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#41 Post by rarsa »

WhoDo,

Great job coordinating and bringing this job to completion.

Thanks to all the people that contributed to a very successful Puppy CE

It was a long road but I am sure you can look back and think it was worth it.
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#42 Post by Pizzasgood »

WhoDo wrote:
Pizzasgood wrote:Any kind of timeline on the 4.2.1 Unleashed packages? ;)
Unleashed core for 4.2.1 is now up. New and updated .pet packages have already been uploaded too.
Pizzasgood wrote:Oh, and don't forget the devx_421.sfs (yes I know it will be almost the same as devx_420.sfs, and I will be using that for the interim...).
In the process of uploading as I post this response.

Am I done now? :P :lol:
Yup. Thanks! My sister says thanks too.
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#43 Post by Minnesota »

Thanks WHODO... and ttuuxxx and ... all who contributed!

FOR ALL THE HARD work and perseverance..., some days.. well... but the end results worth the efforts. On to bigger and better things.

GOOD JOB to all.
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#44 Post by trio »

open up a bottle of champagne, and let's ask ecomoney to join the celebration... :lol:

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#45 Post by ecomoney »

Yes...Ive been putting off posting here, thinking of the "best" thing to say....
During his efforts to invent the light bulb, a reporter came to him [Thomas Edison] and asked, "How many times are you going to fail at creating the light bulb?" Mr. Edison turned and looked at the reporter and said, "Son, I haven't failed! I've simply discovered another way not to invent the light bulb!"
The real achievement of 4.2.1 was not in producing the ISO, but in finding the way of producing the ISO. We now have a basic bug-tracking system and a set of guidelines for testing. There is also a renewed focus around the forum on Puppies Mission statement, and a clarification of where Puppy Linux's place is in the whole Linux "ecosystem", along with an Extremely welcome focus on Puppies looks/theme which has been overdue for a very long time. We are a lot better set up IMHO for BarryK's inevitable retirement and continuing the project without (so much of) his guidance.

Its no secret I believe it was detrimental to Puppies reputation to leave a distro with broken core functions (WP, CUPS) up for so long. This release would have been better named 4.2.2, 4.2.1 being a hastily released 4.2.0 with a regressed Abiword and CUPS. from 4.1.2 while we got these problems sorted out (its not like the fixes wernt available, just not released. I realise now that my own protestations about this, through the psychology of the people in charge, was counterproductive in this getting fixed on a speedier basis.

I put a lot of time into 4.2.1 - as a result my Company earnings(and its website) are down, its bank account overdrawn, and if I dont do something soon about my paperwork its going to get struck off at the register of companies. My other IRL projects are also behind schedule. In terms of the "Collective Wisdom" in developing Puppy in the future I consider it one of Ecomoney Systems Ltd's most productive periods ever....the Company Secretary disagrees :lol: Im going to have to take some "time off" now to catch up.

Kudos to WhoDo, Ttuuxxx and everyone else for sticking with the project and producing the "no-fun" bugfixed version. :)

Woof Woof and Champagne all round.
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#46 Post by ecomoney »

P.S.....thanks for adding "just works" .mp4 support by clicking on the file....shame .avi support in this area has been dropped though :lol:
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#47 Post by mrd »

I just want to say thanks to everyone who helps on this project! I don't mind bugs once in a while so don't beat yourselves up over them.

If everything just worked perfectly out of the box, I would never learn anything.

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#48 Post by James C »

I'm still waiting to see any new Linux release that has no bugs. Check out the reviews on Distrowatch or go to any Linux forum sometime.

" Bugs" are a pain and a reality.......one can only hope that any individual release won't contain too many.

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#49 Post by cthisbear »

" shame .avi support in this area has been dropped "

I hadn't tested that, so I tried yesterday.
I agree that this also should have been attended to.
Though of course when you drag the Gxine icon into
the run action...then it also works.....annoying though.

I did the same for DVD ISO movies as well.
Minisys Muppy used to open ISO movies by default.

Strangely Seamonkey crashed a couple of times.
I've heard reports of this before.

I actually tried out Firepup as a replacement.
Good work...no crashes.


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#50 Post by ecomoney »

Well, the good new is Ttuuxxx has agreed to make incremental updates to bugs like this in 4.2.1 until woof is "stable".

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 5&start=75

Ive entered it in the bugs section so he knows what issues to resolve

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/index.php?f=39
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#51 Post by ttuuxxx »

ecomoney wrote:Well, the good new is Ttuuxxx has agreed to make incremental updates to bugs like this in 4.2.1 until woof is "stable".

