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cougar
Joined: 28 Jun 2009 Posts: 6
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Posted: Wed 18 Nov 2009, 20:12 Post subject:
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Of course I like Puppy, What's not to like? However, finding answers to sometimes simple questions takes more time then I'm willing to spend, so I limp along running on only two cylinders stead of four.
I've got a little cash and would be willing to part with it for "answers". How could that be made to happen?
Cougar
P.S. - So much of the very worthwhile info on the forum is dealt with using arcane programming lingo (for someone like me). Further, while the search engine is good, often you've got to muddle through all kinds of other discussions that are sometimes hard to follow, also, for someone like me. If Puppy is to ever grow into a "wolf", it must meet "the masses" at least half way. That's why Mr. Gates has been paid his billions, because he took all this "arcane lingo" and hid it behind easily understood (to the unwashed masses) little "pictures" called icons.
In that regard, some type of little add on (pup-get etc.) that would give a well thought out (not wordy) explanation of each entity with possibly a "link" to a complete explanation might be worthwhile. Fer instance, I'm having a devil of a time figuring out something that I know will be simple. The "console" in Puppy. I can find no documentation that will tell me how to "paste" a line I have to use every log on in order to get my "anonymous" service running.
Just some thoughts from a guy who hasn't yet waded very deep into the forest. Thanks & BTW, you guys are doin a hell of a job.
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alienjeff

Joined: 08 Jul 2006 Posts: 2290 Location: Winsted, CT - USA
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Posted: Wed 18 Nov 2009, 20:18 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | The "console" in Puppy. I can find no documentation that will tell me how to "paste" a line... |
Oh come on now...
Against my better judgement, I visited Google and started typing "how to paste to", at which time Google provided five "completions." I chose "command prompt" (which is what you have in the console), and then chose the fifth Google hit:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/how-to-copy-paste-on-command-line-6501/
In the words of Ricky of Trailer Park Boys fame, "It's not rocket appliances" for goodness sake.
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cougar
Joined: 28 Jun 2009 Posts: 6
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Posted: Wed 18 Nov 2009, 20:42 Post subject:
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Thanks Alienjeff. I would've gladly paid twenty bucks for that answer: you just "copy" then use "shift and insert". So simple. I wasted hours searching for some type of documentation or something.
While I'm at it, theres a great little piece of software, no , "wonderful" piece of software called "FreeMind". Barry claims one of the add ons in the Pupget list (I forget which) will do almost the same thing. I downloaded it. It's OK but doesn't nearly measure up. In fact, the only reason I keep Windows is because I can run freemind on it.
Now, imagine the whole (complex) forum cataloged using freemind. Freemind is intended to make the "complex" manageable via a treelike mindmap. It might not obviate the seach engine, but it could take all posts of a particular narrow topic and connect them all in a flowing, logical order. Just a thought from Cougar
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alienjeff

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Posted: Wed 18 Nov 2009, 20:45 Post subject:
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Middle click on the mouse works, too.
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p310don
Joined: 19 May 2009 Posts: 596 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Wed 18 Nov 2009, 21:29 Post subject:
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if you are using the same command in the console every time, and you are saving your session on logout, you should be able to press the up arrow and it will come up with your last entered command. If you keep pressing up, it scrolls through all the previous entered commands too. That can be very useful if you've done something before, and can't exactly remember how to do it again.
Hope this helps
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p310don
Joined: 19 May 2009 Posts: 596 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Wed 18 Nov 2009, 21:32 Post subject:
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if you are using the same command in the console every time, and you are saving your session on logout, you should be able to press the up arrow and it will come up with your last entered command. If you keep pressing up, it scrolls through all the previous entered commands too. That can be very useful if you've done something before, and can't exactly remember how to do it again.
Hope this helps
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mcewanw
Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 1529 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Wed 18 Nov 2009, 21:35 Post subject:
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| cougar wrote: |
While I'm at it, theres a great little piece of software, no , "wonderful" piece of software called "FreeMind". Barry claims one of the add ons in the Pupget list (I forget which) will do almost the same thing. I downloaded it. It's OK but doesn't nearly measure up. In fact, the only reason I keep Windows is because I can run freemind on it.
Now, imagine the whole (complex) forum cataloged using freemind. Freemind is intended to make the "complex" manageable via a treelike mindmap. It might not obviate the seach engine, but it could take all posts of a particular narrow topic and connect them all in a flowing, logical order. Just a thought from Cougar |
Freemind is a java application so it runs on Puppy too:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=338668&search_id=1861383731#338668
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=183025#183025
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=357351&search_id=1861383731#357351
Freemind has already been used on the Wiki apparently:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=339320&search_id=1861383731#339320
There is a similar (some say better) Eclipse/java app called xmind which will also run on MS Windows or Puppy:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=357351&search_id=1861383731#357351
http://www.xmind.net/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMIND
EDIT: I have read that xmind is way heavier on RAM than freemind though.
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tlchost
Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 1507 Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA
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Posted: Wed 18 Nov 2009, 22:21 Post subject:
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| alienjeff wrote: | | Middle click on the mouse works, too. |
And for those that use a trackball?
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big_bass

