Puppy 4.2 "Deep Thought" - Bugs & Fixes

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rerwin
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Update to recent modem improvements

#261 Post by rerwin »

I have applied some lessons learned from my 3G-pupdial project, to speed up the udev rule, handle new Intel device names, and and wait a little longer for modem response to a modem test. On initial use, my Intel modem was not found after it had been detected; increasing the wait for response by a half second solved that. This dotpet is for puppy 4.2 only.

UPDATE 5/17/09: Replaced the attachment with a correction to the Intel 536 modem init script. The corrected tarball alone is available here:http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 348#306565
Richard
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Colonel Panic
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Patchy mounting of partitions in Puppy 4.2

#262 Post by Colonel Panic »

Hi. Sorry to have to report that detection of my partitions is very patchy, especially of sda8 (the final one).

I get this error massage when I try to do it manually;

mount; /dev/sda8 is not a valid block device

and clicking on the Pmount icon simply results in the partitions up to sda6 being mounted.

I don't have the same problem with earlier Pups such as 2.15 CE and Teenpup. Can anyone please tell me what the fix for this is? Ttuuxxx has suggested that this could be a driver error.

Best,

Colonel Panic.

Bruce B

Re: tiny core repos

#263 Post by Bruce B »

mcewanw wrote:ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dist ... corelinux/

dottce's are just tar.gz archives; that's what you want since you can make them straight into dotpets (as you know).
I would NOT have thought by now, after all years of
thought and design we still need or want changes in
anything about packaging!

Take this with lots of humor, but I'm serious.

Looking at the URL you posted, it seems to me using
tinycorelinux we'd be able to know and learn in short
order who the screw up packagers are, compared to
the good ones.

Do you really think Puppy is ready for people
signing off on their packages by using their name or
handle?

Before closing, can I sell you on a Firefox pet package
that requires gnome support files? Even when
Puppy doesn't have them and Firefox doesn't need
them!

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Re: tiny core repos

#264 Post by ttuuxxx »

[quote="Bruce
Before closing, can I sell you on a Firefox pet package
that requires gnome support files? Even when
Puppy doesn't have them and Firefox doesn't need
them![/quote]

All I can say Bruce, Is that one time way back I made a couple Firefox packages that needed Gnome libs because they were simply repackage tar.gz ones with the font changes etc included, It was a bit of a learning curve to learn how to properly compile firefox for puppy, most Firefox/Seamonkey/Opera etc packages in the Software section today are just repackaged ones unless the user specifies that he/she compiled them, which I think i might of seen 2-3 times other than my stuff, they do that for the ease of pet installs, Opera of course you can't compile. but the rest you can. I would say anything from Firepup mozilla based that I released on the software section of the forum has been compiled on puppy.

Also on series 4 some applications out of the many I compiled would n't compile properly, this could be due to the faulty gtk thats in 4 series. But when that would happen, most of the time you could get Ubuntu Gutsy compiled applications to work, also I don't know of any kde base that was compiled on puppy, most of it was reused from other distros, I've probably compiled more gnome base parts than anyone who released gnomes libs on puppy, and let me tell you, it isn't fun, lol

Also sometime when say I compiled xfburn I needed dbus, but after it was compiled I was able to remove it, since it for the xfce desktop, which I didn't use but deps for you, anyways after that I had dbus installed on my pc, any programs that could use dbus automatically switch to dbus enabled, that crap because I then have to start over clean, or thing like Firefox would be build with dbus.

Hope this explains a bit.
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#265 Post by Colonel Panic »

Quick update; I've given 4.2 Bling another try and this time the partitions loaded properly, so it seems to be a temporary or intermittent fault.

I might try Puppy 4.2.1 next.

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Wine - can't run

#266 Post by Tui »

I have just completed a frugal install to a 2Gb RunDisk, and
all went well until I loaded WINE 1.16 - I used the (dot)pet
version.

The screen has gone black with just the mouse pointer on screen.

Any help for this one ?

Cheers Tui

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Java kills printing in Deepthrough (4.2)

#267 Post by mafae »

When Java is installed (by .pet, or manually from the SUN homepage), printing is killed:

CUPS is not accessible anymore (can not connect to localhost...), and also printing itself (HP Laserjet 4L on lp0) doesn't work anymore.

Some posts before in this blog I read about some trouble with printing, and tried the "libgnomeprint-2.18.5-full.pet", and it seemed to work (first installed Java, then the "libgnome.." - but only until I enabled Java in Openoffice.

Any ideas?

Mafae

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#268 Post by rcrsn51 »

I cannot reproduce your problem. I installed Java into a fresh copy of 4.2.0 using a manual install and there were no side effects on printing.

However, I don't have Open Office installed, so I can't comment on that part of the issue.

How much memory does your machine have?

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#269 Post by mafae »

My default machine is a IBM Thinkpad R50, 1.4GHz with 512MB RAM.

Before posting here I also tried on other machines like a old 650MHz 512MB DELL Laptop, and on a High-performing Dual-core with 2GB RAM, all with the same effect: As soon a Java is installed, printing doesn't work any more (and CUPS ends up in un-accessible localhost...). Also I tried different Java versions (1.6 and 1.5).

The effect with OpenOffice (Oo3 as sfs-file) is just on top, when trying to workaround with the "libgnomeprint-2.18.5-full.pet".

On my default installation (4.1.2) everything works fine.

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#270 Post by rcrsn51 »

Try to manually restart CUPS with the command

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/etc/init.d/cups start
Are you accessing CUPS through Menu > System > Manage Printing?

