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Lobster
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PostPosted: Mon 09 May 2005, 10:20    Post_subject:  Austrumi  
I am using the new Austrumi which I downloaded from distrowatch. It's nice. Very nice. I much prefer this to DSL. Hey DSL must be doing something right, DSL is very popular. Austrumi is (in part) geared towards sniffing out networks but also contains apache, inkscape and Gimp and looks and feels very much like Puppy - not a bad thing. It has a better interface because of the icon set. When you boot up (I used the version with Opera - there is also a version with firefox and flash) you are presented with a menu in Latvian. Oy Vey Carumba (my only Latvian)

Do not Panic!

Go to control panel - ah English . . .

Sound was not working (which is a shame as it has 3 radio stations on the menu . . . ) but connecting to the internet was easy.

Now I was gonna say hang on and wait a couple of days for the new Pup.

However if you can not wait - this should keep you going for a couple of days.

At the moment "The Linux Latvians" are contemplating whether to use Firefox with flash or Opera with something or other (forget what)


Latvia + Linux
Well done Guys!

PS. John Murga has kindly promoted me to "Official Cructacean" for this forum which is probably a great honour . . .
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PostPosted: Mon 09 May 2005, 10:41    Post_subject:  
Still prefer puppy Wink

Barry had mentioned that he had trouble building Gnumeric because of Gnome dependencies. But I noticed that Austrumni has it, I wonder how they built it ... I'll have to take a look.

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PS - Lobster, it is an honour ! You are like the crab in the "Little Mermaid" Wink
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PostPosted: Mon 09 May 2005, 11:48    Post_subject:  
JohnMurga wrote:
Still prefer puppy ;-)

Barry had mentioned that he had trouble building Gnumeric because of Gnome dependencies. But I noticed that Austrumni has it, I wonder how they built it ... I'll have to take a look.

Cheers
JohnM

PS - Lobster, it is an honour ! You are like the crab in the "Little Mermaid" ;-)


I havent tried new Austrumi, but as I posted while back, I did copy the binary and gnome libraries necessary to get Gnumeric off Austrumi and working with Puppy. The Austrumi Gnumeric does make few compromises, but it works for what I wanted to use it. Austrumi is fine effort. Some important things being in Latvian only and the difficulties I had with its dialer and hardrive install script made me sort of set it aside after I grabbed some of its goodies first though to use in Puppy.

I had promised to make up a tar ball of everything needed to run Gnumeric on Puppy, but first my hardrive that I had Puppy with Gnumeric on goes kaput then other events in my life. I still will do it, just have to start from scratch again. This time I will also make detailed notes on files necessary. I'd like to have Gnumeric back on this install of Puppy anyways.

Now one thing maybe somebody here can help with. I wanted the chess game from Austrumi. Well the binary for the commandline part of it is easy and works fine. The board is separate and called xboard. I got it working to point where it complains the fonts it wants cant be found and it aborts. I messed with it quite a bit and cant figure where it is looking for these fonts at. Anybody knows, please post or pm or whatever.
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PostPosted: Mon 09 May 2005, 12:49    Post_subject:  
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Now one thing maybe somebody here can help with. I wanted the chess game from Austrumi. Well the binary for the commandline part of it is easy and works fine. The board is separate and called xboard. I got it working to point where it complains the fonts it wants cant be found and it aborts. I messed with it quite a bit and cant figure where it is looking for these fonts at. Anybody knows, please post or pm or whatever.


They have GUI chess game ?

Right, tonight I am definitely trying to get that accross Wink

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mouldy


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PostPosted: Mon 09 May 2005, 20:01    Post_subject:  
This is tarball of files I grabbed off Austrumi Linux in order to get Gnumeric running on Puppy along with text file of short instructions. It works for what I use it for, but not guarenteed to be perfect.

