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archwndas

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PostPosted: Sun 30 Aug 2009, 11:10    Post subject:  

Hi there,
I did as you instructed me to do so. I installed this package and rebooted. On the next reboot the firmware was there, in /lib/firmware but the module is not loaded. I load the module manually and again I see the same thing. nothing. Zero. I mean that keeping the firmwares in /lib/firmware did not pay off. The module is there, you can see it in lsmod along with its dependencies, but the wlan0 or eth1 or whatever does not appear in
#ifconfig -a

I will try to copy the files where puppy keeps them so it is not confused (maybe the script is confused if it finds the firmware in /lib/firmware) who knows ... This is my last hope.

.......

Later the same day ... No guys. It doesn't work. I replaced the file in /lib/modules/all-firmware/ (the iwlsomething.tar.gz) with a new one including the new firmware. I also removed the new firmware from /lib/firmware. The result was that unfortunately even the module now was not loaded and no messages about in dmsg incuded the keywork firmware. Still the wireless interface wlan0 doesn't appear. I only see the lo and eth0 (ethernet).
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kirk

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PostPosted: Sun 30 Aug 2009, 15:14    Post subject:  

archwndas,

I just checked the firmware package iwlwifi.tar.gz that Fatdog has in it. I don't think it contains the firmware for your card. It's too old. Do this in this order:

1) delete the /lib/modules/all-firmware/iwlwifi.tar.gz

2) Download and install http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-iwlwifi_0.17_all.deb

3) Reboot.

The iwlwifi.tar.gz tarball might have been overwriting some of the new firmware when you rebooted.

If iwconfig still shows nothing. Please post the output of :

dmesg | grep firmware

You can copy text from the terminal by highlighting it and then pressing the shift and Delete keys at the same time. Then click on the Glipper icon in the tray and select the text you just copied, then you can paste it.

If the module is not loading now, something else might have broken, you can try opening a terminal and type:

modprobe iwlagn
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archwndas

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PostPosted: Sun 30 Aug 2009, 19:52    Post subject:  

dear friend Kirk, I copied from my Debian-lenny installation /lib/firmware everything on a directory where I extracted the .deb package you suggested. Basically only one file was different. This was the file:

iwlwifi-5000-2.ucode

So, I extracted everything from the .deb file to a directory, then I copied this iwlwifi-5000-2.ucode in that directory and run:

# tar cvzf iwlwifi.tar.gz thatDirectory

The this directory was copied back to /lib/modules/all-firmware and I rebooted. After reboot, the iwlwifi-5000-2.ucode was extracted to /lib/firmware but the iwlagn module was not loaded. I loaded it manually and got the message:

WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf, all config files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/.

This WARNING disappears if you create
#mkdir /etc/modprobe.d
#mv /etc/modprobe.conf /etc/modprobe.d

but either way I see no wlan0 or eth1 when I run ifconfig.

# dmesg | grep firmware (shows nothing)
#

I do not know why. And as it regards copy-pasting, my friend kirk, I have been using Linux from 2003, maybe before you do (maybe do not get insulted). As I said before, I am touched by your attempt to do a 64bit clone of Puppy and I will help you as much as I can. I also own several powerful multicore and multiprocessor servers and could even compile things for you if you want me to do so. We could discuss in private if you want.

P.S. BUGS:
--After first reboot when I am asked if I want encrypted or non-encrypted, I get not what I am selecting but the opposite one. I select non-encrypted and get encrypted.

--#vi (results in segmentation)
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kirk

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PostPosted: Sun 30 Aug 2009, 22:14    Post subject:  

Sorry Archwndas, I never know how much experience someone has. Did you say that the module was loading on it's own before and now it's not? If so you might want to try starting over with a new save file. Since that module has firmware associated with it, I would expect to see a request in dmesg. So if you still want to try, do this:

1) Make a new fdsave file.

2) Install the .deb package of firmware. Don't make a tarball and put in /lib/modules/all-firmware.

