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#21 Post by davids45 »

G'day gposil,

A little bit more from Lenny Woof land,

I've readily switched my frugal dpup476 with its upup476-derived save-file, into my frugal-filled sfs3.1-friendly partition.

My various 3.1 version sfs files loaded happily in during booting dpup (eg OO3, wine with Office97 and some other XP programs in the sfs, games, media players).

Still have to set up Xorg each time I start dpup and it still requires button-holding to shut off the computer on closing down.

Struggling with some media players (xine is missing a lib file that had not worried any previous frugal pup - libssh2.so.1?) but I got immediately good sound with my sfs mplayer in dpup.

Anyway, when you get around to uploading your next dpup, could you identify which version of sfs files will be required for frugal users?

<idle thought> Is there a need for a script or change in the boot manager to differentiate 3 and 4 type sfs files and appropriately mount both types or exclude the wrong type?

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#22 Post by tubby »

@davids45
Look in /tmp before shutting down and if you have a videomode file delete it and you should be able to shutdown through menu.

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#23 Post by davids45 »

G'day tubby,
Looking now in dpup's /tmp, I can't see a videomode.anything file.
A few xorg... files, pup_event..... files, and a few others.
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#24 Post by tubby »

If there is no video file, delete the whole of the tmp folder and then try shutting down via the menu.

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#25 Post by Sit Heel Speak »

davids45 wrote:...it still requires button-holding to shut off the computer on closing down.
Yesterday I encountered this same problem on an eMachine, with MS-7061 (N1996) mainboard.

Here's what cured it:

1. Go in at bootup with Del into BIOS Setup and choose "Load Fail-Safe Defaults". F10, save and exit.

2. Then, turn machine off, disconnect power supply from wall outlet, move the jumper at JBAT from its normal running position of 2-3 to its "reset CMOS" position of 1-2 for a few seconds, move it back to 2-3, reconnect power supply and switch the PSU on, then switch machine on.

3. Go into BIOS Setup again. Power Management Setup --> IRQ/Event Activity Detect, set everything to Off, None, or Disabled. At the bottom, IRQs Activity Monitoring, press Enter. Temporarily change "Primary INTR" to ON, then scroll down and change all interrupts 3-15 to "Disabled." Now change Primary INTR back to OFF.

4. F10, Save and Exit.

Now the machine turns off as expected.

I had to go back into BIOS Setup and restore a few of my client's personal preferences, like NumLock Off and S.M.A.R.T. drive monitoring enabled. But this procedure did make the computer turn-offable again. I should perhaps note here that IPCA function can be left "Enabled" and indeed even Suspend Mode can be switched to "Enable", so, if you can get the kernel tuned for it, Suspend is still available.

HTH, SHS

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#26 Post by gposil »

dpup-476b is up here...http://www.gposil.com/test/woof-alpha9/ ... 6.29.4.iso

Changes:

1.) Uses sfs 4 now
2.) kernel now 2.6.29.4
3.) Remaster script now works
4.) Shutdown and save now to seems to work(at least in my machines)
5.) Pmusic replaced by Bmp...works well
6.) New default wallpaper...still got to change default icons
7.) Pet Package Manager seems to work fine even with lenny repos, but still doesn't pick up all depends...but getting there...
8.) A few other small things I can't remember...

devx for 476b will be up in an hour or so...just check directory...http://www.gposil.com/test/woof-alpha9/dpup/dpup476b/

md5's are there too...

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#27 Post by Jim1911 »

Tried a frugal installation of your latest dpup476b, however it hangs up loading kernel modules. I'll try a new download and report back.
EDIT: New download had same problem.

Looking forward to your gnome version.
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#28 Post by gposil »

The checksum on dpup-476b-2.6.29.4 was wrong...so re-uploading now.... :oops:

Also uploading dpup-476b-2.6.27.4, as the earlier kernel works better on the full variety of pc's i've tested..

http://www.gposil.com/test/woof-alpha9/dpup/

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#29 Post by gposil »

After a days work on dpup-476b-2.6.27.4, i've decided to concentrate on it as the base for future work...it seems to be far more stable and I have included the following:

1.) Uses sfs3
2.) Working gxine
3.) Pmusic replaced by Bmp (with extra skins)
4.) ffmpeg included
5.) Remaster now works
6.) Saves and closes down correctly now.
7.) Abiword and Gnumeric work now.
8.) Timezone setting fixed.