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 5&start=75

Ive entered it in the bugs section so he knows what issues to resolve

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/index.php?f=39
Yes I did say that and will do that as once as Warren has told me that he has stopped with updates and will no longer be producing bug fix releases. I will not step on his toes, but I will keep the series moving forward if need be.
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#52 Post by aarf »

FriedelBumm wrote:
In my eeePC 701, 4.2.x has been looking crisp and responding quickly (with the added extras by tempestuous), so nothing to complain, really.
My EEE 701G runs quickly and stable (sometimes firefox crashes, but it's probably a flash problem) in 4.2.0, but the upgrade to 4.2.1 doesn't find the ath0 wifi device. I didn't tested with the devx-sfs, but any eee-extras take effect. - I'm happy that the downgrade with my pup_save was no problem.
to get wifi working try this.
get madwifi pet from this page:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=34159
click install it.
then use the search function to search for ath_pci.ko and then delete (backup or move it to my_documents) the ath_pci.ko that is not in the madwifi folder ( it is the smaller ath_pci.ko at 115K that has to be removed). then restart.

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#53 Post by tempestuous »

FriedelBumm wrote:but the upgrade to 4.2.1 doesn't find the ath0 wifi device.
Upgrades are commonly problematic, and of course, in your case the wifi driver was installed from a dotpet.
All you probably need to do is reinstall madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6-r3861-k2.6.25.16.pet
aarf wrote:get madwifi pet from this page:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=34159
click install it.
then use the search function to search for ath_pci.ko and then delete (backup or move it to my_documents) the ath_pci.ko that is not in the madwifi folder ( it is the smaller ath_pci.ko at 115K that has to be removed). then restart.
No no. madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6-r3861-k2.6.25.16.pet definitely installs the updated ath_pci.ko module into
/lib/modules/2.6.25.16/madwifi
and overwrites the original version. I just checked again now.
If you have ath_pci.ko anywhere else, it's not from my dotpet.

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#54 Post by aarf »

tempestuous wrote: No no. madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6-r3861-k2.6.25.16.pet definitely installs the updated ath_pci.ko module into
/lib/modules/2.6.25.16/madwifi
and overwrites the original version. I just checked again now.
If you have ath_pci.ko anywhere else, it's not from my dotpet.
I'm currently on the moon (actually I'm back on earth, but I wrote this post while still on the moon)

the ath_pci.ko I removed was in this folder:
/lib/modules/2.6.21.7/net/
it was 116Kin size. wifi failed to work before I removed it and worked after I did.
I'll go searching for the pets/dotpups I used, as I was playing around for quite a while over a day or two before I could get this to work and I have some older pets/dotpups along with newly downloaded ones.

attached image of pets used first dpets.jpg that failed. then added to that also the second image dpetsmad.png after further playing. still failed, before deleting
/lib/modules/2.6.21.7/net/ath_pci.ko made it work. haven't actually added the aircrack yet.
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#55 Post by tempestuous »

aarf wrote:the ath_pci.ko I removed was in this folder:
/lib/modules/2.6.21.7/net/
You have installed an incompatible version of the Eee ath_pci driver.
madwifi-ng-r2756-eeepatch-k2.6.21.7.pet is ONLY for Puppy versions with the 2.6.21.7 kernel; Puppy 3.x and 4.0.
Note that my driver dotpets always include the kernel version in their names.
Be careful about where you obtain your dotpets. That driver was posted in the thread "Extras for Puppy 3.x and 4.0"
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 643#153643
Clearly, it's not suitable for Puppy 4.1/4.2.

Yes, the directory path for the ath_pci module was different with this earlier kernel. That was Barry's decision when he added third-party drivers at the time.
aarf wrote:haven't actually added the aircrack yet.
The aircrack variant of the Eee wifi driver is only necessary if you want to use the aircrack utility for wardriving/WEP-cracking.

aarf

#56 Post by aarf »

Clearly, it's not suitable for Puppy 4.1/4.2.
thanks for the clarification tempestuous.
Clearly, what is clear to you was not clear to me :shock: and possibly not clear to FriedelBumm. I shall be more careful in future. thanks again.

aarf

#57 Post by aarf »

can you see something wrong with page or is it just me that it is annoying?
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#58 Post by Dingo »

In Puppy 4.2.1, on my not so new pc (Pentium III 1 Gh clock - 655 MB RAM), bling, causes some slowdown (e.g. in updating menu or when I kill x session and restart x)

Do you know any safe way to remove bling so my pc is speeder?
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#59 Post by sideburns »

I'm running Puppy 4.0 on my laptop. It has a P II 255, 96Meg of RAM and a 3 Gig hard disk. It's a full install, not a frugal. Which version of Puppy should I upgrade to, and what's the best way? (I know Puppy checks for upgrade on boot, so I'm presuming there's a way to do it without a complete reinstall.)
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#60 Post by Wolf Pup »

puppy 4.2 and 4.2.1 for some reason is slower to start the desktop than 4.1.2 :?: puppys getting slow :(
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