3) reboot

See if the module loads on it's own.
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tempestuous

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PostPosted: Sun 30 Aug 2009, 23:21    Post subject:  

There are two different versions of the IWL5000 firmware. Puppy provides the newer "2" version, but sometimes the older "1" version is required. See here -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=312576#312576
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archwndas

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PostPosted: Mon 31 Aug 2009, 12:24    Post subject:  

[quote]1) Make a new fdsave file.

2) Install the .deb package of firmware. Don't make a tarball and put in /lib/modules/all-firmware.

3) reboot
[/quote]

I apologize but I think that step 2 is not clear. You say,
[quote]Don't make a tarball and put in /lib/modules/all-firmware.[/quote]

Put which? The .deb package will install some files in /lib/firmware. You suggest I copy these files from /lib/firmware to /lib/modules/all-firmware ?[/quote]
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tempestuous

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PostPosted: Mon 31 Aug 2009, 19:42    Post subject:  

Why are you guys messing with deb files and Lenny?
Get the firmware files (both new version and older version) directly from Intel, the exact link is in my other post.
Extract them both into /lib/firmware

The two firmware files are -
iwlwifi-5000-1.ucode
iwlwifi-5000-2.ucode
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archwndas

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PostPosted: Tue 01 Sep 2009, 02:26    Post subject:  

I did that and it did not work. I mean got the 2 files directly from Intel. the 5000-2 file is directly from Intel. It is there in /lib/firmware and stil ....

#modprobe iwlagn

doesn't work. I mean the module is loaded but neither

#dmesg | grep firmware

nor

#ifconfig -a

show something interesting!
I think everything would be much easier (we could avoid any misunderstandings), if our friend Kirk, could create for us a .pet file with the latest FatDog-64 update for 5300 Intel Wifi chips which we could install and reboot after the very first boot of FatDog 64bit. Then everyone would know for sure what is going on, since what should be done would have been done the right way.

Will you Kirk?
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kirk

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PostPosted: Tue 01 Sep 2009, 22:56    Post subject:  

Quote:
Why are you guys messing with deb files and Lenny?


Archwndas, said it worked with Debian. Yep, should have looked on intel's site.

I'll include the updated firmware in alpha2.
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archwndas

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PostPosted: Wed 02 Sep 2009, 12:56    Post subject:  

Thanks Kirk. Thank you very much. That will ease testing. Are you thinking of implementing user accounts?
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kirk

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PostPosted: Wed 02 Sep 2009, 15:11    Post subject:  

Quote:
Are you thinking of implementing user accounts?


No. If you want support multiple users, use multiple fdsave (pup_save) files. I'll have to check into the encrypted save file problem you reported.
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archwndas

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Sep 2009, 14:49    Post subject:  

Kirk,

where can I check for new releases of Fatdog2 64bit Puppy? You see, I do not want alpha2 to be out and I be completely unaware ...

Cheers!
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Sep 2009, 09:33    Post subject:  

Booted up but could not find a working option for my graphic card (tried editing the xorg horizontal and vertical sync etc)
Nvidia GeForce 7025 - built into Athlon 64 Dual Core motherboard

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kirk

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PostPosted: Tue 08 Sep 2009, 20:44    Post subject:  

archwndas,

I'll post alpha2 in this Cutting edge section.


Lobster,

Linux and Xorg support for Nvidia isn't very good, but I guess your Nvidia card works with Puppy 4.1.2? I probably need to update the version of the Xorgwizard I'm using, it's a little old. Fatdog uses the last version of Xorg 7.3 server. I've updated some of the drivers, ATI, Intel (the latest for Xorg 7.3), and maybe Nvidia. Hope I didn't break somthing. I don't have a Nvidia card to test. If it does work with Puppy, take a look at the /etc/Xorg.conf that Puppy creates. In the "Device" section, see what is listed for the "Driver". You could also try using the xorg.conf file from Puppy in Fatdog, again, that's assuming that it works correctly in Puppy.

I'm out of town, so it might be a few days b4 I can check back in.
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Sep 2009, 22:12    Post subject:  

Quote:
your Nvidia card works with Puppy 4.1.2


yes and 4.2 and the latest 4.3 betas
So hope you upgrade xorg Smile

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