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exProphecy

I'm having a bit of trouble installing to a Centon Craze 8GB MP3 player I recently purchased. It is formatted to FAT32 and whenever I use the Puppy Universal installer it says there is no MBR and it installs in Superfloppy mode? I tried running grub in console and putting in root (hd1, 0). The output says something like: Error 18: Cylinders exceed maximum? I have Puppy 4.3.1 installed on another 8GB flash drive which is working perfectly. It's a Cruzer Micro and it is FAT32 as well. Any ideas?

mikeb · Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 3159

grub no like fat32... grub4dos does

you would use
bootlace.com /dev/sdb

add grldr to root

make up menu.lst to suit.

Otherwise try putting on a standard mbr....there was a hp utility that supposed to sort that.

The other point is that the player may not format like a dedicated memory stick in which case some other approach will be needed. (Some flash stick are stubborn too)

mike

exProphecy · Posted: Sat 07 Nov 2009, 19:48 Post subject:

So booting from a Puppy 4.3.1 CD, I just type in:
bootlace.com /dev/sdb

How do I add grldr to root and how do I go about making a menu.lst? sorry me nooboo Rolling Eyes

mikeb · Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 3159

Grab this
http://download.gna.org/grub4dos/grub4dos-0.4.3-2008-05-02.zip

Unzip.

You will find bootlace.com and grldr in the package
Run bootlace as suggested...you might want to move it in to /usr/bin to make the run coimmand simpler.
copy grldr into /mnt/sdb1

menu.lst (small L) is just a text file saved in /mnt/sdb1 and a typical entry would be

exProphecy · Posted: Sun 08 Nov 2009, 15:42 Post subject:

Oh wait okay so.. instead of doing that I did this:
I deleted the partition using Gparted. Tried formatting it to FAT32, giving me an error. Did it a second time, asking me if I wanted to create a partition table mdos or something so I said yes. So now it's not in Superfloppy mode! Yay but after the normal installation of Puppy, it still doesn't boot. I used mbr.bin, which is what I usually boot up with on my Cruzer Micro 8GB flash drive. Do you think I should try the other MBRs or is this a different problem?

mikeb · Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 3159

there used to be an mbrfat.bin ...not sure if you have that and not sure if it will make any difference.
Boot flag set?

But may just be one that will not work for you. I had a usb stick recently and it would not boot in spite of tying various methods

mike

exProphecy · Posted: Sun 08 Nov 2009, 16:35 Post subject:

Yea I made sure the boot flag was set. Alright I'll give that one a go. See if it works

exProphecy · Posted: Sun 08 Nov 2009, 22:49 Post subject:

I tried all of the options there nothing worked.. Any ideas? Crying or Very sad

mikeb · Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 3159

Hmmm..I think you have one that will not boot unfortunately...It does happen so no suggestions apart from the obvious one of use something else Sad

mike

exProphecy · Posted: Mon 09 Nov 2009, 14:13 Post subject:

Aw man.. well thanks for your help anyways! But I was wondering, why won't it work? What's the root of the problem? My Cruzer Micro 8GB Flash Drive works, why won't this Centon Craze 8GB Flash Drive work?

Perhaps, someone can buy it as well and try to make it work? Laughing

http://www.amazon.com/Centon-Craze-8GB-Player-Black/dp/B0023B1670/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1257790378&sr=8-2

mikeb · Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 3159

Due to being an mp3 player I suspect..I had one that was ok for storage but not bootable...perhaps that ability is used to run the player

mike

exProphecy · Posted: Tue 10 Nov 2009, 03:07 Post subject:

I had an old one that was 1GB MP3 Player which was Transcend. It worked perfectly! But after a few years, the left side of the speakers won't work anymore. Sad

So now I am on the lookout for a new one. This Centon Craze would be perfect if it worked! It's 8GB and it has playlist ability! My old one did not.. I looked @ the Coby MP305 but it has no playlist ability and has only 4GB max. I might get it though and try Puppy out on it. Anyone try it on this before? .....or am I the only one who's ever put Puppy on an MP3 player/USB flash drive?

cthisbear · Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 1286 Location: Sydney Australia

exProphecy:
Must be Boot ...and ....LBA.....
I only keep hitting ...Enter...to all the default questions.

Hope you have success.

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Look at bits and pieces of my posts.
Also try another port.

" What I did notice on the Medion was that Gparted had a
question mark on it....even though it was formatted Fat32.
And I have seen it on some other USBs as well.
Is there an agenda here?

As I was trying to get the Medion usb to boot Puppy 4.3.1
Gparted refused to let me tick
Boot ...and ....LBA.....
which are most essential.

I had to also format it in NTFS because GParted refused
to allow a Fat 32 on it.
I then closed GParted and reformatted the USB
back to Fat32 and enabled ...Boot and LBA. "

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=48350

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HP Formatter:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=15098

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http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=48495

Chris.

mikeb · Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 3159

Hmm well something in the format/geametry is not happen....this can be changed in fdisk but what to??...you had to reformat it.
What errors do you get now?
When you install syslinux/grub4dos do you get any errors.

mike

exProphecy · Posted: Tue 17 Nov 2009, 01:38 Post subject:

I formatted it to NTFS then FAT32 then proceeded to add the boot and lba check marks. I already added the boot one before but what is the lba for? Anyhow, it still did not work. If it's any help, I noticed that the mp3 player is not seen as mounted when I start up my laptop. Even though it is plugged in, Windows 7 does not detect the drive after bootup. It is only when I take it out then plug it back in that it detects it. Same happens when booting with Puppy.