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Nathan F · Posted: Sun 26 Apr 2009, 13:42 Post subject: Who's in charge?

Well I've been out of the loop for a long time now and truth be told I haven't even ran any recent Puppy releases since about just before Puppy 4? Anyway, I've been looking around on the forum today and saw a lot of s*&%, but I can't seem to figure out from what I've read what exactly is going on with Puppy lately.

So, my questions are as follows (in order of importance to me) -

1) Is Warren still coordinating, or is his retirement official?

2) What should I download if I want to try the latest and greatest?

3) What direction is development heading, do we still have a distro that "just works" or not, and if not then what is the release schedule (if any) and goals for the next release, one after that, etc. Feel free to point me to where it may already be written down, just so long as I'm not forced to read through 25 pages of extraneous bull$^&t before I can make any sense of it.

4) Now, in case anyone hasn't picked up on it yet, I'm a bit pissed about some of what I already read this morning. There are a number of people acting like babies here IMO and I see a lot of caustic, personally demeaning comments that I don't see any reason for. The question is, how long has this sort of thing been going on and is there any reason to believe it might end at some point?

I applaud Pizzasgood for locking one extremely nasty and non-productive thread. I also applaud his decision not to delete it. I sincerely hope that he doesn't have to repeat that action, but I've seen more of the same in several other threads so I imagine he will.

Cheers people,
Nathan

raffy · Joined: 25 May 2005 Posts: 4636 Location: Manila

Great to see you again, Nathan.

You can see development better via Barry's blog at puppylinux.com/blog
He is doing a woofathon with Ubuntupup (upup).

At the moment Warren is finishing with 4.2:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=41415&start=60

Elsewhere, people are experimenting with new-kernel builds: wow with ultrapup (unnamed puplet), kirk with fatdog, Mark with newyearspup.

Maybe Woof (new way of building Puppy) will also lead to this new-kernel way of building the Puppy. IMHO, it is a way of coping with new hardware without bothering much with many additional driver modules.

Right now am typing this in the eee using kernel 2.6.29 posted by Mark.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=41654

Hmm, so the banter has been noticeable? You've come back at the right time!

Nathan F · Posted: Sun 26 Apr 2009, 15:44 Post subject:

Well don't count on me being back actually. I'm just a user these days, albeit one who cares and knows a bit. But I have way too many challenges right now to contribute in any meaningful way.

Thanks for the replies. Thanks to Mark, too, not sure where his reply went though. I may try the release Warren puts out then. I've been updating my own system by compiling source packages for a long time now, but it's about time to replace the core. My glibc and such are a couple years old now. I just want to do a HD install with something current but small (Puppy always fit the bill nicely) so I can start over without starting from scratch. Laughing

Nathan

01micko · Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 7017 Location: qld

Hello

4.21 is due out soon Cool

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Some fun thoughts being thrashed about here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=299153#top

Woof is fun too, if you have the time.... it takes about 4 or 5 hours to build, or you can get BK's latest "upup", based on Jaunty.

Cheers

Mick

Pizzasgood · Posted: Sun 26 Apr 2009, 16:55 Post subject:

You didn't see MU's reply this time because you double-posted this thread and he posted in the other one.

Normally when I catch a duplicate before it's had replies I can just remove one. This time I'll have to leave the other one, but to avoid confusion I'll lock it and add a link in each thread to the other.

Discussion will continue here.

The duplicate is over here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=41669

Pizzasgood · Posted: Sun 26 Apr 2009, 17:20 Post subject:

Nathan F · Posted: Sun 26 Apr 2009, 18:21 Post subject:

ttuuxxx · Posted: Sun 26 Apr 2009, 20:00 Post subject:

ecomoney · Posted: Sun 26 Apr 2009, 21:06 Post subject:

Yes, undocumented and UNTESTED changes in Abiword. Its been up for a month and hasnt been fixed yet. Puppy is a top ten distro now (it was about 20th when you left?), and there is a lot of people coming over from XP now support for it has dropped...hence me making a big deal of it (I did the work in the £30 cybercafe so I see the effects IRL). Still, Im sorry I came across how I did, however provoked...but Im not sorry for speaking up about it.....Ive seen a bit of the world too.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=40845

Weve done a bit of thinking as to how it can be avoided in future...PG has already done some of the forum groundwork for this (the "bugs" section in "current puppy development") etc. Hopefully everyone is a little bit wiser I know I am. Happily, myself and Ttuxxx have had a more productive working relationship of late.

Weve also figured out that Puppy is green.

ttuuxxx · Posted: Sun 26 Apr 2009, 21:14 Post subject:

Lobster · Posted: Mon 27 Apr 2009, 04:50 Post subject:

trio · Posted: Mon 27 Apr 2009, 05:35 Post subject:

if we go back to "who will be in charge" ..then..should there be a thread about it? or already? where?

ttuuxxx · Posted: Mon 27 Apr 2009, 05:44 Post subject:

trio · Posted: Mon 27 Apr 2009, 06:00 Post subject:

Billwho? · Posted: Mon 27 Apr 2009, 06:15 Post subject:

@Trio
The only problem with electing our leader is that then we will get a politician, and they can't be trusted.