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aarf

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jun 2009, 09:12    Post_subject:  

how much longer will it be before the search link at the forum front page is changed to point to the advanced google search link above? it is obviously useless as it is so why hasn't it been changed?
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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jun 2009, 13:26    Post_subject: Forrum Searching  

aarf wrote:
how much longer will it be before the search link at the forum front page is changed to point to the advanced google search link above? it is obviously useless as it is so why hasn't it been changed?


I agree. Why not both of these:

http://wellminded.com/puppy/pupsearch.html

and

http://www.google.com/cse?cx=001083390648758964922%3Ajaptrn9hwag

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jun 2009, 16:26    Post_subject:  

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how much longer will it be before the search link at the forum front page is changed to point to the advanced google search link above? it is obviously useless as it is so why hasn't it been changed?

It isn't useless. Both it and the google search have their place. Sometimes I need the special options on the forum search page, such as searching in a particular section of the forum, or for an author...

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Aitch


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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jun 2009, 21:43    Post_subject:  

I concur with disciple
Very often, I find, people don't understand the search process

This may help, & maybe some modifications to our forum's search database are possible?

http://www.phpbbdoctor.com/blog/2007/01/26/how-does-search-work-part-i/

http://www.phpbbdoctor.com/blog/2007/01/30/how-does-search-work-part-ii/


Pizzasgood, maybe, can you do this mod? Is it worth it?

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Jun 2009, 02:31    Post_subject:  

I should perhaps clarify that normally I already know what I am looking for - it is probably a little less helpful to the average newbie Sad
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CiaW

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PostPosted: Fri 03 Jul 2009, 18:25    Post_subject:  

My personal favorite search engine, that I've used for years (and it fits well with this linux distro!) is Dogpile. It searches Yahoo, Google, MSN and a few others and tells you from which search engine(s) a particular result was found.

I guess it depends what you're searching for, but I've done o.k. with the forum search using the search button on here -- I usually enter a 2 or 3 word term and select 'search for all terms'.

For general internet searching -- I think google tends to lean toward being good at giving higher ranking for very recently updated pages; but for things I research /search for, I seem to get higher quality results from Yahoo. Using dogpile, I get the best of both worlds!
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BadCam

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Aug 2009, 17:01    Post_subject:  

I've just spotted this very helpful thread and have immediately installed the Firefox Wellminded search function.

I note that the Search Icon is the same as Google's search Icon. How can I change this to something more obvious, such as the Puppy Linux Dog?

Perhaps, the Wellminded people might put this in as a future option.
Thanks.
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Pizzasgood


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PostPosted: Fri 07 Aug 2009, 19:24    Post_subject:  

When I originally made the plugin, it did have the Puppy icon. It must have gotten lost when they put the plugin on the wellminded page (I didn't make the wellminded page, I just made a search plugin to use it)

The original is over here:
http://www.browserloadofcoolness.com/software/puppy/misc-scripts/puppy-linux-search.html

The actual file is this:
http://www.browserloadofcoolness.com/software/puppy/misc-scripts/puppy-linux-search.xml
The bit in between the image tags is where the actual image is defined.


Looking at the version in use at wellminded, it seems that maybe they made their own version of it:
http://wellminded.com/puppy/search-puppy.xml

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Aug 2009, 19:50    Post_subject:  

Very Happy

Thank you very much.
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PostPosted: Thu 13 Aug 2009, 17:28    Post_subject:  

...... after I PM'd peppyy - wellminded's creator....

BadCam wrote:
Thanks. I have a feeling that he's already responded. Cool I have a nice new doggy icon in my search bar now. Sweet. Thanks again.


Maybe peppyy will post how to do it, if there's a need?

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Sep 2009, 12:21    Post_subject:  

For the benefit of Chinese Puppy users, following Alexa stat results

http://www.baidu.com/

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Sep 2009, 12:45    Post_subject:  

Have you tried the custom google search on the puppy web desktop?

You can search the forum only (murga-linux.com) or all puppylinux.* websites (including .com .org .ca .asia and anything else that comes around that starts with puppylinux)

The forum search yields the same results as the wellminded search.

The second one (.*) will turn up lots of pets on .ca and .asia and useful info from the various faqs, wikis & blogs on .com or .org

See my signature for the link

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Sep 2009, 13:10    Post_subject:  

Thanks Techno

I have posted a link in a post of Eric's

Also new

puppyite wrote:
Protect your privacy, use Scroogle.org and get the same results as Go0g!e.
Ixquick is a Metasearch that respects your privacy too


thanks puppyite, borrowed from your sig

http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm

http://www.ixquick.com/


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PostPosted: Mon 19 Oct 2009, 03:02    Post_subject: Searching and organising forum help
Sub_title: organising search reference material Zotero
 

Many, many thanks to Pizzasgood and most especially peppyy (and all his other aliases) for the Puppy Google Search plugin.

I too get frustrated with the default search engine - though I find it extremely useful (by default) for catching up with the current moving and shaking in the puppy community. I wonder whether the google search link be also included so that the current (default) and detailed (google) be made available to all casual or output-focused users?

Organisation of search results is the other bone of contention. I've frequently spent hours looking for "stuff" and then have to do it all over again weeks later to find that certain diamond of data in the rough. Currently researching the use/possibility of Puppy in low-ram Toshiba laptops - but I would hate for all my tedious crawling to go to waste so I'm aiming to build and post a summary report for fellow and future newbies - also in some way to support those allied interests of Aitch and Colonel Schell in other threads.
To do this I'm using Zotero, an invaluable add-on for Firefox 2+ (alas not Seamonkey or Firepup EDIT: see below ) and creating bibliographical items from each thread of importance (and their cross-references). I cut'n'paste the data 'diamonds' into zotero notes for quick retrieval - but all of the pages, notes etc are re-searchable on- or off-line, for when developing the summary report. The posted report/skeleton search will then be added to and ammended by the suggestions of the puppy community, but hopefully it might serve as a "go to"point for other researchers that might otherwise be lost in the realms of puppy wisdom...I've compiled about 70+ useful threads on low-ram computers - time I re-surfaced into the real world...

Cheers!

(...maybe it might show a new form of self-organization for help research in the puppy forums, via volunteered contributions from newbies or teams of regulars. We could call it "Bitzer".... aaargh real world beckons)


EDIT: I successfully loaded Zotero in Pulp0.03's Firepup (Bon Echo, Firefox 2.0.0.20 base) from the add-on site. I wasn't able to get it working in Firepup previously in other puplets but now we're cooking.

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Oct 2009, 03:27    Post_subject:  

The best forum search I find, is the 6 or 7 search engines I made and installed in 4.2 Seamonkey with monkey menus and 2.14x Firefox, It does way better results than the forums default search, plus There are others I made like Barry's blog, sourceforge, freshmeat, gnome etc.
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