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#41 Post by charlie6 »

Hi,
since my last post I had some mails exchange with gcad3d developper Franz Reiter, and yesterday got it installed and working on toutoulinux4.1.2k2.6.25.16 frugal (french translation of Puppy).

I did the following:
installation of prerequisites:
1. OpenGL with installation of xorg_xorg_full_dri-7.3.pet
(verify installation doing in a console; if "Yes" answer for direct rendering then is OpenGL active).

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#pwd
# /
# glxinfo 
name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
...
#

2. GCC with installation of dev_412.sfs
verify installation doing

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#gcc
gcc: no input files
#
2.1. ldconfig looks to be active (not necessary to install ldconfig.tar.gz)

3. dependencies: all 3 downloaded from debian-packages.org (in package contents)
libglib2.0-0_2.16.6-1_i386.deb
libgtkgl2.0-1_2.0.0-1_i386.deb
libselinux1_2.0.65-5_i386.deb
copy them under /
there do in a console (where xxx is the respective name of the above libs ) :

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#pwd
/
#undeb libxxx_i386.deb
4. others: nihil as now (I asked where to find libc.2.4.4 - recommended on gcad3d.org; I did not found it till now)

5. graphic card: mine is intel 82845G and seems not render textures ("OpenGL-binding error") I hope it does not matter as I need only drawing lines circles etc..

afterwards download gCAD3D-1.26-Linux-x86
and copy it to / ;
render it executable (right clik on it; permissions; select 'a+x executable' OK)

in a console:

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#pwd
/
#ls
gCAD3D-1.26-Linux-x86
#./gCAD3D-1.26-Linux-x86
...
box: choose language - enter
...
box: agree on license - enter
...
etc
...
box: installation finished
#
there has been a /root/gCAD3D folder created
and here we are; again in a console:

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# cd /root/gCAD3D
# ./gCAD3D
...
or
from rox-filler '/root/gCAD3D' drag and drop the white-and-red-cross on the desktop background and click on it...

there the program is running, display of a "rugby balloon" in viewer mode (move it pressing Ctrl or Shift or both while moving the mouse).
Now select CAD or MAN or NC: if no shutdown of the program then gCAD3D looks running OK.
(I could not anymore re-display the rugby-balloon...never mind?!)

Now read manual to learn using it.
Sorry for my poor english...!
Many thanks to Franz Reiter for his time and efforts!
Cheers
Charlie

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#42 Post by charlie6 »

Hi Muggins,
muggins wrote: qcad-2.0.5.0-1-i486.pet
I did not succeded to install it. I clicked on its .pet archive and..nothing..?
I find it a tiny interessant 2D drawing soft for simple mechanical applications (already used under WinXP)

Did someone get it working?

Cheers
Charlie

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#43 Post by muggins »

Hi charlie6,

I'm glad you persevered & managed to get gCAD3D working...I used an incompatible libselinux!

Anyway, thanks to the developer's work, it appears to be working on puppy now, so I've packaged it as a .pet, plus the required debian libraries, and added it to the first post of this thread.

Regarding qcad, you need to install qt-3.3.8.pet, then reboot, then run it from Menu->Graphic->QCad

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#44 Post by charlie6 »

Hi muggins,
thanks!
I got qt-3.3.8.pet installed and qcad as well. It works.
Do you (or anybody else) have experience with printing with Qcad?
I wonder how to get a print from it?
Print preview gives a white page...(printer is CUPS-pdf; printer setup indicates CUPS-pdf at localhost)
There is no dialod box asking where to save the *.pdf document...

Cheers
Charlie

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#45 Post by muggins »

Unfortunately I don't have a printer to test on...but I wonder whether you could try printing to a file, as a .ps document, then try printing the .ps doc using the default .ps viewer?

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#46 Post by muggins »

Uploaded v1.28.

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#47 Post by muggins »

Uploaded v1.30.

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#48 Post by jrb »

I have packaged gCAD3D and its 3 dependencies as ch-gCAD3D-1.30.sfs. You will still need OpenGL.

I am not a CAD user (yet!) but so far it seems to run well in ChoicePup 412 and should run as well in other pups. The help function doesn't find a browser but the numerous help files may be accessed in /usr/local/gCAD3D/doc.

Thanks Muggins, J

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#49 Post by muggins »

jrb,

I wonder which browser you're using? As browser works with p412, (although there are some docs missing in English as haven't been translated.)

If you run, in console:

/usr/local/gCAD3D/gCAD3D

does it detect your browser?

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#50 Post by jrb »

muggins wrote:I wonder which browser you're using?
Netsurf is my defaulthtmlviewer and browser until another is loaded. I was running Opera as my defaultbrowser when I tried accessing help files.
If you run, in console: /usr/local/gCAD3D/gCAD3D
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 **** kein HTML-Browser gefunden
** ERROR: cannot find a browser to display file  /usr/local/gCAD3D/doc/gCAD3D_startMAN_en.htm
If I go to the /doc subfolder I can click on any of the htm files and they open in netsurf.

