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nutts4life · Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 263 Location: UK

All new eeZos 0.6 is released! - http://puppylinux.ca/members/eeZos/

Take a look a the eeZos web site: http://www.eezos.com/
And the new wiki, with roadmap! : http://www.eezos.com/wiki/doku.php?id=road_map

eeZos is designed to make full use of the concept of online cloud computing. The idea is that you can access your data from anywhere in the world and from any PC you choose.

It's tightly integrated with the eyeOS web Operating system allowing you to just take this puplet with you on a USB stick and access your online OS from anywhere.

This OS will be released to the eyeOS community next week. My belief is that a good relationship with a webOS may be important for future of puppy.

There are few design features of eeZos that might get the taste buds buddying.

The eeZos control panel:
This was inspired by the wolvix distro's control panel and is an integration of the puppy wizards, popular puppy utilities and XFCE configuration functions.

2 UI's to choose from:
eeZos allows you to choose whether to use a mini PC like interface (using lxlauncher) or a normal PC interface ( using XFCE desktop and cairo-dock)

eyeOS synchronization:
eyeSync is installed which allows you to synchronise your local files with your remote eyeOS files. The preferences in eyeSync then allow you to directly access your webOS from the menu.

The WebOS:
The default setup of eeZos points to my own installation of eyeOS. You can log in using the username: test pwd: test123.
This is only a high level example of what eyeOS can do.
To get a eyeOS account for FREE and check out the full eyeOS functionality goto: http://eyeos.org/en/

Hotpup xdg
I've modified hotpup so that instaed of putting an icon on the desktop it places an icon into the xdg menu under devices. This allows you to access devices from both user interface modes.

Technical stuff:
- based on puppy 4.1.2
- added 24 sfs fix
- Uses xfdesktop, lxlauncher, xfce-panel and xfce4-session
- pebble 1.0 provides startup screen
- firefox 3.0.5 with adblock, flashblock and menu hide.
- thunar is the chosen file manager
- Mplayer with full codecs and smplayer
- openVPN with gopenvpn interface
- Selection of popular fonts

Local applications:
http://www.eezos.com/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=6&Itemid=
eeZos only features a media player and web browser by default as, the idea is that, all other apps are provided online; through eyeOS.
A series of sfs files are provided here to allow you to add a set of integrated local applications:

- Office: abiword and gnumeric + most plugins
- Mail: claws with most plugins
- Image viewer: Gthumb OR fotoxx (with printoxx)
- Chat: Pidgin or Skype 2.0

NOTE: I will be updating this thread with more and more details as time goes by.

Thanks to all the community for your great help with everything...as always.

n4l

Known Issues:
- The puppy event manager seems to stop recognising devices after startup. Please use the pmount utility to mount drives. - Fixed in 0.6
- alsawizard kills all programs including the dock. - Fixed in 0.6

Sage · Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 4638 Location: GB

Something wrong here. Just closing down today, perhaps some can check the md5?
As you were - bad d/l.
Interesting. Nice piece of work. However, the clouds are not for me. There is a hidden agenda with this notion, just beginning to appear. Think M$, think America, think crooked businesses! They want you to sign up for a direct debit. Once you do so, you're hooked. There is no need for this with Linux. Discs and SSS are getting bigger and more reliable. It is incumbent upon users to maintain their valuables, not stick them in the nearest skip when they stop working. There are sharks circling out there all the time and it's your dosh they're after. Get clued up, get smart and get your head outa da clouds....

nutts4life · Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 263 Location: UK

Sage,

Thanks for your positive comments. I agree with you with cloud computing and that's why i like eyeos.

eyeos is open source, meaning you can install it yourself on your own hosting account. That means it's you data just sitting on your space... but it's online. OK... it's not true cloud computing, but it gives you all the benefits of being able to access you data from anywhere, under your control.