Oops, too big. Its around 2.9mb and just noticed limit to attach here is 1mb. Guess I'll have to see if I can make it into more than one package. Well when I get more time I guess.
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PostPosted: Mon 09 May 2005, 20:27    Post_subject:  
Austrumi is great but Puppy is better for me

I could listen the radios in the Opera version (b)

I would like to see PupGet packages of Gimp, Mplayer and Gnumeric taken from Austrumi, PLEASE SOMEONE !!!!!!!!!!!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon 09 May 2005, 23:30    Post_subject:  
Alienx wrote:
I would like to see PupGet packages of Gimp, Mplayer and Gnumeric taken from Austrumi, PLEASE SOMEONE !!!!!!!!!!!! Very Happy


See my posting from this evening under HOWTO. You can install Gimp from the Slackware 9.0 binaries.
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PostPosted: Tue 10 May 2005, 05:47    Post_subject:  
Alienx wrote:
see pupgeted...



pupgeted no, but dotpuped because it's deadly easy to install Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue 10 May 2005, 05:56    Post_subject:  
figueroa wrote:
See my posting from this evening under HOWTO. You can install Gimp from the Slackware 9.0 binaries.


yes, good ! Wink

someone could make a dotpup pack of it so that even the absolute beginner could try and play with gimp

even better would see it compiled from sources specially for Puppy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed 11 May 2005, 09:43    Post_subject: Learning some linux, versus easy for beginners  
Alienx wrote:
someone could make a dotpup pack of it so that even the absolute beginner could try and play with gimp


Creo que es mejor aprender un pocito de linux.

English: I believe it's better to learn a little bit of linux.

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PostPosted: Thu 12 May 2005, 07:15    Post_subject: Re: Learning some linux, versus easy for beginners  
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Creo que es mejor aprender un pocito de linux.


I'm from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil and native portuguese speaker but I understand spanish, both languages are very similar Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu 12 May 2005, 09:40    Post_subject: Re: Learning some linux, versus easy for beginners  
Alienx wrote:
figueroa wrote:


Creo que es mejor aprender un pocito de linux.


I'm from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil and native portuguese speaker but I understand spanish, both languages are very similar Very Happy


Oops - lo siento, pero no puedo escibir portugues. Embarassed

English: Oops - sorry, but I can't write in Portuguese.

(South America is very large, and I just assumed Spanish - and sorry for the "private" communication here.) Embarassed
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PostPosted: Thu 12 May 2005, 13:13    Post_subject:  
Alienx wrote:
Austrumi is great but Puppy is better for me

I could listen the radios in the Opera version (b)

I would like to see PupGet packages of Gimp, Mplayer and Gnumeric taken from Austrumi, PLEASE SOMEONE !!!!!!!!!!!! :D


Take a look at John Murga's download server. He now has my tarball of files necessary to run Austrumi version of Gnumeric on Puppy. No compiling, just copy libraries and two directories of plugins to /usr/lib. (Just open two instances of ROX and drag and drop, nothing very challenging!) Then stick the binary wherever you want and click on it or make a desktop link or script with icon and click on that. Gnumeric screen pops up right away. As I mentioned in instruction text file that I included in tarball and here on forum, printing is big limitation since Austrumi uses CUPS. Click print button in Gnumeric and it will crash. Best workaround I found is to use "save-as" in html format and print from a browser. For my uses rarely have to print anything so works fine for me. Be nice if somebody took time to compile Gnumeric for Puppy and integrate it with Puppy printing system, but wont be me. I am happy enough having backdoor way of installing Gnumeric on Puppy so it works for what I need it to do.

If you ask nicely maybe figueroa will make simular tarball of files/directories/binary to add GIMP from Slackware. The GIMP on Austrumi is rather limited and not a full blown version. I rarely use GIMP and just boot Mepis or something when I need it.
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PostPosted: Fri 13 May 2005, 05:08    Post_subject:  
First screenshot is Gnumeric on Puppy. The second is of Xboard. Finally got Xboard to work after discovering Mepis had it for some reason (and I think little newer version that didnt ask for "fonts") though they didnt apparently have a chess engine that used it. As is, its just an animated chess board. Need to get the chess engine off Austrumi again. Lost it on hardrive that went bad though it was trivial to get it to run on Puppy. Then figure what the commandline option is to connect Xboard with the chess engine. Getting Xboard to work was the hard part.




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PostPosted: Fri 13 May 2005, 09:46    Post_subject:  
Ok, got to looking at PUP files in CuttingEdge. Saw GuestToo had made one for GnuChess 5.07. So used it instead of copying from Austrumi. Little research on making them work together and I now have Xboard using Gnuchess engine. :D :D :D Posted my script up in Cutting Edge in response to somebodys post that wanted GUI for GnuChess. If somebody really needs the help, I suppose I can make tarball of the Xboard files and short instruction text. I really havent paid any attention on putting together a pupfile. They sure are convenient, but at same time great disincentive to learning how things work. I've learned quite a bit playing with Puppy as it has developed. Hate to take that learning experience away from somebody else. :wink:
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