I'd try it in p412 but I don't have that setup with OpenGL. Maybe I'll do that later this evening.

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#51 Post by muggins »

Unfotunately I can't see any easy way to specify a browser. I'11 send a query to the developer.

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Trying Bricscad 9 (the last edition)

#52 Post by xandas »

First I installed Bricscad 6 downloaded from the Bricsys page, native Linux.
It a trial for 30 days (or runs?).
It is good but old, and not runs with the fluidity needed in for a CAD user.
Now I am trying the version 9 (the latest one), in Muppy 083f.
I dont uninstalled the 6 version.
I downloaded the v.9 seeking in Google "Bricscad Portable".
It runs so good as the Win version.
Really a good program, and it runs in Muppy faster than Autocad in Windows. It is nearly full compatible.
It is not free, but it is a cheaper alternative.

I discover that Muppy 083f (and 084) is the most complete an solid version of Puppy I tried. Really the first version to make a complete windows replacement.
The linux programs runs very well, and a lot of windows programs too.
Thanks Mark.

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#53 Post by muggins »

Uploaded v1.32.

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#54 Post by charlie6 »

Hi Muggins,
muggins wrote:Uploaded v1.32.
Thanks a lot for your job as also jrb's .sfs !
I tried the 1.30.sfs and it runs straight forward (need xorg.xorg.....full-dri.pet - which I don't remind exactly the syntax).
Using gcad3d is rather unusual when used to Autocad or even QCad. I'm now learning to work with (when I have time to) with the goal to use it more intensively for my job for 3D structures design. It looks promising.
I'll tell the forum more in the future - don't know when...
Cheers
Charlie

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#55 Post by muggins »

Charlie,

good to hear you're getting to grips with using gCAD3D...I've never used
any CAD programs, so would be of no help if you had any queries...Image

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#56 Post by charlie6 »

Hi,
after sfs4 conversion, ch-gCAD3D-1.sfs tested on puppy 4.3 k2.6.30.5: won't run.
Should it be kernel version sensible?
OpenGL is working though.

here is the error message when running gCAD3D from terminal:

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# ./gCAD3D
...
GUI_Tx_Win 
GUI_Pix /usr/local/gCAD3D/xa/xa_logo.xpm
The program '<unknown>' received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadMatch'.
  (Details: serial 935 error_code 8 request_code 144 minor_code 5)
  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
   To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
   option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
#
also tested on puppy4.3 k2.6.25.16: OK! after getting OpenGL working

Cheers
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#57 Post by muggins »

charlie6,

I don't know about the .sfs, but the current .pet, v1.32, seems to work, providing you install only openGL & libgtkgl-2.0.so.1.0.0.pet. I just tried it on p430, kernel 2.6.30.5, and was at first mystified when my graphics were corrupted. But then I see that libgio is already included in p430, so after removing save file, and just installing gCAD3D, openGL & libgtkgl-2.0, it seems to run OK.

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#58 Post by muggins »

I've also amended the first post to advise people Not to install libgio, if using p430. And it appears that libselinix isn't needed for p430 as well.

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#59 Post by charlie6 »

Hi Muggins, thank you for your time!
muggins wrote:I've also amended the first post to advise people Not to install libgio, if using p430. And it appears that libselinix isn't needed for p430 as well.
I have to admit that I am a bit "lizy" as a .sfs file is more convenient to install than a heap of pets...:-)
I'll have a try on those pets.
cheers, charlie

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Re: gCAD3D: a 3D CAD program

#60 Post by charlie6 »

Hi Muggins,
I have tried the pets on page 1...thanks again for them !
question 1
N.B. Just tried it on Barry's latest p430 release and, besides needing openGL ...
Could you help how to get OpenGL working on latest pup430 final?
No success using the xorg_xorg_full_dri-7.3.pet :-( (snif!)

On one machine with basic Intel-845G-graphic-onboard I did not get OpenGL working whereas xorg_xorg_full_dri-7.3.pet installed
(glxinfo gives a very short comment; does not even tell "direct rendering:No"; seems really not being working on the new kernel);
whereas on the same machine running pup430 k2.6.25.16 + xorg_xorg_full_dri-7.3.pet it tells "direct rendering: Yes" +gCAD3D .working;

On a second machine with NVIDIA Ge6 graphic card, using gray's Nvidia.pet drivers (thanks gray ! - see here
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 972#341972) - that driver has laready OpenGL in it - I got this:
- gcad3d working on pup430 k2.6.25.16
- gcad3d NOT working on pup430 k2.6.30.5

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# glxinfo         [i]on pup430 k2.6.30.5[/i]
name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
...
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 6200SE TurboCache(TM)/PCI/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 185.18.36
...
thank you for your reply
cheers, charlie

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