Dev-Pup (Released v1.0)

[alseycolemanmiller]

ok the main updates i wanted for Dev-Pup 1.0 was the mingwstudio and gtkbasic however i cannot use them as they will not open no matter what i do after installation. unless i can manage to get a newer version or a good a3ternate to these Dev-Pup 1.0 will not release...
Nekroze

Glad ya didn't release it yet. MinGWstudio is a PUP file and I installed it on Dev-pup 0.9 beta nad worked fine. Gonna give ya my version.

Also... firefox could replace seamonkey and please fix vlc or put Gxine and VLC. VLC player doesn´t work for me (hope its already fixed in dev-pup 1.0).
gootta go. post alter tody!

[Nekroze]

Last thoughts before i pass out for the night.

i think i may scrap xfce if it becomes to much of a problem, will also scrap vlc for gxine but maybe both... will see how sizing goes if i scrap xfce and if i do i may just stick with icewm or jwm the main reluctance to use jwm as the main wm to be packaged over icewm(atleast original thoughts before xfce) was because jwm lack alot of style and although it was basic it felt to basic where as the nicer slick of icewm and the size mad it a nice alternative so the more i think of it i may just as well stick with icewm but perhaps do a slightly more custom theme for Dev-Pup.

also as much as i LOVE Firefox the reason i choose to leave it out of Dev-Pup in favor of SeaMonkey is because SeaMonkey is a full suite of mail, html editor and another i forgot ontop of a browser with most all the major Firefox must have add-ons.

its more that it contains more in one package that i keep with it and it seems the same for the general full puppy over the last while now and i suspect the reasoning is the same.

thanks for the pup aswell mate,
Nekroze

[muggins]

Nekrose,

MinGWStudio probably isn't working for you due to missing gtk1 libraries. Whenever any binary doesn't work, the first thing to check is that all it's library dependencies are met, with ldd:

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ldd /usr/local/MinGWStudio/MinGWStudio

If you are missing gtk1 libs, then you would probably need:

glib12-1.2.10.pet (53k)
gtk+12-1.2.10.pet (522k)
gdk_pixbuf10-0.22.0.pet (121k)

[alseycolemanmiller]

Are there anymore bugs? if so please make a list of them so me and other people might help.

[Nekroze]

Thanks for that will test them soon, much appreciated.

bugs other then the pwidgets thing which is just annoying and has brought me to just remove it in coming versions, apart from that the only other major thing i know of at all at this point is first-

alsey mentioned problems with vlc i have know clue why but am very willing o put that under older hardware as the cause.

apart from that with the current version i was having problems with the next release with xfce in that after using it and remastering it was no longer the WM that it opened in boot and that i could not get the themes or menus to save to the new remastered copy.

Thanks i will add them to the issues list on the second post(atleast the ones to do with the current released version.

Nekroze

[Nekroze]

Seriously at this point the only major software changes to Dev-Pup 1.0 release will be QEMU and minGWstudio really.... as this is the case i can probably get the new Dev-Pup up and out to you all in a few hours but with such a small amount of actual real additions i don't feel comfortable doing so please anyone with other software that they have found useful for creating software please tell me.

but i think i will begin to just make Dev-Pup 1.0 now with those additions i hope that this will be ok thank you all.
Nekroze

[Nekroze]

OK ALL!

Dev-Pup1.0-Devx412.iso is uploading at the moment although slow as hell it says it will be done between 3 and 7 hours from now so its night time here ill leave it overnight then alter the OP in the morning for the new version

Grats all it is not a large amount of change from the Beta but is dose bring it out of a concept and beta kind of stage.

Nekroze

[alseycolemanmiller]

cool, so here in South America it's 11:48 AM so i´ll wait for tomorrow.
About VLC does it work for you??? i don´t think its because of my hardware... it must be missing libraries if it doesn´t work on any PC.

PS. need more people to try this out so its not just U and me.
Plus I homeschool so we need somebody else active here too besides us too test this.

Not worried if nobody wants to contribute to free software but I sure am.

(PLEASE MAKE A FULL CHANGELOG AND A FULL BUGLIST!!!)

[Tui]

Hi all, I have d/l this latest version and can't get it to run,
worked ok in version 0.9 - so what has been missed ?

Also can't get the Qemu to work !

Iam still testing other parts of this version

[Nekroze]

what do you mean by cant get it to run...

if you mean you cannot get it to boot i don't see why not it boots on mine fine try puppy pfix=ram just to test that....

but you say you cannot get qemu to work but that indicates you got it to boot. with qemu in Dev-Pup you place any iso of a bootable disc into /root/ and run qemu.

you may have to run in xvesa just to get it to work though as even on my main rig i needed to do that when runing any puppy under qemu.

if you are not running puppy under it you may have to change the launch script as it comes stock at using 256mb's of ram you may need to fiddle with that you can find out where that file is by the icon on the desktop go to its location and edit the launch script as text file.

i need some more details on what you say is and is not working.

thank you for testing it aswell though,
Nekroze

[Nekroze]

Updated most of the content in the OP to the tune of Dev-Pup 1.0 release!

