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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jan 2006, 15:09    Post subject:  Puppy P2P file sharing - Bittorrent tracker  

I remembered long time ago klhrevolutionist mentioned the possibility of a Puppy P2P file sharing network. I think that's a great idea Cool and it's now implemented here:
http://puppylinux.org/user/dl/

One of the great features of sharing files with bit-torrent is that the more people downloading the faster.
People only need to upload a torrent file (while the file they want to share is in their local machine) and others can start downloading it.
The page above is using a tracker program which is very light (around 55K) and no MySql is required.

GuestToo has helped me testing the site in the past few days. Thanks so much Smile

If you are new to bittorrent take a look at these pages:
http://linuxreviews.org/software/p2p/bittorrent/
http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html

And this is the #1 rule of BitTorrent:
Leave the window open after you finish downloading.
Leaving the download window open lets other people download the file from you, making it faster for everyone who wants the file to download it.

Ps. currently Barry, raffy and G2 have admin access to the site.

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Jan 2006, 00:20    Post subject:  

Well, I created and have been maintaining a related wiki page that lists P2P locations for Puppy files.

This is a good idea to have one location to find Puppy Linux torrents. But I have been in correspondence with an admin at The Linux Mirror Project (TLMP) since the release of 1.0.6 and he shared with me that it would be better to only have one .torrent file pointing to one tracker that everyone uses so everyone would benefit from each other instead of having only a couple seeds at each tracker. So, I'm willing to help out with this, since I've been doing the same kind of thing at TLMP and LinuxTracker (although someone usually adds one there before I do).

I have been thinking about mentioning that we may also be able to set our server(s) up to help seed the popular files (with BitTorrent in console).
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PostPosted: Tue 17 Jan 2006, 09:57    Post subject:  

Thanks J_Rey Very Happy

I've sent you a pm with the login information.

Btw my connection seems to be quite slow (maybe it's the limit set by my isp?), so others with fast connection please help uploading and seedling if possible (no login is required to upload).

I have had some problems when tweaking the site and need to reset the statistics, so the value under the column 'complete' should be larger than what you see now Smile

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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jan 2006, 13:13    Post subject:  

The torrent site will be closed temporarily for testing and maintaince Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue 24 Jan 2006, 01:39    Post subject: ok  

Wow sounds good. Hope you get it up & running!! With that page maybe a downloader similar to dotpup downloader can be integrated or made ? Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue 24 Jan 2006, 21:45    Post subject:  

OK I just asked the admin at TLMP in their IRC channel about coordinating between the main trackers and he said:
..."if you want to host your own, personally if i was you, i would create new torrents, add them to your tracker, and make them public...... we at tlmp is add them to our site (we much prefer to add official torrents anyway) and will help seed...... its then upto the people at linuxtracker to add your torrents from then on instead of making new ones"

I agree but people keep adding new torrents at LinuxTracker before I even notice a new release. So we should try to have Barry add new releases to our tracker and announce it on his developers news page along with the release announcement or we'll need to train the rest of us to use our official tracker and link back to it. Cool
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PostPosted: Thu 26 Jan 2006, 16:00    Post subject:  

Our tracker is back online Very Happy and can be found HERE. Thanks G2 for testing and J_Rey for the suggestions.

To upload a torrent you need to be a registered member at puppylinux.org/user. Downloading a torrent doesn't require registration.

If you have a large file that you want to share (a dotpup or usr_more.sfs that you made for example) you can create a torrent file for it, upload it to the tracker, and then post the download link of the torrent back to this forum.

Please help building the site by downloading, uploading and seeding. The more people we have, the faster the download will be.

P.S. My upload speed is still quite slow... maybe it's my network setting? I think I need to do something called 'port forwarding'... not an easy task for me thou Embarassed Again, those with a faster p2p connection please help seeding Very Happy
Btw, if you have been seeding the torrents of the old tracker installation, please download the torrents again (the old torrents won't work as the installation folder has changed). To reseed, open the .torrent file, and when your client asks you for a location, choose the location of the existing file(s) and it will resume/reseed the torrent.

