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#1 Post by Lobster »

I am using the new Austrumi which I downloaded from distrowatch. It's nice. Very nice. I much prefer this to DSL. Hey DSL must be doing something right, DSL is very popular. Austrumi is (in part) geared towards sniffing out networks but also contains apache, inkscape and Gimp and looks and feels very much like Puppy - not a bad thing. It has a better interface because of the icon set. When you boot up (I used the version with Opera - there is also a version with firefox and flash) you are presented with a menu in Latvian. Oy Vey Carumba (my only Latvian)

Do not Panic!

Go to control panel - ah English . . .

Sound was not working (which is a shame as it has 3 radio stations on the menu . . . ) but connecting to the internet was easy.

Now I was gonna say hang on and wait a couple of days for the new Pup.

However if you can not wait - this should keep you going for a couple of days.

At the moment "The Linux Latvians" are contemplating whether to use Firefox with flash or Opera with something or other (forget what)


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PS. John Murga has kindly promoted me to "Official Cructacean" for this forum which is probably a great honour . . .
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#2 Post by JohnMurga »

Still prefer puppy ;-)

Barry had mentioned that he had trouble building Gnumeric because of Gnome dependencies. But I noticed that Austrumni has it, I wonder how they built it ... I'll have to take a look.

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JohnMurga wrote:Still prefer puppy ;-)

Barry had mentioned that he had trouble building Gnumeric because of Gnome dependencies. But I noticed that Austrumni has it, I wonder how they built it ... I'll have to take a look.

Cheers
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PS - Lobster, it is an honour ! You are like the crab in the "Little Mermaid" ;-)
I havent tried new Austrumi, but as I posted while back, I did copy the binary and gnome libraries necessary to get Gnumeric off Austrumi and working with Puppy. The Austrumi Gnumeric does make few compromises, but it works for what I wanted to use it. Austrumi is fine effort. Some important things being in Latvian only and the difficulties I had with its dialer and hardrive install script made me sort of set it aside after I grabbed some of its goodies first though to use in Puppy.

I had promised to make up a tar ball of everything needed to run Gnumeric on Puppy, but first my hardrive that I had Puppy with Gnumeric on goes kaput then other events in my life. I still will do it, just have to start from scratch again. This time I will also make detailed notes on files necessary. I'd like to have Gnumeric back on this install of Puppy anyways.

Now one thing maybe somebody here can help with. I wanted the chess game from Austrumi. Well the binary for the commandline part of it is easy and works fine. The board is separate and called xboard. I got it working to point where it complains the fonts it wants cant be found and it aborts. I messed with it quite a bit and cant figure where it is looking for these fonts at. Anybody knows, please post or pm or whatever.

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#4 Post by JohnMurga »

Now one thing maybe somebody here can help with. I wanted the chess game from Austrumi. Well the binary for the commandline part of it is easy and works fine. The board is separate and called xboard. I got it working to point where it complains the fonts it wants cant be found and it aborts. I messed with it quite a bit and cant figure where it is looking for these fonts at. Anybody knows, please post or pm or whatever.
They have GUI chess game ?

Right, tonight I am definitely trying to get that accross ;-)

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This is tarball of files I grabbed off Austrumi Linux in order to get Gnumeric running on Puppy along with text file of short instructions. It works for what I use it for, but not guarenteed to be perfect.

Oops, too big. Its around 2.9mb and just noticed limit to attach here is 1mb. Guess I'll have to see if I can make it into more than one package. Well when I get more time I guess.

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#6 Post by Alienx »

Austrumi is great but Puppy is better for me

I could listen the radios in the Opera version (b)

I would like to see PupGet packages of Gimp, Mplayer and Gnumeric taken from Austrumi, PLEASE SOMEONE !!!!!!!!!!!! :D
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Alienx wrote: I would like to see PupGet packages of Gimp, Mplayer and Gnumeric taken from Austrumi, PLEASE SOMEONE !!!!!!!!!!!! :D
See my posting from this evening under HOWTO. You can install Gimp from the Slackware 9.0 binaries.
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#8 Post by Alienx »

Alienx wrote:see pupgeted...
pupgeted no, but dotpuped because it's deadly easy to install :D
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figueroa wrote:See my posting from this evening under HOWTO. You can install Gimp from the Slackware 9.0 binaries.
yes, good ! :wink:

someone could make a dotpup pack of it so that even the absolute beginner could try and play with gimp

even better would see it compiled from sources specially for Puppy :D
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Alienx wrote:someone could make a dotpup pack of it so that even the absolute beginner could try and play with gimp
Creo que es mejor aprender un pocito de linux.

English: I believe it's better to learn a little bit of linux.

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Re: Learning some linux, versus easy for beginners

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figueroa wrote:
Creo que es mejor aprender un pocito de linux.
I'm from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil and native portuguese speaker but I understand spanish, both languages are very similar :D
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Alienx wrote:
figueroa wrote:
Creo que es mejor aprender un pocito de linux.
I'm from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil and native portuguese speaker but I understand spanish, both languages are very similar :D
Oops - lo siento, pero no puedo escibir portugues. :oops:

English: Oops - sorry, but I can't write in Portuguese.

