dpup-47x for testing

[jduffy22335]

Hi jduffy22335,

have you checked whether the zd1211rw kernel module is loading...check in wizard wizard, puppy startup

The module appears to be loading and is not in the list of available modules, It does appear in the list of modules to blacklist, so I believe it is trying to load without success. Thanks.

Note: moved up to the dup476c version.

Additional look in this area has me puzzled. New Full install to ext2 at 14 Gigs on SDB3 achieves proper zd1211 drivers loading, but frugal to SDA1 (NTFS) or SDB1 (VFAT) both seem to miss the firmware. These were all created from the same folder of the extracted ISO 476c ???

To add more confusion, it seems I have leftover driver archives and extracted folders in root/tmp for "clean" no save install ! Could setup be not extracting the firmware correctly for frugal

Log info follows:

Frugal Install error:
phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'pid'
ecb: Unknown symbol blkcipher_walk_done
ecb: Unknown symbol blkcipher_walk_virt
ecb: Unknown symbol crypto_blkcipher_type
phy0: Failed to initialize wep: -2
usb 8-5: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2
zd1211rw: probe of 8-5:1.0 failed with error -2

Full Install to sdb3 (ext2): Works !
usb 8-5: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2
phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'pid'
zd1211rw 8-5:1.0: phy0
usbcore: registered new interface driver zd1211rw

Thanks for any insight, still learning ! Loving the Dpup

[gposil]

following jduffy22335's lead, I did a full install of 476c and I am blown away...suddenly lots of things that didn't work do and the speed, makes my 4.1.2 full install look like a snail...I have got to get the niggly bits right on the run from cd and frugal, and this will be a flyer....

[Béèm]

OK then.
Made a dummy pup_save and configuration data like keyboard, X etc.. were saved now.
Unfortunately, my wireless card isn't recognized.
The driver RT73usb isn't in this distribution.
I got the necessary modules and firmware from my upup 466 install and copied them to the dpup 476 one. But when trying to load, the module wasn't found. Maybe something else has to be done, I don't know.

I didn't find my previous notes back yet, but did a quick test.
Kernel 2.6.29.1 isn't the only salvation, as I could boot and use the second HDD with Mu's New Year's Pup rc10. The kernel here is 2.6.28.5 (single processor) and puppy 4.1.1

Further I tried pup42smp (I think it's Aragon's smp version) of puppy 4.20 and at kernel 2.6.29.1 and the second HDD was seen and could be used.

I tried ppup 413 (kernel 2.6.25.16) and slaxer 4.12 (kernel 2.6.27.7) but none of these showed the second HDD. The first one was ok.

So that's it for the moment. Hope it shed some light.

[gposil]

....I'm going to recompile the 2.6.27.4 kernel with the missing modules...hopefully that should fix your problem Béèm...will release that as 476d...in a day or two..i'm web site building at the moment...PetStore.

[Béèm]

OK gposil. There is no hurry.
I was glad already there is movement in dpup.

Your web site looks promising.
If I may permit, did you think in including a search facility?

[gposil]

Yes Béèm there will be Package search as well as text search...

[Béèm]

Yes Béèm there will be Package search as well as text search...

Good to hear that.

[davids45]

G'day,
I tried the dpup-476c last night.

Used the acpi=off boot parameter and successfully added a frugal 476c install using the Universal Installer.

Like Béèm, I found that I had now had no wireless network - we have the same model Medion computer. The eth0 connection was fine.

There is a long delay (black screen) between telling the Xorg wizard what settings to use and the appearance of the cursor. I have not seen this on any other Pup where they are very quick to go from wizard to display.

Seamonkey in dpup476c is the old Mail-less version - so I installed ttuuxxx's Pup-specific 1.1.15 pet which nicely overwrote the Mail-less 1.1.14 Seamonkey & Sylpheed as defaults. Seamonkey 2.0 also installed nicely and seperately albeit with a too-small font. (I use Seamonkey for emails and only secondarily as a browser. So Sylpheed is also redundant for me).

dpup476c still uses the 3.1 type of sfs file - is this a function of the kernel? I have no problem with either 3 or 4 type of sfs file but I would like to know beforehand which sfs type the particular Pup uses so I can install the frugal into the appropriate partition. Now I check when I'm on the Live CD by trying to mount an sfs of one type - if I get an error, then I know it uses the other type of sfs.
Once frugally installed, my existing range of 3.1 sfs ran well in the dpup476c - I assume 6 is still the limit of sfs files to boot up with?

