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TEENpup 2009 Legacy available for Download
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john biles


Joined: 17 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Jun 2009, 00:54    Post subject:  TEENpup 2009 Legacy available for Download
Subject description: Release Anouncement
 

Hello Everyone,
Release Notes for TEENpup 2009 Legacy: Today sees the fifth release of TEENpup and once again it’s still based on Puppy 2.14 Why? Well mainly a lot of old Hardware just seems to work with Puppy 2.14. This time the iso has grown to just under 700MB’s so that it will fit on a CD. As the focus for TEENpup has shifted to a Modern Operating System for older PC’s which most likely only came with a CD Drive, it was felt that a 700MB size limit should be adhere to.

Also to attract users from Windows TEENpup default color scheme has been modeled on some of Vista’s coloring. Also the way the menu Applications are worded might seem too simplistic for the average Linux User. It was felt that to win over new users; TEENpup’s Applications had to be as easy to access as was possible. To someone new to Linux and coming across for example Applications called GIMP, ROX , GAMBAS, KAFFEINE to name a few, might be put off even opening them and it was felt that what an Application did was more important than its name.

So this now leads me to some of the Applications included in this release. It was felt that Open Office should be included with its Help Manual as well as being the latest version at time of release ( 3.1 ) as a large number of users, use a PC for Writing, Spreadsheets and Presentations and anything less wouldn’t do. KDE’s similar Office Applications have been removed. A number of new KDE Applications have been added. Also Pdrive’s USB auto mount daemon has been turned on by default, detecting most USB devices that are plugged in. A lot of time has been spent fine tuning little details that make it easier for the average user to use TEENpup. Example: Seamonkey will recognize most common attachments in emails and open them when you click on them. No more searching through “bin” folders for the executables, which wouldn’t be a hard thing to do for a seasoned Linux user where as a Linux Newbie would fine it almost impossible.

Also there's something I created called "Magic Scripts" which is a drag & drop arrangement. all you do is drag & drop say an audio file or video file and it will allow you to convert it to another format, simple!

Also included is Chinese, Japanese and Korean font support for Seamonkey and Firepup.

Those familiar with some of the Applications included in this release will find them to be an older version than is currently available, why? Well the main reasons are because their smaller, have less dependency and due to these reasons run faster on old Hardware and finally I can fit more of them in to the iso. Some users will feel I left out an Application which they felt should have been in TEENpup, well a lot of testing of different Applications was done over the last 15 months and for one reason or another it was decided to leave that Application out.

To those trying this release of TEENpup, I hope you find it modern, useful, reliable and most of all user friendly. Enjoy!

You can now download TEENpup 2009 Legacy from

It is now safe to download from Softpedia, the iso has been updated.
http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Operating-Systems/Linux-Distributions/TeenPup-31563.shtml#

http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/teenpup/
it has a password user=puppy password=linux. It's posted on the front page of .asia so it's an easy one for users to find.

http://puppylinux.ca/tpp/teenpup/
MD5SUM = 5b8492d050eac2a08c017130559f22b8 TEENpup2009Legacy.iso
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Puppyt

Joined: 09 May 2008
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Location: Karana Downs, Queensland

PostPosted: Mon 08 Jun 2009, 01:23    Post subject:  

Hats off to you Sir, Mr Biles.

You bloody ripper. I'm a HUGE fan of your work - while I dabble with heaps of Puppy3 and Puppy4 puplets, and even have a few attempts at constructing my own - all roads lead back to TeenPup, as they say. If they don't, they should. TeenPup2008 was the clincher for me to seriously consider leaving the world of Windows, and now that I have a little experience in remastering Puppy etc, your projects stand out as Gold Standard constructions. I post little, but lurk lots - and I know there are teeming masses of us who are like-minded regarding your consumate expertise and consideration. Bit like Teenie groupies, embarrassingly...

Here's to a Very Happy 2009 Legacy.
Thank You
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Ray MK


Joined: 05 Feb 2008
Posts: 753
Location: UK

PostPosted: Mon 08 Jun 2009, 06:21    Post subject:  

Hi John

Fantastic stuff - you have really done this well - luv the Tips and the little dog.

Auto set-up for mouse and internet - brilliant.

And use >> to auto-hide the task bar - nice.

Beautifully done - this is a keeper for sure.

Very best regards - Ray
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Lobster
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Jun 2009, 10:45    Post subject:  

Smile
A LOT of work has gone into this and the praise is well deserved.
Best Puplet I have seen in a while.

Looks good, comprehensive programs - all seem working . . .
Smile

So bear that in mind whist I mention my experiences.
first of all I am using an Athlon 64 Dual core 5000 mhz
- so I am really suited to a later kernel and puplet

When I tried to load my default xorg settings I got the message
Code:
dc= stack underflow

and had to use xvesa
but eventually managed to get 1024 x 768 res in xorg (only one step down from my preferred res)

My inbuilt ethernet connection was not recognised
so I could not get online - tried a few things but no luck - may try an older machine in a moment . . .

