Puppy Cloud Computing
The distinction is if the client OS runs on the client PC or on the server.
Old main frames did all the work and the clients were "dumb terminals".
If the main frame went down, that was it! Best run the OS on the client!
If the whole client OS, desktop and apps. are run by the client PC, then
this setup`s server is a file server and has far less work to do.
It really boils down to how much network/web traffic each setup uses.
OS and apps. on the client PC = no traffic, OS on client PC and server
apps. = more, and server running everything = lots more traffic!
Old main frames did all the work and the clients were "dumb terminals".
If the main frame went down, that was it! Best run the OS on the client!
If the whole client OS, desktop and apps. are run by the client PC, then
this setup`s server is a file server and has far less work to do.
It really boils down to how much network/web traffic each setup uses.
OS and apps. on the client PC = no traffic, OS on client PC and server
apps. = more, and server running everything = lots more traffic!
i see your point
i see your point by the way is there any way i could do this myself yet or no is there some puplet that could do this
You`re speaking of a Puppy core run on client PCs and web mounted apps.?
LanPuppy was "almost" that... it used Samba so only worked over local networks.
Changing it from using Samba to cifs would be all that`s needed...
Note: another way to serve apps. to clients is for the client to download them.
This isn`t quite cloud computing technically speaking, but it does the same thing.
The problem with it is it requires space for the apps., in ram, or on a HD or flash.
This would be a problem for netbooks and other systems that have little storage.
But if they had lots of ram ( min. = 1GB preferably 2GB ) they could use that.
In a very short time 2 GB ram will be standard even on the cheapest netbooks.
LanPuppy was "almost" that... it used Samba so only worked over local networks.
Changing it from using Samba to cifs would be all that`s needed...
Note: another way to serve apps. to clients is for the client to download them.
This isn`t quite cloud computing technically speaking, but it does the same thing.
The problem with it is it requires space for the apps., in ram, or on a HD or flash.
This would be a problem for netbooks and other systems that have little storage.
But if they had lots of ram ( min. = 1GB preferably 2GB ) they could use that.
In a very short time 2 GB ram will be standard even on the cheapest netbooks.
You`re assuming that there`s a server out there to serve it?
The easiest way would be the client downloading the apps. and run them local.
This creates the least traffic, and if the user likes the app. they can keep it local.
The server now doesn`t even have to run cifs, it`s just an ftp server.
jrb made ChoicePup, and I suggested that he make the SFS apps. run "non-unioned".
He has done this with about 2 dozen apps. so far. This setup is what`s needed.
The base ChoicePup boots and get apps. with "wget" from the server.
So all that needs to be distributed is the base ChoicePup OS, no apps.
The SFS files become the new install type package for ChoicePup, and a
new package manager would need to be written for this setup.
The easiest way would be the client downloading the apps. and run them local.
This creates the least traffic, and if the user likes the app. they can keep it local.
The server now doesn`t even have to run cifs, it`s just an ftp server.
jrb made ChoicePup, and I suggested that he make the SFS apps. run "non-unioned".
He has done this with about 2 dozen apps. so far. This setup is what`s needed.
The base ChoicePup boots and get apps. with "wget" from the server.
So all that needs to be distributed is the base ChoicePup OS, no apps.
The SFS files become the new install type package for ChoicePup, and a
new package manager would need to be written for this setup.
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puppyite
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puppyite
puppyite; The thought is cloud computing, which goes with nettops and Eee PCs.
A full blown PC just isn`t needed for most folks, I have one but I`m a programmer.
And even then a nettop and a NAS would do nicely.
Have a core OS that`s simple and reliable ( like Puppy ) with no-install apps.
It`s a Unix and WinBlows mentality installing apps., make the apps. no-union SFS files.
You load them, use them, and unload them, simple... With no installing bulls#!+.
This begins to bring computing to a level that even grandma can deal with!
A full blown PC just isn`t needed for most folks, I have one but I`m a programmer.
And even then a nettop and a NAS would do nicely.
Have a core OS that`s simple and reliable ( like Puppy ) with no-install apps.
It`s a Unix and WinBlows mentality installing apps., make the apps. no-union SFS files.
You load them, use them, and unload them, simple... With no installing bulls#!+.
This begins to bring computing to a level that even grandma can deal with!
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puppyite
You mean like this?: Netbooks w/160GB HDsunburnt wrote:puppyite; The thought is cloud computing, which goes with nettops and Eee PCs.
Making assumptions about what most people need is a slippery slope, I recommend you turn back.A full blown PC just isn`t needed for most folks,
Does your grandma own a netbook or prefer to access her data or apps via NAS? Personally I find installing software a trivial task, IMO grandma can do this. Installed apps are there when you need them regardless of internet connection speed or internet availability. And your data or apps are in your possession and can never be held for ransom by an outside entity.I have one but I’m a programmer. And even then a nettop and a NAS would do nicely.
Have a core OS that’s simple and reliable (like Puppy) with no-install apps.
Its a Unix and WinBlows mentality installing apps., make the apps. no-union SFS files.
You load them, use them, and unload them, simple... With no installing bulls#!+.
This begins to bring computing to a level that even grandma can deal with!
If your goal is to store your apps and / or data on your own local server then that is an entirely different thing. IMO it’s just a minor variation on the old thin (dumb) client / server idea.
I still think cloud computing is for the most part a solution in search of a problem. YMMV
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billardbobby
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Puppy cloud computing
Hi Ocpaul20
I am bobby and I know about your projects pappy.The browser will open at start up with the puppy web desktop as the home page.I would be really happy if some willing programmer would make this is a pup-let, I would be willing to test we could call it project dog park.
Thank you very much.
I am bobby and I know about your projects pappy.The browser will open at start up with the puppy web desktop as the home page.I would be really happy if some willing programmer would make this is a pup-let, I would be willing to test we could call it project dog park.
Thank you very much.