Dual cores very quick with this dpup when I play Bubbles. I did notice the Universal Installer suggested adding nosmp on the Grub menu.lst line (which I ignored). Installer was otherwise good.

Multimedia was good (noise & pictures).

Shutting down still doesn't totally power off the computer - system halts OK, and re-booting to another Pup or XP is also OK.

Thanks for what you've put together so far.

David S.

[Béèm]

Shutting down still doesn't totally power off the computer - system halts OK, and re-booting to another Pup or XP is also OK.

I suppose this is due to the acpi=off boot option.
Therefor I would like to be able to boot correctly with acpi=on, as there are other side effects to device detection not being done correctly maybe.

I don't know what implies working with acpi=off and what functionality I would loose. Somethinh like suspend or hibernation functionality? Other?

[Béèm]

Davids45 reminded me at the acpi=off trick.
I retried (did forget about the results) it on upup 476 and I got indeed the second HDD.

Without the acpi=off boot parm boot freezes at ...308K memory freed.

upup 476 uses kernel 2.6.29.4

[gposil]

Sorry I haven't been back to anyone today...having major problems with satellite(skymesh) in OZ...it is still very erratic and goes offline at the drop of a hat...

I have started recompiling 2.6.27.4...2.6.29.4 not an option as uniproc in Barry's kernel...and I want to keep the multi-core support as it runs very nicely....

Have tracked down quite a few missing kernel modules and will hopefully give 476d a real boost...also, one point i'm not sure of, I don't have to acpi=off to boot and run 476c so there must be other kernel issues involved here, anyway 476d should address a lot of these problems with different hardware.

Cheers

[Béèm]

gposil, don't be sorry not to be there every day.

To inform about the latest test I made:
I am not as lucky as my soul mate in Medion MD 8818 affairs, davids45.
I tried the dpup 476b and dpup 476c with pfix=ram and acpi=off.
Boot is ok, but no second HDD (the esata)

I tried, with the same boot options, the dpup 476b kernel 2.6.29.1 and was blessed with a kernel panic.

Will try the dpup 476d when available and report back.

[gposil]

Hope to have 476d out later today...with a number of fixes including missing modules and the Gparted fixed, as well as shinobar's chooselocale fix...I must say at this stage that I will keep sfs3 for backward compatability...

BTW...I find the full install of dpup a very satisfying thing, it is fast and seems very stable...and it is so easy to install new software...I have been experimenting with SeaMonkey 2.0 and I think that 476e will have it replacing cut down 1.1.x and sylpheed...it's just so quick,...same core as ff 3.5.1...


Cheers

[tubby]

@posil,
One problem i have found with the dpup builds is when you try to remove packages on a full install that are user installed with package manager, it sometimes corrupts xorg.
Might be worth you trying it before releasing your next distro.
Keep up the good work, dpup is the way to go.

[gposil]

Just finishing final touches on 476d...will be up soon...

During testing I was able to get a fully working apt-get, so synaptic is only a download away...the downside, synaptic and depends is quite big, so I think we'll leave that as individual choice as to whether people want it...but apt will certainly be in 476e...quite small and very useful.

Cheers

[gposil]

For those that didn't know 476d is up

http://www.gposil.com/test/woof-alpha9/ ... -2.6.27.4/

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[Béèm]

Yesterday I saw 476d was available already and downloaded and tried.
As the forum was down, I couldn't report back then.

The second HDD (esata) is still not seen in spite of the pfix=ram and acpi=off boot options

As for the ralink rt73usb device, modules seems to be loaded, but no device attributed (should be wlan0), see the lsmod output

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# lsmod |grep rt
rt73usb                22528  0 
crc_itu_t               2944  1 rt73usb
rt2x00usb              11392  1 rt73usb
rt2x00lib              27776  2 rt73usb,rt2x00usb
rfkill                  9752  1 rt2x00lib
led_class               4996  1 rt2x00lib
mac80211              155292  2 rt2x00usb,rt2x00lib
cfg80211               24712  2 rt2x00lib,mac80211
agpgart                33352  1 via_agp
usbcore               131312  8 rt73usb,rt2x00usb,ati_remote,usb_storage,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
# 

And this is the device's interface info:

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Manufacturer=Ralink
Product=802.11 bg WLAN
VendorID=148f  ProductID=2573  KERNEL-MODULE=(none)

Hope this can help in the diagnosis of the problems.