No sound.

I like the care and attention to detail
The range of programs
and the layout is simple and straightforward
.
I feel the use of conky, of which I am a reluctant but growing fan, is better than the default in 4.2.1 (which is very good)

Barry has been updating the two series and I wonder if combined with
Teenpup (using the Teenpupsave.sfs, with the yet to be released 2.18 ) will be possible?

If anyone can mirror this and perhaps split into pieces for modem download, that would be welcome.

Another thing - John did mention that he was uploading this
and were was his wiki page a couple of days back

Well the Puppy wiki is being updated/scripted by Raffy and Pritish
and if we have a fan of Teenpup that is able to provide a web or
wiki page that would be a great contribution

I like Teenpup a lot
It still feels like Puppy but with a great deal of simple functionality added.
I feel like a teen (but enough of my personal life) Laughing

Woof Woof

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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Tue 09 Jun 2009, 04:27    Post subject:  

I'd really like to try out TEENpup, but the 1st boot halts part way.

Here's my thread on the problem.

Is 256MB RAM plus a 512MB Linux swap partition not enough?
Or doesn't it support a PCI to IDE RAID controller card?
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markofkane


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Location: Kane, IL USA

PostPosted: Tue 09 Jun 2009, 06:23    Post subject:  

Mine won't finish booting either, I forgot the error, but it's a common error that halts booting. I could try again and write it down.


Edit: "Cannot find Puppy on 'ideCD' boot media" Sad
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cthisbear

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PostPosted: Tue 09 Jun 2009, 06:45    Post subject:  

Softpedia site now available.

http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/TeenPup-Download-31563.html

Downloading now.

Chris.
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cthisbear

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PostPosted: Tue 09 Jun 2009, 08:13    Post subject:  

Quick test.

Downloaded from Softpedia.

Burnt and booted perfectly.

Chose Xvesa...so had to fix screen size.
Posting now from Teenpup 2009.

The quiet achiever...Big John Biles.

Thanks mate.
Will test later other apps.

Chris.
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john biles


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PostPosted: Tue 09 Jun 2009, 11:22    Post subject:  

Hello cthisbear,
Thank you for downloading from Softpedia. This confirms that the iso is ok.

To Sylvander and markofkane, I'm sorry to hear that TEENpup isn't booting for you. Basically when you remove all my stuff it's still Puppy 2.14 so if you've had problems booting Puppy 2.14 then the same problems will arise with TEENpup.
Basically I have access to 7 different spec PC's and TEENpup boots up fine on all of them. I guess TEENpup can't be compatible with all the Hardware out there. Sad

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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Tue 09 Jun 2009, 12:18    Post subject:  

So I guess the problem is the PCI to IDE SCSI RAID controller card.

I've had problems before with older Puppies being unable to see the HDD due to the controller being unsupported [I guess].

The smaller [older] Puppies manage to boot OK...
I guess because they can get bye with that amount of RAM and no Linux swap partition.

Whereas I guess the TEENpup RAMdrive is too big to go in the available RAM, so it needs a swap partition in use, but it cannot see the HDD, so cannot use the swap partition.

Any agreement on that? Smile

Any way of by-passing that problem?
Make a swap partition on a USB drive?
Flash Drive or HDD?

Perhaps not worth doing if I cannot use the internal HDD. Sad
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smokey01


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PostPosted: Tue 09 Jun 2009, 16:37    Post subject:  

Good job John.

How come you used Skype 1 instead of 2?

Wouldn't version 2 work?

Regards

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john biles


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PostPosted: Tue 09 Jun 2009, 18:38    Post subject:  

Hello smokey01,
Your correct Skype 2 doesn't work with TEENpup's older Puppy series 2 base.
My wife 2 complains about not being able to use her webcam, but still chats on Skype 1 with friends and family because Windows takes toooo..... Looong..... to load up.

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markofkane


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PostPosted: Tue 09 Jun 2009, 18:46    Post subject:  

Good job, although it won't work on my desktop. I think it will work on my laptop, though. Cool
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jduffy22335

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PostPosted: Tue 09 Jun 2009, 21:01    Post subject: Booting teenpup 2009
Subject description: Boot fails
 

markofkane wrote:
Mine won't finish booting either,

Edit: "Cannot find Puppy on 'ideCD' boot media" Sad


I also have a Boot error, I believe it maybe SATA Raid Controller (it is raid off /normal mode). It does a search of the drives then either reports can not find idecd, or idehd when booting via gldr.

Is there a parameter to pass? or is it that I have too new a hardware for the kernel ? 214R does work as well as the 214X (ttuuxx) is working.

Thanks, it could just be the onset of a senior moment.
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PostPosted: Wed 10 Jun 2009, 04:33    Post subject:  

Coolpup has just informed the puppy wiki and website is back - HOORAY

TEENpup 2009 Legacy page
http://www.puppylinux.org/?q=downloads/puplets/teenpup-2009-legacy

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