the inclusion of pa_mcclamrock's Remaster Express (RemaX).

I just need a little more time for debugging . . . let's see how I'm doing by tomorrow, OK? Very Happy

Good news!Cool Hmmmm.... Black Friday release .... Shocked I was wondering when I'd hear from you, David. FWIW I don't have the power to eject anyone but myself ... hence my "choice" of that "option". Wink

@01micko - seems to have slowed the pace of this thread a little, too! Surprised

Cheers


I'm still here Smile I think we should stick with email we have now, For some reason it won't compile with ssl, I even recompiled openssl and still nothing, strange, but I tried the latest Sylpheed compiled with ssl no problem, if you want to toss the html and go with Sylpheed, I'm fine with that and could have it packaged in a matter of minutes.
As for that shutdown the system and exit to prompt or restart with the current window manager, I looked at that code and welllllllll, Its way over my head, If we only had HarryWill still with us, He probably could do that in a blink.
oh well, anything else you want WhoDo? I just started compiling vlc9.8
only another 20 or so left to compile Smile
I could take a break if you have some more pressing issues at hand?
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PostPosted: Thu 12 Mar 2009, 08:22    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
I'm still here Smile I think we should stick with email we have now, For some reason it won't compile with ssl, I even recompiled openssl and still nothing, strange, but I tried the latest Sylpheed compiled with ssl no problem, if you want to toss the html and go with Sylpheed, I'm fine with that and could have it packaged in a matter of minutes.

Sylpheed is in the repository, so I'm also inclined to stick with Claws for this release. How much do we lose by going to the full Seamonkey suite with mail/news?

ttuuxxx wrote:
As for that shutdown the system and exit to prompt or restart with the current window manager, I looked at that code and welllllllll, Its way over my head, If we only had HarryWill still with us, He probably could do that in a blink.

Yeah, I took a quick look before posting my response and it looked like something for one of the core devs rather than a hacker like me, too!

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I could take a break if you have some more pressing issues at hand?

Thanks, Jeff, but I think we're on track right now. CUPS is working, wireless is working, pa_mcclamrock is working ... and all is right with the world! Razz

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Mar 2009, 08:51    Post subject:  

Hi WhoDo this is the typical difference in size posted by Barry on one of his Blogs


Browser, Mail&News, Composer: 10095KB
Browser, Composer: 7592KB
Browser only: 7328KB

So to answer your question around 2.5MB compressed, around 2MB compressed more than Claws.
So I just don't think thats an option, Also did you get the abiword and extras? its pretty good with the templates, they only take an extra 25kb but to offer things like resume, fax cover letters, business letters etc, I think its well worth the 25kb? Roughly I think everything combined is around 100kb +/- which is really good with openxml format, Thats goig to make a heck of a lot of users happy. If we could figure out the mime for it, that also would be good.
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PostPosted: Thu 12 Mar 2009, 11:30    Post subject:  

Tried rc2 on an Eeepc
Universal Installer - followed instructions - very easy

Boot up on Eeepc and set up no problem.
Connecting to the Internet?
Not with w-ifi
Only TigerPup (that I know of) has the modified wi-fi driver for the Eeepc.
So had to use ethernet . . .

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Mar 2009, 11:34    Post subject:  

Lobster wrote:
Tried rc2 on an Eeepc
Universal Installer - followed instructions - very easy

Boot up on Eeepc and set up no problem.
Connecting to the Internet?
Not with w-ifi
Only TigerPup (that I know of) has the modified wi-fi driver for the Eeepc.
So had to use ethernet . . .

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anyway we can get that driver in puppy 4.2? is it big? Would be a bonus for all eeepc users.
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PostPosted: Thu 12 Mar 2009, 12:26    Post subject:  

[url]anyway we can get that driver in puppy 4.2? is it big?[/url]

PM dinky or Tempestuous or do a forum search for it . . .
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PostPosted: Thu 12 Mar 2009, 12:33    Post subject:  

Lobster wrote:
[url]anyway we can get that driver in puppy 4.2? is it big?[/url]

PM dinky or Tempestuous or do a forum search for it . . .
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You didn't just say that to me did you? LOL what do you think I'm a newbeeeeeeeeeeeee on here, lol Lobster most would go as far giving a link or even better uploading the file on here. lol
ok thats for the tip, lol
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PostPosted: Thu 12 Mar 2009, 16:34    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
Hi WhoDo this is the typical difference in size posted by Barry on one of his Blogs


Browser, Mail&News, Composer: 10095KB
Browser, Composer: 7592KB
Browser only: 7328KB

So to answer your question around 2.5MB compressed, around 2MB compressed more than Claws.

That pretty much leaves us with Claws mail then. I'd still appreciate it if you would compile the full suite so I can put that on ibiblio.org for download by all of those users who want to stick with Seamonkey mail, if you don't mind doing that.
ttuuxxx wrote:
Also did you get the abiword and extras?

Got it, packaged it in a pre-release and tested. This time I have access to the clipart manager as well, so that's a positive. I still can't get spell checking in either spell as you go or manual versions, but since I'm the only one who apparently has that problem I'll let it go for now. I haven't tried the templates, although I did notice their presence. I'll try them later today. I'm also going to update Flash to the latest iteration of the 9.x series to ensure we remain relatively secure from known vulnerabilities.

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Mar 2009, 16:39    Post subject:  

Lobster wrote:
Tried rc2 on an Eeepc
Universal Installer - followed instructions - very easy

Boot up on Eeepc and set up no problem.
Connecting to the Internet?
Not with w-ifi
Only TigerPup (that I know of) has the modified wi-fi driver for the Eeepc.
So had to use ethernet . . .

I'm glad you trialled the PUI, Lob. That has been upgraded to Dougal's latest and I haven't heard any complaints or issues so it looks like it's a good inclusion.

The Eeepc drivers were the drivers I included from tempestuous' Extra's thread that ended up breaking wireless for everyone else, so they've been left out of the next release. At least ordinary wireless users will have the connections back for RC3. Eeepc users will have to manually install from tempestuous' thread, unfortunately.

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Mar 2009, 16:49    Post subject: RC2 on EeePC  

WiFi worked out of the box for me on a EeePC901 using a frugal Rc2 install on a USB stick as I reported earlier in this thread. Which Eee did you try?

Mike

Lobster wrote:
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Connecting to the Internet?
Not with w-ifi .

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