Puppy 4.3 Beta2 -- bugs and reports

[BarryK]

I would love to have the 2.6.25.16 kernel available now for my Asus EEE 900.

Tempestuous' fine eee drivers obviously won't work with the kernel in beta2--and even when I installed puppy-4.3beta1-k2.6.25.16-v423-SCSI.iso and used the delta update and my beta1 pupsave file, no joy with the wifi and acpi drivers.

Can't really offer any other test results, since some of my hardware now doesn't work (until those more learned than me can develop beta2 with the 2.6.25.16 kernel).

Jake

That is not a good reason for me to offer a build with the 2.6.25.16 kernel. It is far simpler for me and less confusing for users if there is just the one build to choose from.

Ask tempestuous if he can compile those eee drivers for you on the 2.6.30.5 kernel. He's an extremely helpful guy, I'm sure he won't mind.
Then I can include them in 4.3beta3.

[BarryK]

Hi,
on PIII600MHz 192MB Ram440MX frugall install with PUI on ext3 sda1; swap on sda2;
Boots and runs nice on live-cd !
I performed a frugall install on ext3 sda1; afterwards configured Grub (just copied the newgrubtext to menu.lst .... as I did much times before); I restarted with live-cd removed and got this message at boot-up:

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Grub Loading stage1.5
Grub loading, please wait.....
Error 2

at boot up.
I already did frugal install with puppy412 and 413 without any problem...
It looks trivial but do not find why?
Thanks for any advice
Charlie

Hmm, I wonder if there is a problem with GRUB patched with ext4. Could you kindly install this older pet package (as used in 4.1x):

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... b-0.97.pet

Then try the furgal installation again. Probably best to remove the previous install and do it completely again.

[BarryK]

I'll try this when the download takes less than the promised 2 hours.

I'm supposed to have an 8Mb download speed which can do 100 Mb in a few minutes, so I'm not sure what's wrong.

Caneri; are you planning to host this?

It would be ibiblio throttling the transfer speed.
Try an ibiblio mirror (if the latest files have got to them):

http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/puppylinux/
This site is hosted by the generosity of The Netherlands Unix User Group.

ftp://ftp.oss.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/d ... uppylinux/
You may find this faster than ibiblio in the USA.

[BarryK]

Hi Barry, thanks for the ALL back, as you say it is a bit slow
in finding all the files in A-Z Also shows the same problem
in moving thro' puppy4 - puppy3 - puppy2. A progress window would
be nice if that helps.

My next one is that IMAGINATION V1.5 opens large than my screen
set res 1024 x 768 and is smaller within 1280 x 1024 also very large
at 800 x 600 - Is it possible to have auto scale thro' the various
res. I wander how it looks on a small screen laptop ?

Re the ALL again it may be faster if I had a FULL install !


Tui

ps still testing

Re Imagination, you will have to contact the author to report any problems.

[edoc]

Just tried a dual-boot on an older Panasonic Toughbook CF-28 with WinXP and 4.31b2

WinXP loaded OK and 4.31b2 appeared to also be loaded OK - so we set up GRUB and rebooted - I get Error Loading Operating System when sda2 has the BOOT flag, and it boots directly into XP (which is on sda1) if I give sda1 the BOOT flag (no GRUB menu appears).

I do not have this problem on my other laptop where sda2 is BOOT and sda1 (containing XP) is not. I get the GRUB menu and may select which OS.

Could this be a generic corruption of GRUB or related to other reported GRUB problems in 4.31b2?

NOTE: I just deleted 4.31b2 and reloaded Puppy, recreating GRUB - exact same problem.

BTW: How do I explain the numbering? 424 on the splash screen but 4.31b2 is what we call it here. The guy to whom the CF-28 belongs was asking.

[playdayz]

Hmm, I wonder if there is a problem with GRUB patched with ext4. Could you kindly install this older pet package (as used in 4.1x):

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... b-0.97.pet

Then try the frugal installation again. Probably best to remove the previous install and do it completely again.

I have not been able to get a frugal install to boot--I never see the grub menu, all i see is an underscore at the top left of the screen, everything else blank--this is like when there is no boot disk.

I have tried ext 2 and ext 3. i feel like i am going crazy and overlooking something obvious since i have done frugal installs so many times. it didn't help to use the pet. the boot flag is set on the /dev/sda1 partition--grub menu is there in /boot/grub with the proper language from /tmp/Newgrubtext. Puppy is in /puppy424. sorry if i've got my head in a dark place

[ttuuxxx]

Hi yes ViewNior is a better choice as default image view, I had that in 2.14X for a bit, most people liked it, but I ended up removing it because Hairwills hacked version of Gpicview had extra functions like slideshow
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 09&t=37870
and it 31kb pet you couldn't complain about the size.

I have no idea why you overlooked gtkhash pet I made for puppy 4.3 beta 2, at 29kb pet package that has built in rox right click functions, So many users just love the way I set this this one up for puppy, its so easy to use. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 943#328943

I'm not really for any of the current icon themes, your new theme is I find is too business/.bland and you have 2 versions include??
Plus you reduced the mimes again, lol soon we'll have just 2 mimes, left lol.

I still prefer the 214X icon theme http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... h&id=21449
or even stardust, I like colours.

would like to see Gradient-grey as default gtk or http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... ue-1.3.pet

I'm glad to see Geany is back, Medit just wasn't Geany, didn't function as well.