[Tui]

Sorry Nekroze a little slipup, my thinking and typing not in sync.

Problem is the Blender, won't run something omitted in this one ok in previous version maybe, I have a sick d/l and burn ?!

Also your in last post - OP whats' that your talking about?

Cheers Tui

[Nekroze]

Sorry about that first up OP is Original Post. as in the title post for this topic.

recently with blender i have had some problems i will do some testing in this area imideatly however i know that all the dependancies where included so it could be something else weird.

either way thanks alot for your feedback it is very important especially in that blender dose not work that is a big one in the way of Dev-Pups features.

Thank you once again and any more thoughts or feedback please drop me a line here or if it is a more detailed or larger message anyone can reach me almost anytime at nekroze.lives@gmail.com

Humbled,
Nekroze

[Nekroze]

I have found the problem with blender it was actually the fact that the Xorg base that Dev-Pup uses dose not include any form of DRI and i thought that would not be too much of a problem as it removes size not t have it but anyway

For a write up on it and the link to the Pet file to fix this has been appended to the second post for Issues and coming features.

[alseycolemanmiller]

Things to do in Dev-Pup:
-try to get Dev-Pup on a diet. I need to find out what is not needed in this full working environment?
-some more customization to add to the visual comfort of it all.
-Include some more packages for graphical development. it seems that the programming side of Dev-Pup overpowers the graphical at the moment.

Known Issues:
- Dev-Pup 1.0 cannot run blender as it needs Xorg to have DRI support this was stripped to combat fat but was not listed as a dependency for blender
-Download the Fix Here.

anything to either add to these list's or to help asses the issues or thoughts in this list from you all is much appreciated.

Thank you all,
Nekroze

broken link.

[Lobster]

Running it now

You have enclosed a free version of MS Visual Basic 6?
The error message 'Can't find file MSVBVM60.DLL' came up

By the way
The VLC videoplayer - played my ASF files very well
So that is something for me to investigate

Back to 4.3 Beta 1 for me

[alseycolemanmiller]

sorry the link is NOT broken, but it had a extra //url at the end. delete that and everything's cool. when I click on the link this is what I get:

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http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet_packages-4/xorg_xorg_dri-7.3-1.pet//url

it should be:

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http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet_packages-4/xorg_xorg_dri-7.3-1.pet

Please edit that and:

Get your Dev-Pup 0.9-b right here!
http://www.filefront.com/14438031/Dev-P ... vx412.iso/
MD5sum: 1a8135f4881415b32cfa0d1626ffc6da
ChangeLog download link here

The link is fine but don´t put

Get your Dev-Pup 0.9-b

UPDATE it to the current version please!

[Nekroze]

OMG i cant believe i missed those.

first i also included the VB6 runtime installer in it its just beside the VB6 exe.

although it sounds noob-ish to blame things like this but at the time i was tired enough to almost miss going to the toilet......

stumbling i mean lol! that sounded bad but you get the point the meds im on are a bit much some times.

fixed both the ChangeLog link and the Blender Fix link and i have some news on future Dev-Pup developments and ill only give away a base factor:

i will be building it from the ground up with Puppy unleashed!

this is all so fun!
Nekroze

[alseycolemanmiller]

Cool. I´m using qemu and works fine! The wine apps needs to be fixed. you should install gecko or put the gecko installer in the wine apps folder. I put Foxit PDF reader which is a portable standalone and works without installation. I´m trying to put just SHED (simple hex editor) which is less than 1 MB so maybe you could put that on your next version. (or it should be included in the devx SFS file).

It's stable and I use JWM so with only 128 RAM on my pentiumIII I can kill non-responding windows.

I think the logo is sorta freaky, my dad saw the DEV-PUP wallpaper and he though it meant DEVil-PUP, haha.

Besides that if you´re making a fat version then install the libraries for wine too please.

Thats all!

[Nekroze]

hey again all, i have been a bit inactive of late but i have been forced to have a bit of downtime, this was initiated by some unwanted medical reasoning that is complicated but suffice to say it has been a difficult time.

i have taken the time to post here to tell you all that i have not and will not stop work on Dev-Pup i still intend on making it grow and become something i can truly be proud of so please keep supporting it and throwing down some suggestions and i will do my best.

thanks for understanding,
Nekroze