Puppy 4.2 "Deep Thought" - Bugs & Fixes

[trio]

Not sure what the idea with the calendar with black numbers on dark part of desktop screen. On my old lcd screen with my old eyes, I CANNOT see the numbers. I had to create a png background that is bright yellow in order to see the white days and the little black numbers. Can the calendar widget be easily modified some way from some menu or config file so I can determine what colors of numbers should be?

Hi,

go to menu -- desktop -- pwidgets -- plugins -- theme
choose which color theme suits best for your eyes

another one is the Today widget, which will show only today's date (off course) with BIGGER numbers, should suit your eyes better

Cheers

[trio]

I just want to say that I also have multiple 4.2 frugal installations on the same partition. What might not be generally known is there is code and a new parameter, psubok=TRUE, in Init (Thanks to Crash) that works with psubdir to really zero in on the subdirectory that contains the puppy files. This is documented in these two threads.:


http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=38030

and

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=36703

I use these parameters plus PDEV1= which specifies the partition and really cuts down on the search time. Here is part of my menu.lst file:

Code: Select all

title Puppy 4.20
fallback 6
rootnoverify (hd0,4)
kernel /Puppy420/vmlinuz pmedia=idehd pdev1=sda5 psubok=TRUE psubdir=/Puppy420
initrd /Puppy420/initrd.gz

Hope this helps.....

Jay

Hey, Thanks!
Is 4.2 capable of this? Did I miss something (I don't know this)? This should be a great feature and should be stated somewhere easily noticeable for users to see

[Grenville Grimace]

Gxine gives a fatal error - segmentation fault when it's launched.
SeaMonkey exits if you try to download a file with 'Save it to disk'.

(Edit) Sorry, please ignore.
Looks like my SD card install was corrupted.
A quick format and clean new install fixed everything.

[jayargent]

@Trio Yes, that code is included for the first time in the 4.2 Init. and I agree it should probably be documented more prominently.

[vanchutr]

@himagin
Thank you very much
Follow to your post, I'd made SCIM run in Puppy 420Final

[mawebb88]

I have lost Blnky! I stupidly made the mistake of on the right click options hiding both of my interfaces and now I would like to get the WiFi one back but can't figure out how to as Blinky has gone as one would expect. I searched for a configuration file eg. /root/.blinky but this lists (CSV) both interfaces but could not find where the hide option is stored?

Rgds Mike

Well, you should get blinky back after reboot

No joy after many re-boots still no Blinky using JWM. Any other suggestions? BTW I have already installed the official jwmtrayfix patch.

Thanks

[trio]

I have lost Blnky! I stupidly made the mistake of on the right click options hiding both of my interfaces and now I would like to get the WiFi one back but can't figure out how to as Blinky has gone as one would expect. I searched for a configuration file eg. /root/.blinky but this lists (CSV) both interfaces but could not find where the hide option is stored?

Rgds Mike

Well, you should get blinky back after reboot

No joy after many re-boots still no Blinky using JWM. Any other suggestions? BTW I have already installed the official jwmtrayfix patch.

Thanks

install again from the official site jwmtray_patch_update and reboot. If problem still persists pls report again

[oztules]

Ok,
The problem may be more deeply rooted than thought. It seems that the pcmcia card actually gets powered off (lights go out), and then the shutdown program hangs.

Once again, if we force shutdown, It won't boot, and stalls with a #prompt. xwin gets puppy going, but no pcmcia modem (ttyUSB0).

Dmesg shown that it is not there. Removing and replacing the card does nothing. Dmesg does not see it.....In this state shut down can be properly effected.

Once shut down, it boots properly, with the card registered and running properly.

Pprocess seems to indicate that pccardd runs the show, as when I monitor the running process, I can see pccardd come to the top of the processes for a few seconds when I remove and replace the card.

However, if I remove the card it still shuts down normally, and as it seems to turn off the lights on the card, I guess it may be involved with something else.

What I have found, is if I let it hang and force shutdown, it starts next time to prompt and xwin to puppy... but these lines are missing in the process screen
SW<[pccardd]
SW<[ksuspend_usbd]
SW<[khubd]
SW<[kmapmd]
S syslogd-m0
S klogd
SW<[pccardd]

I am having difficulty trying to work out how the rc shutdown script works... mostly geared to saving the puppy file, struggling to see how it shuts down services...

Frustrating grizzle.........
It is disappointing that the startup and shut down is so fragile when not using it as a cd install/play thing. It is ready for serious desktop/laptop work, but hard to see how it can, if it is so easily stopped from booting up any time there is a poor shutdown. Maybe time to reconsider this puppy file business, and use that only for cd installations where it's frailties can't corrupt the cd files, and use a different reliable / robust system for the HD install.

It would seem that puppy is only as good as it's last shutdown....very sad indeed.

whimper whimper

[BarryK]

This is a message to all the developer guys who contributed packages to 4.2.

Please read my recent blog posts, at puppylinux.com/blog

I will be uploading a "fixed" Unleashed core tarball later tonight, with a modified 'packages.txt' file. My request is that developers examine the entry(s) in that file for the package(s) that they contributed, and fill in all the fields, maybe post them somewhere
-- perhaps a new thread is needed for this.

The problem with the packages.txt file in 4.2 is that many of the package entries are missing everything except the package name, so when they list in the package manager, no information is displayed about them.

It would be good if filling in packages.txt could be a project for 4.2.1.

