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ecomoney

Ive not had a lot of time to test Woof in detail...Im sorry. Im a fan of many of the technical concepts which are being introduced, especially ubuntu package compatibility. I dont want to come across as derisory or spoil anyones enthusiasm for the project at all....and I feel I must report this.

I did give it a quick download and test at my friends house, and showed it to a few "linux newbies" who were round visiting. The first thing one of them said was:-

puppyluvr · Posted: Thu 14 May 2009, 23:29 Post subject:

Hello,
Try my BlueJay theme and icon set...
See here...
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=23260&start=240

The theme is high contrast with enlarged fonts, (so I can see it..LOL)

Screenshots:
Menu:
http://puppylin.freehostia.com/img/bluejay.jpg
Icons:
http://i41.tinypic.com/10z6yow.jpg
Usually I set the icon names in a better font, but havnt gotten a "round tuit" on my UPup yet..

Béèm · Posted: Fri 15 May 2009, 04:47 Post subject:

ecomoney,
Instead of bickering all the time, you should have read closely Barry's blog and you would have know why this is as it is and what will be in the final product.

So please stop annoying the developers.

bugman · Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 2131 Location: buffalo commons

tasmod · Posted: Fri 15 May 2009, 08:28 Post subject:

Oh good grief someone tell him !!!

Woof is in development, not for general release or use yet. It's just up to Alpha stage.

So to keep it identified as such Barry kept it shades of grey to distinguish it.

No 'bling' yet, maybe later when it's tested properly.

ecomoney · Posted: Fri 15 May 2009, 09:03 Post subject:

How did I know I was going to get this kind of response? Rolling Eyes

I wont be there the majority of the time people try puppy....and if we are to get new users then it needs to look as good as it actually is.

I hadnt read the blog, sorry I have been very busy with the mission etc.

sikpuppy · Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 431

This post made my day.

James C · Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 6727 Location: Kentucky

It is pretty obvious that this section is for "Next Puppy Development", emphasis on "Development".

I also notice the word "Alpha" being quite prominent as well.

Pretty darn obvious that Upup, and other Alpha releases are not ready for daily use, but you should know that.The idea is to find real "bugs", not every little thing ecomoney doesn't like.

Who chose you to speak for Puppy users anyway?

ecomoney · Posted: Fri 15 May 2009, 14:45 Post subject:

tasmod · Posted: Fri 15 May 2009, 15:14 Post subject:

ecomoney,

I've no axe to grind with you. I thought someone should have explained properly.

I would suggest that for your Puppy users you stick to 4.1.2 or 4.2.1 which are for now the official releases. Until such times as woof releases are deemed stable.

If not, explain very carefully to your users that they are taking part in 'secret' tests. That should explain the grey theme to them and make them feel special. Laughing

.

Rob Lane

ecomoney · Posted: Sun 17 May 2009, 06:19 Post subject:

I have been tested and found erroneous!

Better to mention it and be wrong than not to mention it at all Laughing

Where is the link explaining explaining Barry's colourscheming of Woof

Has anyone been assigned to work out an attractive theme for the final release of Woof...I hope this important feature hasnt been forgotten about in all of the rush to produce such a great architecture. Its probably one of the easiest things to do to attract new users to Puppy, without slowing it down or risking introducing bugs.

tasmod · Posted: Sun 17 May 2009, 11:45 Post subject:

There are still themes available in 471 and 473 just use menu Desktop at startup to change them.

It was a while ago that Barry posted, can't remember whether it was his blog or in a post.

Further themes will evolve, I have two 'garish' ones I made. Rouge and Vert.

That's Red and Green for those not aware. They tend to appeal to kids.

Rob

ecomoney · Posted: Sun 17 May 2009, 22:38 Post subject:

Thanks you tasmod for making bringing the first positive contribution to this otherwise unconstructive thread! Rolling Eyes

Its a fine example.

Since this section is about "usability issues", and an "attractive theme", I will follow your lead and start a thread asking for theme contributions. I will also contact all of Puppy Linux's artistic types to ask for suggested themes.

Yes I will be sticking to .1+ editions in future for my users........the ones that arnt "special" at least Very Happy

dejan555 · Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Posts: 2807 Location: Montenegro

ecomoney · Posted: Mon 18 May 2009, 03:59 Post subject:

Hmmm......that was shortlived Shocked

Thread is now locked Confused

I tagged an invite on all of the "artistic" puppy threads, inviting people to come and contribute. Seems they will once again be treated to some quite frank and open feedback about my similarity to the male member from Ttuxxx! Laughing

It seems he already had his heart set on being the one to contribute the theme (and an untested version of the file manager Rox 2.9) to Puppy 5 Rolling Eyes

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=41937&start=15

Was just in time.....seemed he was going for the windows 95 look again, just at a time when most people are changing from Windows XP!

Ttuxxx, it looks like you did that wallpaper with the "Wordart" feature in Openoffice!

Puppy has long struggled to look as good as it actually is, the massive number of downloads of 4.2.0 (the one with the untested wordprocessor/printing system from Ttuuxxx) were down to its great theme and looks. From what I have seen, the theme is the single biggest issue that has stopped new users coming over to Puppy Linux and free software for some time. If Woof is going to be downloaded, used and it great technical overhaul appreciated, it needs to look great too!