(South America is very large, and I just assumed Spanish - and sorry for the "private" communication here.) :oops:
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Alienx wrote:Austrumi is great but Puppy is better for me

I could listen the radios in the Opera version (b)

I would like to see PupGet packages of Gimp, Mplayer and Gnumeric taken from Austrumi, PLEASE SOMEONE !!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Take a look at John Murga's download server. He now has my tarball of files necessary to run Austrumi version of Gnumeric on Puppy. No compiling, just copy libraries and two directories of plugins to /usr/lib. (Just open two instances of ROX and drag and drop, nothing very challenging!) Then stick the binary wherever you want and click on it or make a desktop link or script with icon and click on that. Gnumeric screen pops up right away. As I mentioned in instruction text file that I included in tarball and here on forum, printing is big limitation since Austrumi uses CUPS. Click print button in Gnumeric and it will crash. Best workaround I found is to use "save-as" in html format and print from a browser. For my uses rarely have to print anything so works fine for me. Be nice if somebody took time to compile Gnumeric for Puppy and integrate it with Puppy printing system, but wont be me. I am happy enough having backdoor way of installing Gnumeric on Puppy so it works for what I need it to do.

If you ask nicely maybe figueroa will make simular tarball of files/directories/binary to add GIMP from Slackware. The GIMP on Austrumi is rather limited and not a full blown version. I rarely use GIMP and just boot Mepis or something when I need it.

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First screenshot is Gnumeric on Puppy. The second is of Xboard. Finally got Xboard to work after discovering Mepis had it for some reason (and I think little newer version that didnt ask for "fonts") though they didnt apparently have a chess engine that used it. As is, its just an animated chess board. Need to get the chess engine off Austrumi again. Lost it on hardrive that went bad though it was trivial to get it to run on Puppy. Then figure what the commandline option is to connect Xboard with the chess engine. Getting Xboard to work was the hard part.


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#15 Post by mouldy »

Ok, got to looking at PUP files in CuttingEdge. Saw GuestToo had made one for GnuChess 5.07. So used it instead of copying from Austrumi. Little research on making them work together and I now have Xboard using Gnuchess engine. :D :D :D Posted my script up in Cutting Edge in response to somebodys post that wanted GUI for GnuChess. If somebody really needs the help, I suppose I can make tarball of the Xboard files and short instruction text. I really havent paid any attention on putting together a pupfile. They sure are convenient, but at same time great disincentive to learning how things work. I've learned quite a bit playing with Puppy as it has developed. Hate to take that learning experience away from somebody else. :wink:

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Nice shot of the chess prog and Puppy desktop Mouldy,

- I think we are about due for our thrird page of wiki screenshots - tried to add yours but I got distracted . . .

(It was a fish)

One of the things that I feel Austrumi does well is the icon set (it is also using FvWM95) and I am also going to start a vigorous campaign to get inkscape as a dotpup - gosh I think it is about 18 meg though . . .
:roll:

I was gonna start using Austrumi for a few days - to get a fair feel of it - then I realised I would have to put in my settings each time. Nah - too lazy for that . . . Return to Pup (which saves settings on the HD)

Eventually after trying out loads of distros we settle on one or two - so for example Barry uses Puppy (good choice :-) and Mandriva for compiling.

Well my early attempts at compiling were based on Mandrake (and I toasted a lot of disks and wasted a friends time with a faster download before giving up and actually learning how to burn an ISO - ahem - should have started there . . .)

Now I have settled on Ubuntu and Kanotix. In many ways I feel Ubuntu is the ideal Puppy big brother - it is free - they will send out CD disks for free (philanthrophy is still around). They are both Debian based.

I am waiting for Barry to work out which Mandriva/Mandrake is best for Puppy compiling and may then consider downloading again.

oh and do you know why Puppy is different to all these other distros . . .
maybe another post . . . ;-)

enough ranting and ramblin' from me . . .
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#17 Post by BarryK »

I ordered an Ubuntu CD about 4 weeks ago, it hasn't arrived.

So, haven't been able to evaluate Ubuntu as a possible compile environment for Puppy.

Anybody got the latest CD?

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#18 Post by Lobster »

Ubuntu took about 6 to 8 weeks to deliver - I think they do this in batches from Europe. So hopefully will arrive soon. They have introduced an updater, as in Puppy so once you have the disk you can upgrade from on line.

They also use synaptic, so you are able to download the specialised compilers you need. Ubuntu is very boring (I think this is a good thing) It means it is stable and just works. They have a good attitude and are now more popular than Fedora and Mandriva - deservedly so.

Very sensibly they are also encouraging people to set up service based commercial undertakings based around Ubuntu - so the software is free - Hooray.

However if you have a specialised or business need or training you can go the free or commercial route. I will be very interested in your impressions once your disks arrive.
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#19 Post by JohnMurga »

Hey

I have their lastest DVD (from some US mag)

It runs well on my Lappy ... And is Debian ... So it gets my vote :-)

Seriously though, the way that Debian manages dependencies and how you can use tools like Synaptic to manage the process it makes much easier to find out what's required to make a package work... And this info can be used to make things work on Puppy.

Just my 2 cents ;-)

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#20 Post by BarryK »

Is Ubuntu using the 2.6 kernel?

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