Much more to come and that gnome desktop and synaptic....

dpup-476b-2.6.27.4 will be up in a few hours, all versions at http://www.gposil.com/test/woof-alpha9/dpup/

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#30 Post by ttuuxxx »

I'm glad you switch to sfs3, I've hated that sfs4 from day one, its a pain to use older sfs, you have to convert them, or make pets out of them, really it was stupid of the sfs developers not to make it compatible with previous versions, I hope they don't do that with sfs5 :wink:
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#31 Post by gposil »

Hi ttuuxxx,

You going to get time soon to get back into dpup...I think we could make it great... :)
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#32 Post by ttuuxxx »

gposil wrote:Hi ttuuxxx,

You going to get time soon to get back into dpup...I think we could make it great... :)
Soon I hope, But 2.14X is getting really good, I'm actually liking it a lot, more than any previous puppy, Well It Dpup didn't have so many bugs it would be the same the level, Just that your version is all gnomed up :) Nothing wrong with gnome, but I would rather get the base solid and then expand, Last time I visited Dpup, I had it pretty solid, after about a month of fixing things like the compiler, would probably be better to start from scratch since that was like alpha 3.
I would say probably about 1 month maybe a bit less, we almost have all the bugs ironed out of the next release, then its just a few last application/devx updates and by then should be finished for a bit.
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#33 Post by 01micko »

Hi

This dpup is certainly quick. Just downloaded it. I notice I must use wget, through a browser it fails every time.

Nice first impressions, using my old P3 with 256. It seems the quickest pup so far on this thing.

Thanks

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#34 Post by ttuuxxx »

01micko wrote:Hi

This dpup is certainly quick. Just downloaded it. I notice I must use wget, through a browser it fails every time.

Nice first impressions, using my old P3 with 256. It seems the quickest pup so far on this thing.

Thanks

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Yes Mick thats what I was saying before 2.14X, Still I think on faster computers like mine, Dpup is faster, but it will take a lot more system resources than 2.14X, after bootup if you run htop, its using 32MB.
214Xis a fully functional non cutdown puppy :)
But for some reason Dpup always feels quicker, I really think we went wrong with Upup, I think that the full puppy support should of went to Dpup, it feels more stable also, The screen is so shaky.
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#35 Post by Béèm »

gposil wrote:After a days work on dpup-476b-2.6.27.4, i've decided to concentrate on it as the base for future work...it seems to be far more stable and I have included the following:

1.) Uses sfs3
2.) Working gxine
3.) Pmusic replaced by Bmp (with extra skins)
4.) ffmpeg included
5.) Remaster now works
6.) Saves and closes down correctly now.
7.) Abiword and Gnumeric work now.
8.) Timezone setting fixed.

Much more to come and that gnome desktop and synaptic....

dpup-476b-2.6.27.4 will be up in a few hours, all versions at http://www.gposil.com/test/woof-alpha9/dpup/

Cheers
With all these announcements, I feel unsure which one to take.
Tried this one, as it seems to be the basis to continue on, unless gposil says otherwise.

Had an error message after boot. See pic.

Seems to be support for my dual processors (seen in htop)

But the very disappointing thing is the lack to support my second esata attached (in a bay) HDD. This seems to be a problem in other flavors as well. upup 466 does support the second HDD however.
The bad thing is, all my important data is on this second HDD.
So this dpup appears to be a show stopper.
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#36 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hey Beem, wasn't the last time you tried dpup on your pc you had a kernel panic, and this time your able to use it and even see both cpu's? And you call a simple little thing like a missing hard drive a show stopper, naaaaaaa come on, this is like 300X better than the last one you seen :) A real show stopper is a kernel panic on boot, as long as you can boot and go online really I don't consider it a show stopper, You still have functionality, It the past people 'One person in particular' comes to mind, lol about applications being a show stopper, the show doesn't stop because of of one or 2 faulty apps, really If the system freezes that should be a show stopper. lol really just pulling your leg :), I was bored waiting for ffmpeg to compile, lol Its all good.
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#37 Post by Béèm »

ttuuxxx wrote:Hey Beem, wasn't the last time you tried dpup on your pc you had a kernel panic, and this time your able to use it and even see both cpu's? And you call a simple little thing like a missing hard drive a show stopper, naaaaaaa come on, this is like 300X better than the last one you seen :) A real show stopper is a kernel panic on boot, as long as you can boot and go online really I don't consider it a show stopper, You still have functionality, It the past people 'One person in particular' comes to mind, lol about applications being a show stopper, the show doesn't stop because of of one or 2 faulty apps, really If the system freezes that should be a show stopper. lol really just pulling your leg :), I was bored waiting for ffmpeg to compile, lol Its all good.
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The last dpup I tried was 014. As far as I remember boot was ok.
In the meantime tried a lot of things, but not being able to access your vital data, seems to be a show stopper to me. :P
Will try with acpi=off.
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#38 Post by Béèm »

No joy with acpi=off. Did work in some upup versions.
btw: I see a compile error. 8)
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#39 Post by Béèm »

Now tried the 29.4 kernel version.
Had to use acpi=off.
Get the kernel panic message now.

So apparently dpup doesn't suite my hw. :cry:
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#40 Post by James C »

Downloaded and tried both kernel versions on my regular Linux machine. 800 mhz P3, 256 mb ram w/ 1 gb swap and Intel 82810 onboard graphics.

Both seem pretty quick and most everything works .......except XORG. Had to use xvesa with both kernels the only Puppy or Puplet where that has been necessary.

I'll test on some different equipment later.

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