Thanks again,

n4l

Sage · Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 4638 Location: GB

Well, yes, but...
....unless you own the servers, you're still open to exploitation. Notwithstanding, we are all vulnerable vis-a-vis our ISP, but if they're storing our preferred OS configs and apps, too, it won't be long before those extra charges begin appearing on our bills. Either that, or we'll be paying for the privilege by having aspects of our preferences being sold, along the lines of those nasty little small print phrases with which we are all too familiar.

growler · Posted: Wed 07 Jan 2009, 22:13 Post subject: Hosted on a Puppy server

Sage · Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 4638 Location: GB

It has been feasible to run your own server for some while. All you need is a bank or two of scsi RAID drives and an old box! However, the complexity and cost is beyond most SOHOs; large corporations make their own arrangements. Apart from which, I don't believe our friend nuttie and his colleagues are either going to make the (common!) mistake of believing there's a business opportunity here or be able to spread himself/themselves widely enough.

This thread truncated by common consent and discussion kindly expanded by n4l here:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=264103#264103

nutts4life · Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 263 Location: UK

First of all, i'm happy to keep this discussion going, but let's keep this from this puplet thread, it is the wrong place for it.

I have created this thread to continue this discussion:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=264068#264068

nutts4life · Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 263 Location: UK

I received this question from a user, i want to post it as it has alot of interesting points.

hello !

i've just tested your new eezos on eeepc
looks very nice ( i prefer lxlauncher more Very Happy )
is it possible to suggest something ?

i've noticed that you have MS fonts in iso. I always install them into my pupsave2fs, but i think they are not free to be included on CD( just for downloading)
also i think it would be nice to have composite effects for xfwm4( it's very simple to do, see here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=27974&search_id=1956093409&start=30) if used with cairo-dock
and i would like to add some more plugins to xfce4-panel, but standard xfce-control center does not allow to do it although there many applets as i noticed
i i found some config files in /etc/xdg for panel and desktop

is it posiible to add other entries to lxlauncher?

it the first time i used smplayer
do you have a pet for it( i would like to use it in normal puppy also)
is it static or dynamic linked to qt4?

thank you for such a nice pupplet

nutts4life · Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 263 Location: UK

Here some answers:

nutts4life · Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 263 Location: UK

eeZos 0.6 is now released.

It removes the cairo-dock, fixes a few issues and simplifies the whole experience further.

Enjoy!

PS. I'm away from a PC next week. I'll be back on the forums after that.

eztuxer · Joined: 06 Nov 2008 Posts: 461 Location: Belgium

thane · Posted: Thu 26 Mar 2009, 15:38 Post subject:

Hi, this is my first post.

In the last week I've downloaded both Puppy Linux 4.1.2 and the eeZos_0_6 puplet. The box I'm using has a read-only CD drive and an old version of Windows on the hard drive, so I'm booting off the CD and using a USB flash memory stick for the system save. I mostly do web surfing so this is working out fine.

The 4.1.2 runs totally in RAM which is what I want. However when I tried running eeZos it didn't (as far as I can recall) give me the option of copying any system files to the USB stick or to RAM. So it's constantly going back to the CD for those files. It does write the save file to the USB stick so it knows the stick is there.

Did I miss something at some point in the installation? I'd appreciate any help you can give me, even if it's calling me an idiot and pointing me to a different forum. Thanks.

thane · Posted: Sat 28 Mar 2009, 14:23 Post subject:

OK, I copied over the 412 system file manually to the USB stick, so it's not hitting the CD ROM drive after booting now.

Lobster · Posted: Sun 29 Mar 2009, 12:34 Post subject:

Puppy should be in the clouds too
make use of this too (it will be used by Tiny Core Linux too I believe)
http://pupweb.org/desktop/

Imagine a browser (probably Chrome) in firmware
and Google ad sponsored cloud services
It is coming

We will move into the cloud
Whoever controls the cloud - will have the reins (so to speak)

I agree with Sage short term but long term
the idea of a personal desktop computer will seem archaic

The Cloud is the start of the Grid
the Grid is the start of Quantum computing
then we will have AI/human hybrids

Whatever next?
http://www.techradar.com/news/computing/fast-forward-your-pc-over-the-next-50-years-588536?artc_pg=1

thane · Posted: Sun 29 Mar 2009, 14:32 Post subject:

I'm fooling around with both eeZos and 4.2 (mainly just running the browser to Google) to see how well a sort of pseudo-cloud computing really suits me. So far I think the more open Google (or whoever) model may be better than the Eye OS virtual desktop idea, but I plan to keep working with both for a while. Of course 4.2 has a lot of desktop apps and (confession) I have another PC running Windows, so even if the Cloud doesn't work out it's not a disaster.