I do like NicoEdit over Leafpad,

I still think Nathans wallpaper setter should be dropped for Gposil's, nothing better for wallpaper setter than a previewer, without it, your just guessing if you don't know what the images are via the file names.

All in all Barry this is a nice release, Very close, as functionality goes its tops, as visual goes, I guess each their own.

ttuuxxx

[playdayz]

Do those Flac and MP4 files have extension .flac and .mp4?

flac and more likely ".m4a" or ".aac" (.m4p are the apple copy-protected files--hopefully defunct by now). I usually see .mp4 for video.

[technosaurus]

I just tested 4.3 Beta 2 with my parents dell w/ nvidia card of unkown specific type. xorg didn't work on the first couple tries which was fine, I was just going to edit the xorg.conf or use xvesa. Unfortunately when I ctrl alt backspaced out and got the terminal back, the top third of the screen was unusable and another third went off the bottom of the screen so I was basically typing blind. I don't know if this is a bad download/burn, hardware issue, a bug in the xorg configure script or in the actual terminal. I couldn't do an md5 from their box, so feel free to disregard this completely, but just wondered if anyone else has experienced similar problems before. I am going to reboot and try to figure it out.

I agree with ttuuxxx geany is better, but honestly I really only need geany when I also have the devx.sfs is installed (for highlighting etc...). If you need the extra space that may be a good compromise.

[plaguedogs]

i just read edoc's post on the bottom of page 3. a couple weeks ago i had some problems with grub, my post is here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=45172

the linked post offers a couple work arounds, one is grub4dos, the other is to try to install grub with an older puppy, like 301. i was reading somewhere in barrys blog about a nasty grub bug, maybe my post, your post and barrys blog entry, are all related. hope it helps.

[tempestuous]

I would love to have the 2.6.25.16 kernel available now for my Asus EEE 900.

Jake, forget about the 2.6.25 kernel. The 2.6.30 kernel in Puppy 4.3b2 supports the Atheros AR5007EG wifi device with its standard ath5k module.

And Atheros N-mode wifi devices, as found in more recent Eee models, are supported by the standard ath9k module.

... of course, there will still be some "exotic" third-party modules which still need to be compiled, such as the Eee-fan module and the rtl8187se wifi module.

I will get around to these when Puppy's kernel version is finalised.

[veronicathecow]

Hi Barry, yes they are .mp4 and .flac extentions.
Cheers
Tony

[mawebb88]

Acer Aspire 5100 wifi not working as there is no ath_pci module (as for example there is in 412/421). Please can I have this added.

Rgds Mike.

[CRF]

I get the same Grub error too and am unable to go any further. Boots fine using live CD. I attempted a full hard drive install. I'm hoping that my broadcom wireless work with this, after I'm able to to boot it up.

[01micko]

Printing is working nicely for me to a windows printer over wireless.

Tested the test page, from Abiword, Geany and SeaMonkey mail... all worked as expected.

[BarryK]

2. There are no links to Gxine for Flac or MP4

Fixed, see http://puppylinux.com/blog/?viewDetailed=01044

[BarryK]

Hi yes ViewNior is a better choice as default image view, I had that in 2.14X for a bit, most people liked it, but I ended up removing it because Hairwills hacked version of Gpicview had extra functions like slideshow

Viewnior has slideshow feature.
In fact, I think Imagination should go, it isn't really necessary.

[BarryK]

I agree with ttuuxxx geany is better, but honestly I really only need geany when I also have the devx.sfs is installed (for highlighting etc...). If you need the extra space that may be a good compromise.

...that's an interesting thought. Yes, could save a lot of space by moving it to the devx, just have NicoEdit.
4.3beta2 has NicoEdit 0.16. I need to compile the latest from Nicholas and test it.

[charlie6]

Hi Barry,

Hmm, I wonder if there is a problem with GRUB patched with ext4. Could you kindly install this older pet package (as used in 4.1x):
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... b-0.97.pet
Then try the furgal installation again. Probably best to remove the previous install and do it completely again.

I boot on pup424's live-cd with pfix=ram option;
got installed grub-0.97.pet and restarted X afterwards (did not shutdown and reboot !);
I deleted and reformated sda1 as ext3 (no boot flag);
reinstalled pup424 using PUI;
installed and configured GRUB on MBR; and copied the newgrubtext to menu.lst;
rebooted with live-cd removed....and

got the same massage:

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Grub Loading stage1.5
Grub loading, please wait.....
Error 2

Thanks again for any advice
Charlie

[ps: partition to save pupsave.2fs to:
yesterday I first tried an ext4 sda1 format; at question where to save pupsave.2fs file, only the sda3 vfat partition was proposed - not sda1. This do not happens when formating sda1 as ext2 or ext3 formats]

[lluamco]

This is an improved copy of a comment on Barry's blog, where url addresses were messed up.

Hi Barry. You can find here http://dotpups.de/puppy4/dotpups/Printi ... -3.9.8.pet that includes hpijs and allows printing and also scanning (for PSC/Photosmart HP's). It depends on http://dotpups.de/puppy4/dotpups/Printi ... nmp-15.pet. The pet has been compiled using puppy4.1.2 and the corresponding puppy package manager. The pet has been tested for usb printers for puppy's versions 4.1.1, 4.1.2, 4.2.1, 4.3beta1 and 4.3beta2. I have not checked whether works or not for printers connected to a network though.
Hope that helps.