Joined: 13 Aug 2007 Posts: 1736
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Posted: Wed 18 Nov 2009, 22:35 Post subject:
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cougar
you can google the program to find the home page of the program containing screen shots and full documentation
most full distros have everything you need already installed
and are easier to start with
other non puppy examples of what programs do below
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http://linuxappfinder.com/
one example of what a short description of what a "program" does
called apps or packages
http://pkgs.slitaz.org/stable/office.html
*those are not puppy packages
most "distros" * other operating systems *have something like this
http://slackfind.net/en/packages/search/?name=man
when in doubt you can also use others
http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#view
the point here is packages can have a simple description of what they do but what is more important is what other programs are needed
to make it all work correctly
choose but choose wisely
Joe
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mcewanw
Joined: 16 Aug 2007 Posts: 1529 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Wed 18 Nov 2009, 22:39 Post subject:
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| tlchost wrote: | | alienjeff wrote: | | Middle click on the mouse works, too. |
And for those that use a trackball? |
I think the link alienjeff provided higher up this thread answered that:
cut and paste in console with shift-insert key combination
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Pizzasgood

Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 6270 Location: Knoxville, TN, USA
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Posted: Thu 19 Nov 2009, 03:14 Post subject:
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| tlchost wrote: | | alienjeff wrote: | | Middle click on the mouse works, too. |
And for those that use a trackball? |
If you use a device with only two buttons, you can usually simulate the middle button by clicking both the left and right buttons simultaneously. If it doesn't work automatically, there should be an option to enable it in the mouse wizard under Menu->Setup, named something like "third button emulation on a two button mouse".
In the case of a trackpad, at least on my own laptop, you may be able to tap it with two fingers to perform a middle-click (and three fingers for right-click). That of course requires that you have the tap-to-click feature enabled. Some Puppies have it disabled by default.
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alienjeff

Joined: 08 Jul 2006 Posts: 2290 Location: Winsted, CT - USA
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Posted: Thu 19 Nov 2009, 12:36 Post subject:
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| tlchost wrote: | | And for those that use a trackball? |
I don't own a trackball mouse, don't plan on owning one, therefore don't really give a flying fook.
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trapster

Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 1966 Location: Maine, USA
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Posted: Thu 19 Nov 2009, 13:31 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | I don't own a trackball mouse, don't plan on owning one, therefore don't really give a flying fook. |
Well fook2 u
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tlchost
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Posted: Thu 19 Nov 2009, 13:41 Post subject:
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| alienjeff wrote: | | tlchost wrote: | | And for those that use a trackball? |
I don't own a trackball mouse, don't plan on owning one, therefore don't really give a flying fook. |
Nothing but the milk of kindness, eh? Give me your address, I have a hat I can send you.....it's a toilet paper roll.
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alienjeff

Joined: 08 Jul 2006 Posts: 2290 Location: Winsted, CT - USA
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Posted: Thu 19 Nov 2009, 14:41 Post subject:
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@tlchost
If you review this thread, I answered one of the OP's questions.
You tacked on the bit about a trackball mouse. I don't own one and don't plan on buying one.
Do your own research instead of chastising me for my response to you.
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