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vek

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 18:36    Post subject:  pup-431.sfs not found
Subject description: pup-431.sfs not found when running live Cd
 

My IBM Thinkpad :
Pentium III 933 MHZ
129,968 KB RAM
MS Windows 2000 SP3

I recently bought a Puppy Linux live CD from LinuxCd.org but when I try to run the live CD, I get this error message: "pup-431.sfs not found...dropping out to initial-ramdisk console...#.

Please help...I am a complete newbie to Linux.

Thank you.
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T_Hobbit


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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 18:43    Post subject:  

On Windows, if you access the CD, which files does you see on the CD?
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vek

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 19:01    Post subject:  

the files on the CD:
BOOT
BOOT
HELP
INITRD
ISOLINUX
ISOLINUX.CFG
LOGO.16
PUP 431.SFS
VMLINUZ
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 19:17    Post subject:  

Go here: http://www.icpug.org.uk/national/linnwin/step2-xp.htm
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Béèm


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Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win

PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 19:21    Post subject:  

vek wrote:
the files on the CD:
BOOT
BOOT
HELP
INITRD
ISOLINUX
ISOLINUX.CFG
LOGO.16
PUP 431.SFS
VMLINUZ
Unless you types it on purpose, file names should be in lower case.
Also it isn't PUP 431.SFS but pup-431.sfs (unless it's a typo as well)

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Jim1911

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 19:29    Post subject:  

Hi vek,

Welcome to puppy.

Unfortunately, it looks like LinuxCd.org sent you a defective CD unless you made some typos in your post. Files should be: boot.cat, boot.msg, help.msg, intrd.gz, isolinux.bin, isolinux.cfg, logo.16, pup-431.sfs, and vmlinuz.

All the file names should be in lower case, and pup-431.sfs is missing the dash. Although, if you used Window explorer to copy the contents into your post, it may have switched cases, but it wouldn't have dropped the "-" and left out part of the file names.

If you'd like to download a new copy, it's at http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/

Beem beat me to the post, but there is a little additional info.
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vek

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 19:45    Post subject:  

NO, these are not typos....I copied them exactly as they appeared on the CD (through Windows Explorer).

I noticed the missing dash as well.
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 19:50    Post subject:  

Then Jim1911's assumption could be correct, that you have a faulty CD. Unless you have a slow connection, like dial-up, it's very easy to download the iso and burn it. If you have a CD/DVD burner device for sure.
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 20:05    Post subject:  

What a coincidence. I just downloaded the iso 4.3 from the Puppy site, checked the md5SUM (ok) and burned a CD. When I insert it in my laptop I get this:

Loading drivers needed to access disk drives - done
Searching for Puppy files in computer disk drives...pup-430.sfs not found
Dropping out to initial ramdisk console
/bin/sh can't access tty: job control turned off
(flashing cursor)

I got it from http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/puppy-4.3/ and the pup save is not missing the dash although all the files are in upper case as seen from Windows.

I've never seen this from a live Puppy CD before (prev. versions) and I have no idea of what to do.
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 21:11    Post subject:  

@frefel
Converting linux files from lower to upper case apparently is a Windows explorer characteristic, however that would not affect the files on the CD. Although, if you use Windows explorer to copy the files to a directory (maybe for a frugal installation) on the hard drive, you must rename each file using the lower case.

Incidently, pup 431 is the latest and has repaired bugs found in 430, consider trying it.
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 21:27    Post subject:  

Thanks Jim1911

Since I was working directly from a burned CD I don't know the status of the file naming on it but I've never had a problem before with Puppy CDs. I also looked at my 4.2.1 disk and sure enuf its naming is upper case from Windows so I think you are right about Windows changing the lettering. And, by the way, that CD brings up the boot menu and boots normally on my machine (TP T22). Could it have something to do with a kernel change and my old laptop?

Interestingly also I burned a BrowserLinux CD to try out and it also came up with the "can't find pup.sfs" message. This is all wierd but I'll try the 4.3.1 although I'm not optimistic.

Addendum;
The 4.3 CD works on my destop machine fine, 4.31 doesn't work on my old laptop and the 4.21 does work on the laptop so now I'm guessing it's a kernel incompatability with my IBM T22. Is there a work around or should I just stay with the older version of Puppy?
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 22:09    Post subject:  

frefel,

You may want to try the retro version of 431 that Barry provided. Another possibility is dpup-477b which uses the earlier kernal. It's a beta version, however, I find it very fast and stable on my old Sony laptop/
Jim

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vek

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 22:12    Post subject:  

T_Hobbit,

I tried your suggestion all the way to Step 4 but I am still getting the same message: pup-431.sfs not found...dropping out to initial-ramdisk console
/bin/sh: can't access tty;job control turned off.

To all others,

I burned a new ISO image of the Puppy Linux Live CD but I am getting exactly the same message.

Please help. Thanks everybody...I will wait for more suggestions.
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 22:23    Post subject:  

vek,

Have you tried to install it or are you just booting it from the CD? If so, your file may have been misplaced.

Try booting with CD and when the boot delays to allow you to enter code, enter "puppy pfix=ram" (without quotes). Puppy will then boot from the CD and load the pup-431.sfs into ram.

Provide us details as to how this worked and if you have already tried to install it, describe what you did, your drive configuration, etc. and someone may be able to help.

Jim
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Nov 2009, 23:02    Post subject:  

Thanks, Jim1911.

I'm running from the Live CD (not ready to install yet) and I tried:
"puppy pfix=ram" (without the quotes) and got exactly the same error message as before.

I'm open to other suggestions. Thanks, everybody.
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