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PostPosted: Thu 26 Jan 2006, 16:06    Post subject: ladi dadi  

**Edit** Your torrents are not working correctly. The Azureus torrent has error it will not even download. As for the other 2, they were downloading but have stopped.**

Could you maybe include a help file in the torrents ?
This is why I think ctorrent should come preconfigured in puppy. I really think this should be the way for puppy packages.
As the developers have been wanting to add a security feature to dotpups, what better way then having to submit your dotpup
to this site for testing & evaluation. I vote ctorrent come preconfigured in puppy for easy downloading of torrents!!!

Should this link be added to the dotpup pages ???
Add a category for those wishing to help conserve bandwidth fees ? Maybe look into blogtorrent. I think this may help further this idea.

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PostPosted: Thu 26 Jan 2006, 22:34    Post subject:  

Quote:
I vote ctorrent come preconfigured in puppy for easy downloading of torrents!


to make this work:

1) there pretty much needs to be a dedicated "Puppy" tracker ... this is what puppian has been doing, setting up a "Puppy" tracker

2) ctorrent has to work with the tracker ... i'm not sure ctorrent works with the Puppy tracker at all ... ctorrent does work with some trackers and does not work with other trackers, and it works with some clients and does not work with other clients

3) you have to setup (open) any incoming port or ports necessary for the particular torrent client and the internet connection you have ... for example, ctorrent requires one open port for incoming tcp traffic ... bitcomet can use passive connections, so it does not need to have ports open for incoming traffic, but bitcomet only runs on Windows

a big problem is that confguring ports for incoming traffic is sometimes not trivial ... if Puppy's firewall is running, it will usually have to be setup to allow incoming traffic on certain ports ... if you connect to the internet with a cable or adsl modem or a router, it will often be necessary to configure the modem/router to forward those ports ... usually, the modem/router is configured by accessing a web page using a browser like Mozilla or Firefox

if

1) there is a "Puppy" tracker setup, and
2) there is a torrent client like ctorrent that works well with the tracker and other clients, and also can use passive connections that don't require complicated confguration

then yes, there could be a simple peer2peer package system, maybe with an interface something like MU's dotpup downloader program

at the moment, i don't think ctorrent would work for this purpose ... of course, there are other p2p networks and programs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:File_sharing_networks
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PostPosted: Thu 26 Jan 2006, 22:36    Post subject:  

that was my post
http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?p=34713#34713
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jan 2006, 00:19    Post subject:  

Upload isn't available to all (or even registered users) yet....
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jan 2006, 01:00    Post subject: Re: ladi dadi  

klhrevolutionist wrote:
**Edit** Your torrents are not working correctly. The Azureus torrent has error it will not even download. As for the other 2, they were downloading but have stopped.**

My puppy has crashed because there's not enough space in /root :oops ...sorry for that...I'll reinstall Puppy (new pup001) and reseed.

[quote]Upload isn't ... registered users) yet....[/url]
The link is in the MEMBERS page (left pane). Anyway, I've added the link to the left pane too Smile
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jan 2006, 01:05    Post subject:  

it's puppian above

Quote:
Should this link be added to the dotpup pages ??
That would be great Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jan 2006, 02:21    Post subject: guest  

To the guest who replied, thanks for your input. Interesting.
Dealing with a dedicated tracker, we might look into blogtorrent I am not sure if this would be what we are looking for ? I hope to get a newer computer soon, I then could make this computer as puppy torrent server. illegal irs taking all my funds! So hopefully.

So with time everything will fall into place! We know this from experience & interest. And thanks to puppian taking interest this project can hopefully draw interest. As for ctorrent, I am not a coder but it would seem as if it would be easy to hack.

As for port forwarding, a simple readme file explaining this would be sufficient.

With time this project will be top doggin!!!

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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jan 2006, 09:51    Post subject:  

Quote:
ctorrent ... works with some clients and does not work with other clients

I've downloaded the Puppy Linux 1.0.7 ISO using Azureus successfully. But with ctorrent it doesn't work and gives this:
Code:
# ctorrent -p 6881 puppy-1.0.7-mozilla.iso.torrent
FILES INFO
<1>  puppy-1.0.7-mozilla.iso [63391744]
Total: 60 MB

Check exist: 240/242 Complete
Already/Total: 1/242
Listen on: 6881
| 0,[1/242/1],0,0 | 0,0  E:0


I've downloaded files from other trackers sites (which use the same tracker software that we use) using ctorrent with no problem.

And THIS PAGE mentioned the problem of seeding with Azureus and downloading with ctorrent...
Any idea?

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