[trio]

Whodo

Just a thought, now that .xinitrc doesn't contain fixPuppyPin (commented out), maybe you can put the trash & lock icons on the left screen side with the rest of the icons as default (4.2.1)?

[WhoDo]

Just a thought, now that .xinitrc doesn't contain fixPuppyPin (commented out), maybe you can put the trash & lock icons on the left screen side with the rest of the icons as default (4.2.1)?

May be ...

[mouldy]

Hi,

go to menu -- desktop -- pwidgets -- plugins -- theme
choose which color theme suits best for your eyes

another one is the Today widget, which will show only today's date (off course) with BIGGER numbers, should suit your eyes better

Cheers

Thanks, I also found how to access the configuration file for calendar so could change actual color of the letters and numbers displayed.



As to my dialup problems, seems I've narrowed it down. Nothing to do with wvdial or pupdial frontend. Problem is in the ch341 module. Module is installed and lets me dial out but but somehow doesnt let the modem communicate with the isp modem. The isp modem just knows it received a call but nobody talking.

So ch341 module is faulty as this cable works fine in Puppy 4.00 with the 2.6.25 kernel with supposedly same module.

As to shutdown, who knows, I booted from cd again and this time it shutdown flawlessly though I prefer it to directly shut down, not having the two step microsoft "are you really, really, really sure" procedure.

One weird thing, seems random whether icons show or not when booting from cd. I get error message that pinboard not found when it doesnt show icons. Oddly not having icons doesnt bother me that much.

[mawebb88]

Well, you should get blinky back after reboot

No joy after many re-boots still no Blinky using JWM. Any other suggestions? BTW I have already installed the official jwmtrayfix patch.

Thanks

install again from the official site jwmtray_patch_update and reboot. If problem still persists pls report again

Downloaded again jwmtraypatch_update.pet from:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=40537

Re-installed it. Re-booted. Still no joy with Blinky returning although the other tray items are now corrected compared with 4.2 out of the box where some were cut in half.(see screen shot of latest situation)

Thnx

[ICPUG]

jayargent, trio

I think psubdir is the key parameter that allows multiple puplets in different subdirectories. Without that then Puppy just finds the first pup_420.sfs which sounds like what happened to trio. The psubdir parameter has been working since 3.0.1.

The psubok parameter makes puppy search directly for the psubdir directory. Previously he searched everywhere on the device and then filtered the results to only consider the files in the psubdir directory. This could be a lengthy process and psubok is a brilliant improvement - thanks Crash. Thanks for the reminder jayargent.

beem

I wish I understood why you have to copy your files to /mnt/home and why its different in 4.2. I don't do any copying in 4.2. Surely /mnt/home does not exist until Puppy is up and running so how can you copy an sfs file there before boot??

All

Documentation is always a problem in the Linux world. We need some stuff on the new features. The boot code documentation has not been updated for ages and now needs to include the new parameters.

Something on Pwidgets would be nice too. I managed to disable the left tray and spent quite some time trying to find out how to bring it back again - OK, I wiped my pupsave file and started again the first time!

[trio]

mawebb88

aaah, the patch is actually working correctly, the problem is your blinky config! you did say you "managed" to make it disappear by using the options right? just find /root/.blinky and delete it! reboot and please report back the success story...

[ttuuxxx]

hi WhoDo ummm cough cough ....
Just found out xsane isn't working due to the upgrade so it can use gimp, the reason well, it needs gimp to work and tiff5, So the best thing for people to do is either use 0.9.9.5-patched1 from pet get package manager/repo or install the pet below I compiled, whish I would of knew that a few hours ago before I made the update, grrrrrrrrr
ttuuxxx
Ps sorry I didn't know it wasn't going to work without gimp installed

[Irihapeti]

I tried installing the scim and scim-bridge packages from puppylinux.ca. I also tried compiling from source. In neither case can I get scim to enable non-latin input. I can load the scim daemon, but it won't actually do anything when I load a program such as Geany. The scim packages still work in 4.1.2, so I'm guessing that something has changed in the way the configuration files are organised.

Maybe this isn't a bug and I just need to do the configuration files differently. If this is the case, I'd appreciate being told how.

I'm using the retro kernel version of 4.2, by the way.

Irihapeti

[Keef]

On booting up, I've found that the LCD screen starts off ok then gradually gets brighter and brighter. I can turn it down with the designated keys on the laptop, but anyone know why this should happen?

Dell D610
1.7 ghz
512mb RAM
Frugal install.


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"Pwidgets Ate My Hamster"

[mawebb88]

mawebb88

aaah, the patch is actually working correctly, the problem is your blinky config! you did say you "managed" to make it disappear by using the options right? just find /root/.blinky and delete it! reboot and please report back the success story...

Brilliant! Its back as you said it would be. Many thanks. Now to get printing to my Cannon i250 working.

Rgds Mike

[panzerpuppy]

Here's a tricky question for you:

I have an older Puppy 4.12 (which uses the old the hd? naming scheme for the drives) and 5 partitions on the hard drive: hda1,hda5,hda6,hda7 and hda8.
The first 4 are FAT32,and the last one (hda8) is EXT3.

I have GRUB installed on hda1 (FAT32) so I can select Puppy from the WinXP boot menu.

How should I set up the menu.lst in GRUB to boot frugally from hda8?

If I specify the partition as (hd0,4) or (hd0,7) ,I get an Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition