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Re: New Firedog version available - Firedog 1.2

#41 Post by otropogo »

sc0ttman wrote:Firedog 1.2 is now available, and added to the main post.
Hi scOttman,

I installed and ran Firedog 1.2 this evening, and gave it a quick try.

I liked that it managed to access my gmail account without problems (Opera 9.64 hasn't managed, though I understand there's a fix I haven't tried yet)

It also overcame some issues I've been having on Facebook.

On the downside, I don't see any option for importing bookmarks or passwords - is there one?

History is hard to find - maybe this is just a configuration issue, but a simple drop-down menu would be nice for a start.

More vexing is the lack of a built in Google Translate link. I had to set this up with major handholding in Opera, but in Seamonkey it's right there from the start.

I meant to write this with Firedog, but I didn't want to dig up my forum password.

I forgot to mention - Firedog made itself the default browser without asking, instead of giving me the option of putting a new icon on the desktop for it. Now I have to figure out how to get an icon for Seamonkey, so I don't have to crawl through the Start menu every time I want to use it.

I REALLY dislike that...
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Re: New Firedog version available - Firedog 1.2

#42 Post by sc0ttman »

otropogo wrote:I don't see any option for importing bookmarks or passwords - is there one?
Yes, go to the Bookmarks Manager, found in 'Menu->Bookmarks->Organize Bookmarks'.
Then you should find 'File->Import'.. This is what you're looking for.
otropogo wrote:History is hard to find - maybe this is just a configuration issue, but a simple drop-down menu would be nice for a start.
History automatically appears in the address bar as you type, and can also be viewed with (Ctrl+H).
You will need to change your history settings in 'Menu->Edit->Preferences'

Firedog doesn't remember history by default.

Don't forget, you can TOTALLY customise Firedog!! So that it looks how YOU want..
Simply add a history menu item to the 'Personal Menu' (top-right) for extra quick access..

The 'Personal Menu' already contains some of your history, under 'Recently Closed Tabs'..
otropogo wrote:More vexing is the lack of a built in Google Translate link.
Search the bookmarks, it's already in there, in 'Go->Tools'.
otropogo wrote:Firedog made itself the default browser. Now I have to get a desktop icon for Seamonkey
Firedog is intended to REPLACE the Seamonkey Suite so, yes, it makes itself the default browser.

Edit /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser and replace the word firefox with seamonkey.

Then you could just drag /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop onto the desktop and rename as you like.
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Re: New Firedog version available - Firedog 1.2

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n/t
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#44 Post by sinc »

i just wanted to let you know I have been using firedog for a few days now on 4.31 and am very happy with it. It has handled everything I have done so far online very well.

Heres a question thats probably already been answered in the forum but how do I remove the seamonkey suite? I would rather just have firedog and save the space.

Thanks

EDIT: Nevermind, I found it :D .
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=48431
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Re: New Firedog version available - Firedog 1.2

#45 Post by sc0ttman »

First, glad it's working alright for you, sinc.
Your url about deleting Seamonkey will be added to the main post.
Rupp wrote:In 1,1 [history] was turned off as default and I had to turn it on through preferences. Which confused me at first because I thought it was set to clear history when I closed firedog. Then I realized the address bar history option. So I adjusted it. Just wanted to tell you it is off by default in Firedog.
Yeah, sorry about that, with all the bookmarks, I don't need history.. Forgot I turned it off... I will update this in future versions...

About future versions - 1.3:

I'll enable history by default, as a start...

But there's nearly nothing left to do with Firedog, in my opinion.. Just a few settings tweaks here and there... I'm sure it's stable..

If you disagree and have some feature requests or have found any problems that need fixing, let me know..

This could could include:

Moving the flash lib, adding/moving menu items, fixing PuppyBrowser, more useful extensions, etc..

I'll release 1.3 in a couple of weeks or so, around December 09...

So get thinking (and testing?)... Or don't.. It's up to you.
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Re: New Firedog version available - Firedog 1.2

#46 Post by otropogo »

sc0ttman wrote:
Your url about deleting Seamonkey will be added to the main post.
Ok. It didn't delete Seamonkey, just took over as default, so that when you click on the browser icon on the desktop, expecting Seamonkey to run, Firedog opens instead.

In any case, when I upgraded to Puppy 4.3.1 yesterday, Seamonkey ended up as the default browser again. So that's not a problem for me anymore, though it would be nice to have a separate desktop icon for Firedog.

About future versions - 1.3:

I'll enable history by default, as a start...
Ok. In the meantime, how do I turn it on?
If you disagree and have some feature requests
1. how can I import bookmarks and/or passwords from Seamonkey?

2. how can I get Google Translate to run by means of a taskbar icon, keystroke or easily reached drop-down menu (as in Seamonkey)?

Google Translate is something I use every day, and it's a must have in any browser I use.
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Re: New Firedog version available - Firedog 1.2

#47 Post by sc0ttman »

otropogo wrote:how do I turn it (history) on?

1. how can I import bookmarks and/or passwords from Seamonkey?

2. how can I get Google Translate to run by means of a taskbar icon, keystroke or easily reached drop-down menu (as in Seamonkey)?
Sorry if this sounds lazy, but I covered all this in my last reply to you, found here

But to very quickly summarise and clarify, if needed... Firedog does indeed replace Seamonkey as the default browser.
Firedog doesn't delete Seamonkey.
Google Translate can be added nearly anywhere you want to put it!!
To import bookmarks, go to 'Menu->File->Import'.
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Re: New Firedog version available - Firedog 1.2

#48 Post by otropogo »

sc0ttman wrote:
Sorry if this sounds lazy, but I covered all this in my last reply to you, .
MY BAD. No need for you to apologize, you have every right to be peeved.

It appears I went from my google mail link to the thread, didn't scroll the whole page, and mistakenly took your reply to sinc as a response to my post.

In short, I never saw your reply to me until now.

Thanks for your patience, and please accept my apology...
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Re: New Firedog version available - Firedog 1.2

#49 Post by sc0ttman »

otropogo wrote:
sc0ttman wrote:
Sorry if this sounds lazy, but I covered all this in my last reply to you, .
MY BAD. No need for you to apologize, you have every right to be peeved.

In short, I never saw your reply to me until now.

Thanks for your patience, and please accept my apology...
Haha.. No problem.. I thought that may be the case..
Also.. Not peeved.. Just didn't wanna re-post.. It's fine! :D
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#50 Post by sprangalang »

Thank you, it works great in 4.3, on my oldie pc. I like it much better than seamonkey, and man, did you pack some goodies on there!

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Re: New Firedog version available - Firedog 1.2

#51 Post by otropogo »

sc0ttman wrote:
otropogo wrote:I don't see any option for importing bookmarks or passwords - is there one?
Yes, go to the Bookmarks Manager, found in 'Menu->Bookmarks->Organize Bookmarks'.
Then you should find 'File->Import'.. This is what you're looking for.
Nope. Can't find "file" and/or "import" at Menu/bookmarks/organize bookmarks...

otropogo wrote:More vexing is the lack of a built in Google Translate link.
Search the bookmarks, it's already in there, in 'Go->Tools'.
Not quite! The actual path is:

menu/tools/go/tools/google translate/"enter url here".

That's a long long way from Opera's single click on a "translate page" icon, or /tools/translate page in Seamonkey...

Is there a way I can get Firedog to translate a page with just one or two clicks?


I do have the browsers sorted out on the desktop now, although I wish I had a specific icon for firedog. Figuring out how to speed up page translate and how to import my bookmarks is a must though, if I'm even going to give Firedog a fair trial. Having to re-enter all my passwords manually is PIA enough.
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#52 Post by sc0ttman »

otropogo, open the bookmarks manager, then go to File->Import... It is there! I swear!
Or, just go to Menu->File->Import from the main menu.. That also works.

If you want quick and POWERFUL translation, add FoxLingo found here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2444

But I just type 'tra' in the address bar and hit down, then Enter! Fastest way for me!!

To get a unique desktop icon, drag /usr/share/application/firefox.desktop onto the desktop, right click on it, and choose 'set icon'.. Also rename it if you want!!! :)

Hope that helps..
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sc0ttman wrote:otropogo, open the bookmarks manager, then go to File->Import... It is there! I swear!
That may be. But I can't find it. I'm at Menu/Bookmarks/organize bookmarks, and the navigation field says "Bookmarks Manager

On the left sidebar, it I've got a directory tree that starts with:

Bookmark, Tool, Go, followed by 12 open Go subfolders, and another twenty or so sub-sub folders. I've looked through all the listings on the main page, and don't see "File" or "import" anywhere...
Or, just go to Menu->File->Import from the main menu.. That also works.
OK - THAT I can find. It says:
Import .... from Netscape 6,7 or Mozilla 1.x
Will that work for Seamonkey?

If you want quick and POWERFUL translation, add FoxLingo found here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2444

But I just type 'tra' in the address bar and hit down, then Enter! Fastest way for me!!
Will give FoxLingo a try later

But. I tried your shortcut just now, and it took me to the Google Translate page alright (so that IS faster than stepping through all the menus), but it didn't translate the page.

To do that, I'd have to first highlight and copy the page's URL, then do the tra thing, then paste URL into the translate window, hit the "translate" button. And...after all that, it didn't work.