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#271 Post by DaveS »

This has me puzzled too. I have tried all 4x versions of Puppy with 1.5 and 1.6 versions of Java, and all currently available CUPS versions with OO2.4 and OO3 sfs, all no problem. What else do you have installed?
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sound

#272 Post by vito »

Hello all:

Downloaded latest version of deeper thought x2 with bug fixes. The sound does not work on my IBM laptop T22 - sound = cs46xx . The sound does not play however. I think that it may be a kernel loading problem. I as there is sone error that flashes on the screen during alsa config saying that something cs46xx is in use by something else/

I load TMX shard from the CD and the sound works from the boot with no configuration. This is why I'm thinking that it may be a kernel issue.

Thx All,
Vito

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sound

#273 Post by vito »

Hello All Again:

I fixed the sound by copying the modules folder, modprobe.conf and the modules.conf files to overwrite the deeper thought equivalents, and rebooted; now there is sound again in puppy.

So I guess this is not a kernel problem as I had first thought, but some failure to config on boot and in subsequesnt tries by alsaconf

Thx,
Vito

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java kills CUPS printing in 4.2

#274 Post by mafae »

Try to manually restart CUPS with the command

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Code:
/etc/init.d/cups start
Are you accessing CUPS through Menu > System > Manage Printing?
Tnx for the hint! Restarting CUPS manually works. Also I meanwhile experimented a bit, and the effect became more clear:

- Started with new blank 4.2 installation (frugal): CUPS works fine
- Installed "jre1.6.0_11.pet":
- CUPS was killed immediately after JRE-pet installation finished.
- Manual re-start works.
- After installation of JRE, CUPS-script does not start automatically anymore.

Cheers,
Mafae

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#275 Post by DaveS »

Mafae, try this installer, yours sounds faulty. Either the.pup I posted or the later one from Ttuuxxx. If you use the one from Ttuuxxx, just download the tar.gz, extract it and run the installer. This has been 100% for me............http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=41098
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#276 Post by jebaJQ8 »

@WhoDo:
Thank you for including the JQ8flat icon theme in 4.2.1.

I don't know this should say a bug.
I notice that "mount" icon is not included in the JQ8flat theme.

I made the "mount" icon for the Desktop and also made the "refresh" icon for the menu panel.
If you could, I would like you to include these icons.

Regards,

JebaJQ8
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#277 Post by WhoDo »

jebaJQ8 wrote:I made the "mount" icon for the Desktop and also made the "refresh" icon for the menu panel.
If you could, I would like you to include these icons.
I'm happy to do that, JebaJQ8. Thank you for the excellent theme! 8)
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#278 Post by cthisbear »

WhoDo:

m4a Media files work out of the box in RC3.
I PMed coolpup and you as well.

Thanks mate, gonna find something else to whinge about now.
Remind myself....must avoid looking into my mirror.

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Java kills CUPS

#279 Post by mafae »

Hi,
after some further testing, the CUPS-problem became more clear:
It has nothing to do with Java or Openoffice, it is a matter of how CUPS is accessed:

Menu>Setup>CUPS Printer Wizard
Works fine and reliable.

Menu>System>Manage Printing
Kills CUPS nearly always!
After manual restart of CUPS

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../etc/init.d/cups start
it works fine again.

So it seems rcrsn51 was on the right way, when he asked
Are you accessing CUPS through Menu > System > Manage Printing?
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#280 Post by tempestuous »

Because I have never bothered to download Puppy 4.2, I only learned about this problem with Broadcom wifi devices recently:
trio wrote:In 4.2 Final..bcm43xx is still being a problem...for those of you who wants a workaround..just edit /etc/rc.d/MODULESCONFIG
Dear oh dear. It seems that the developers of 4.2 included many, if not all, of the extra 4.1.x drivers I posted here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=34159

This is a major error. If I had been told about this before the decision was made, I would have advised against it.
Quite a number of the extra drivers I provided are alternative drivers, to deal with specialised hardware variations or special situations. They will compete with the standard kernel drivers, so my driver packages include a modules-preference configuration (/etc/rc.d/MODULESCONFIG) which will force Puppy to use the new driver in preference to the standard one.
This will cause problems where the old driver is known to work better than the new one ... as in the case of Broadcom wifi devices in anything other than Dell or HP computers.
trio wrote:In 4.2 Final..bcm43xx is still being a problem...for those of you who wants a workaround..just edit /etc/rc.d/MODULESCONFIG (line 33) delete the red word

PREFLIST=' rt2500usb:rt73usb ath5k:ath_pci orinoco_nortel:hostap_plx orinoco_plx:hostap_plx orinoco_tmd:hostap_plx orinoco_pci:hostap_pci bcm43xx:wl b43:wl b43legacy:wl ssb:wl prism54:p54pci r8169:r8101 rtl8187:r8187 '
Unfortunately, that's only half-correct. As well:
"b43:wl" and "b43legacy:wl" should be deleted.
"bcm43xx:wl" should be changed to "bcm43xx:ssb"

That's because the new Broadcom b43/b43legacy modules, which work in conjunction with the ssb module, should be used in preference to the deprecated bcm43xx module. The firmware in Puppy is compatible with b43/b43legacy, and is NOT compatible with bcm43xx.

The full and correct PREFLIST entry (from Puppy 4.1.2) is

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PREFLIST=' rt2500usb:rt73usb ath5k:ath_pci orinoco_nortel:hostap_plx orinoco_plx:hostap_plx orinoco_tmd:hostap_plx orinoco_pci:hostap_pci martian_dev:ltserial bcm43xx:ssb prism54:p54pci r8169:r8101 '
Unfortunately (groan) there are also reports that Puppy 4.2 fails to automatically uncompress the b43 firmware, but hopefully this may be fixed once the preferences are corrected.

I now attach the correct MODULESCONFIG with PREFLIST entries. This is to replace trio's "No_bcm43xx_patch.pet", which is wrong.
Please use this in the next 4.2 update.
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