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Sit Heel Speak · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2595 Location: downwind

I like technosaurus's idea of combining remasterpup with the installer.

I also like raffy's idea of the user being presented, right away, the option of installing, straight from the welcome page. But I don't know how to implement what's needed, directly on the webpage. Not an html guru.

Perhaps if the webpage had a click-link to start the PUI's gtkdialog screen?

Here is my idea of a gtkdialog screen which could be called from the welcome page and embodies both the remaster and installer functions:

Sit Heel Speak · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2595 Location: downwind

Here's the source which produces the above gtkdialog screen. It's just the mockup, no <action> or implementation code yet. The implementation code would be mostly copied straight over from the present PUI and remasterpup2:

technosaurus · Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 3843

oops I got distracted again and grokked a way to restore the man pages to the good ol' days

Sit Heel Speak · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2595 Location: downwind

technosaurus · Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 3843

SHS - All it is really missing is a button for gparted and maybe a help button. Possibly use radiobuttons or comboboxes vs. checkboxes just to tighten it up a bit. Looks greaty though - keep it coming. If you could get the bash part of it to work with your gui as well ... now that would be Puppy.

jur · Joined: 25 Sep 2009 Posts: 18

Here a noob's perspective:

- I find the ROX right-click immensely valuable;
- I am longing for an Iron browser so I can have identical bookmarks and everything in both Windows and Linux, and love the way Iron saves screen area by putting tabs where the title bar is normally (using Iron Portable in win) AND it blocks ads;
- same with email - I use Thunderbird Portable in Windows (because I hate to install anything at all) and would argue for same in puppy for the local folders location that can be spe'ced to the same place so all my email stuff is unified. Currently I use TBP with wine. (Actually I find that enough so maybe scratch that.)
- a polished installer would be nice but not my priority - the current one works fine.
- VLC media player - same reason, I use it in Win and like to use the same apps in both cases so I don't have to learn everything all over again, plus it is fully self-contained having all necessary codecs etc.

Sit Heel Speak · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2595 Location: downwind

Colonel Schell · Joined: 06 Jul 2009 Posts: 51 Location: Columbus, Ohio

My opinion, for whatever it may be worth, is Firefox. Not necessarily 3.5, but Firefox.

Alternatively, I would settle for a choice, as with the Dillo backend. But that's only second best, IMO. I agree with TTTuxxx, a full browser would be preferred, and while I'm OK most of the time with Seamonkey, there are just so many add-ons to Firefox that I have learned to love.

Fluxbuntu downloads with something called Kazahakase, a lightweight browser I never, ever heard of before.

You speak of a hack of Opera, but I am under the perhaps mistaken assumption that Opera is freeware that is not Open Source. Please correct me if I am wrong. I do like using Opera, but I always feel a little like I'm cheating or something.

Colonel Schell · Joined: 06 Jul 2009 Posts: 51 Location: Columbus, Ohio

And the GUI for install would help Puppy grow into new 'markets,' or 'demographics.' (i.e., Windows refugees)
Ubuntu has certainly gotten this right: it's as easy as can be to install, as long as you don't want to dual boot!

ttuuxxx · Posted: Wed 30 Sep 2009, 16:30 Post subject:

gyro · Posted: Wed 30 Sep 2009, 16:51 Post subject:

James C · Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 4741 Location: Kentucky

About browsers, Icebuntu (newly renamed to Spri Linux) uses Midori.... it doesn't appear ready for "prime time" yet.The potential is there though.

Sit Heel Speak · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2595 Location: downwind

raffy · Joined: 25 May 2005 Posts: 4636 Location: Manila

@SHS: Maybe the installer can issue an initial advice to the user to plug whatever media in which Puppy will be installed? And then soon after, the installer can present two major choices:

SIMPLE (your "Three-click"): Install to Flash Media or Frugal/Grub4DOS in WinXP. Perhaps there is no need to ask about filesystems here? That will be two-click: choose the drive and then Go!

EXPERT: This will be needed for a multi-partition setup in either hard drive or Flash Drive. All the various choices will have to be asked here.

Perhaps it will be good for the "Expert" section to be initially hidden so as not to intimidate the user?

Sit Heel Speak · Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2595 Location: downwind

@raffy: Good idea. That would save real estate for the expert screen.

One problem I see with a first screen that looks like this:

is that it inconveniences experts.

An alternative might be this. By composing the total button-labels text length to coincide with the width allotment for the descriptive text, it makes it look like the radio-buttons are centered. Does anyone know how to force gtkdialog3 to actually center radio-buttons?:

What do you think?