To get a unique desktop icon, drag /usr/share/application/firefox.desktop onto the desktop, right click on it, and choose 'set icon'.. Also rename it if you want!!! :)
Naw. I'd already tried that. All I can find there is the default browser Icon. Which is what I'm using for Firedog already, and which apparently makes it the default browser, which I really want Seamonkey to remain.
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#54 Post by sc0ttman »

otropogo wrote:...I'm at Menu/Bookmarks/organize bookmarks...
OK, now click the text that says 'Organize Bookmarks'.. This opens the Bookmark Manager. That is what you want. Forget the sidebar on the left, this only shows your bookmarks, not manages them!

But a quick note about the Bookmarks sidebar - don't browse it, just search it, using the search box at the top!

Visiting Google Translate does not automatically translate a page. You can just click the 'translate this page' link in the Google results, or (and this will be what you want) go to http://translate.google.com/translate_buttons

Now add a bookmark (a 'button' on your Bookmarks Toolbar) that translates the current page into your chosen language.

About the icons:
sc0ttman wrote:To get a unique desktop icon, drag /usr/share/application/firefox.desktop onto the desktop, right click on it, and choose 'set icon'.. Also rename it if you want!!! :)
otropogo wrote:I'd already tried that. All I can find there is the default browser Icon. Which is what I'm using for Firedog already, and which apparently makes it the default browser, which I really want Seamonkey to remain.
Drag firefox.desktop to the desktop THEN you can change its icon on the desktop very easily by right clicking on it, going to 'File 'firefox.desktop'->Set Icon..'

Using the default icon for Firedog does not make it the default browser...

You must edit '/usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser' to change the default browser!

They are separate settings! Hope this helps.
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#55 Post by otropogo »

sc0ttman wrote:..
Visiting Google Translate does not automatically translate a page. You can just click the 'translate this page' link in the Google results
Yea, but I'm never in Google search results, I'm always on the page with the foreign language...
, or (and this will be what you want) go to http://translate.google.com/translate_buttons

Now add a bookmark (a 'button' on your Bookmarks Toolbar) that translates the current page into your chosen language.
OK. That works, thanks. Is there a way I can move the button to someplace more accessible, like the taskbar where the live chat icon sits?

Drag firefox.desktop to the desktop THEN you can change its icon on the desktop very easily by right clicking on it, going to 'File 'firefox.desktop'->Set Icon..'
The problem is that the 'firefox.desktop' icon in htat folder is the one that's supposed to represent the default browser (the earth with an arrow). I haven't found any firefox icon to use.

Using the default icon for Firedog does not make it the default browser...

You must edit '/usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser' to change the default browser!

They are separate settings! Hope this helps.
Gotcha! Just one little detail - how do I 'edit' /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser to make seamonkey the default again?
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#56 Post by otropogo »

Forgot to mention a couple of other vexing problems.

History is not keeping any sites I type in, only the ones that were already there when I downloaded it.

When I enter a URL in the navigation field, it only stays there while the browser is open. When I close and reopen it, it's not there anymore. Not much use...

And I can't figure out how to add a bookmark either. I tried it just now with a URL that won't stay in history.Edit bookmarks gave me an option to add it to the Bookmarks toolbar, which I accepted. But don't see it there. No idea where it went...
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#57 Post by sc0ttman »

Addons to be included in the next release:

- Translator (fixed) (121kb)
- Google Any to Eng (added to search bar) (2kb)
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sc0ttman wrote:Addons to be included in the next release:

- Translator (fixed) (121kb)
- Google Any to Eng (added to search bar) (2kb)
Looking forward to it.

Re: saving bookmarks. Still haven't figured out how to do it via the "add bookmark" tab, but it works with the

Code: Select all

CTL+ D
keystroke alternative. Slight hitch, it puts everything in the Google folder of the bookmarks menu, but maybe I can figure out how to rearrange the bookmarks.

History and the navigation field: typing into the navigation field has improved since I set the default web page to "blank". But no history is saved, and I haven't been able to find a way to enable history. The'res a long list of URLs that came with the installation, but nothing since.

Still haven't figured out how to make Seamonkey default browser again, or to get a distinctive icon for Firedog.
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#59 Post by omskates »

have boxpup413(firepup) and installed firedog. Missing libs/dependencies and firedog won't start from menu. Firedog doesn't start from menu (or Wbar)now and an attempt to start FirePup from menu says components not compatible with new version of FirePup "you have just installed".

Had FirePup check for these components (that's a loooong check!)......ok I'll update when its done.


Assuming puppy considered the install an "upgrade" I'm sure I just need to change execute config for menu & wbar; just need a little hint in the right direction :wink: Change "default browser file" exec to?

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#60 Post by omskates »

omskates wrote: Had FirePup check for these components (that's a loooong check!)......ok I'll update when its done.
Could not find updates. Allows me to open FirePup and release notes say FireFox 1.5.0.12.
FireDog won't open from usr/share/applications either, even when right clicked and select execute.
Wbar browser command is
/usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser
which is an execute; seen as text its
#!/bin/sh
exec firefox "$@"
Not sure what to change.

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