[MinHundHettePerro]

Greetings!

Took dpup476d for a spin, it's very snappy on my old gear, PIII 533MHz 192 MB . Streaming internet radio works nicely on the music player, browsing is fast.

Ok, now over to the niggly-wigglies:

On boot-up I set my keyboard to "se"; with this setting it's impossible to mount my vfat partitions, using pmount or clicking the desktop drive icons.
Solution: I deleted "|se" from line 383 of /usr/sbin/pmount and from line 215 of /usr/local/bin/drive_all, deleted everything from /root/.pup_event, so the directories would be re-copied there. Now I can mount all drives by clicking the desktop drive icons, or by using pmount. This tinkering does not seem to affect any "se"-characters that are in the file-names .
I understand the intention of putting that code there but, unfortunately, it had to go for my "se"-keyboard.

Internal SCSI drives are not seen, evidently. Awaiting a SCSI-enabled kernel build.

Tried to run "curl -s ......" complaints: "curl: error while loading shared libraries: libssh2.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"

Manual frugal install in a subdirectory: Upon reboot, it pauses in the shutdown process to wait for confirmation that the optical drives are ejected (can insert them again, though) .

Apart from the niggly-wigglies mentioned above, it runs very nicely .

cheers/
MHHP

[davids45]

G'day,

A report of dpup476 on a dual core desktop with two SATA internal hard-drives with 14 partitions on each, plus some usbs.
The dpup-d Live CD ran well with no odd start-up typing required (just pfix=ram).
The 30 odd partition icons did not default space nicely across the desk-top, bunching up in the bottom right corner (Pup214x7 has fixed this giving two rows of drive icons).
Used the Universal Installer for a frugal install - no problems for my set-up. Don't know how it would be for a new (non-grub-already) install.

Re-boot via grub was Ok but I did briefly see a "fatal error" flash by as the kernel modules loaded. A slight black-screen delay before Xorg's cursor appeared.
But dpup openned with no major problems. I relocated the bunched icons into two rows and switched to a nicer-looking icon set.
Eth0 connection was good (I use a static IP) but no wireless was found. So I clicked the wizard through to use ndiswrapper which set up wlan0 without problem.

Re-booted to set up my dpup476 save file and saw the same flash-by "fatal error" line during kernel loading but dpup was again fine and the network and desktop changes were intact.
Opted to boot-load several sfs3 files via boot manager, installed a few small pets, added Seamonkey 1.1.15v1 (I have a large and growing e-mail archive so Sylpheed is useless for me) and re-booted.

Everything was good, the sfs files were there, both network connections were established, the dual cores were active. Bubbles was almost as fast with dpup as with aragon's 4.2 SMP 2.6.30.1 kernel version (my benchmark test champion - no wonder the bubbles break!).

When I decided to turn off the computer, not re-boot, the system halted OK but as before with earlier dpups, the power did not switch off. A minor glitch if you're not used to clicking the turn off button and just walking away - I was surprised to come back a few hours later and see the monitor display still on.

I've yet to try getting a deb package which should be an important test for this Woofer.

In summary, I found d is a good step forward from c on my computer.

Thanks for your Puplet,

David S.

[gposil]

Thanks David and MinHundHettePerro,

great feedback...the kernel is still a slight problem(flash by module errors) ... but i've raised the prob with Barry and i'm going to do a complete 2.6.27 kernel rebuild for 476e, which should address a multitude of sins...

In my own testing, on a full install of 476d, i've got apt and synaptic running beautifully...i've just got to do some scripting to get apt to recognize the base installed packages and then the sky will be the limit for this pup...

BTW...i've installed a number of deb packages now and can report that, in principle there is no problem...just the recognition of the base install.(i.e the dependencies that are already installed).

I hope that ttuuxxx will get some time soon to contribute his considerable knowledge. The dpup experiment is IMHO a worthwhile extension to the future of Puppy in so many ways...'A Stable Rock Solid Base' that Debian always has been.

Thanks for all the continued testing, we will get it right.

Cheers
Guy