Puppy Linux Discussion Forum Forum Index Puppy Linux Discussion Forum
Puppy HOME page : puppylinux.com
"THE" alternative forum : puppylinux.info
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

The time now is Sat 29 Nov 2014, 03:20
All times are UTC - 4
 Forum index » Advanced Topics » Additional Software (PETs, n' stuff) » Drivers
Nvidia-185-18.36 for Puppy 4.3beta2/3
Post new topic   Reply to topic View previous topic :: View next topic
Page 1 of 1 [15 Posts]  
Author Message
MU


Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Posts: 13644
Location: Karlsruhe, Germany

PostPosted: Mon 14 Sep 2009, 16:30    Post subject:  Nvidia-185-18.36 for Puppy 4.3beta2/3  

Supported cards:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_185.18.36.html

Install, exit X (menu - shutdown - exit to prompt), and type:
xorgwizard
There, select the "Nvidia latest" driver.

This will extract it, update xorg.conf, and start the desktop again.

-----------------------------------
For advanced users:
This step also extracts the source for the kernelmodule to /usr/src, so if you have a different kernel, you could try there to run
make module
make install

Download:
http://dotpups.de/puppy4/dotpups/XServer/nvidia-185-18.36-K2.6.30.5-puppy4.3beta3.pet

You should have "antinspect" in the desktop-menu to test performance, it should display more than 30 fps.

If the Nvidia xconfig tool does not store settings permanently, try this fix:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=41625

Mark

_________________
my recommended links

Last edited by MU on Tue 15 Sep 2009, 17:14; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
Schism


Joined: 12 Dec 2008
Posts: 78

PostPosted: Mon 14 Sep 2009, 18:40    Post subject:  

First of all, Thank You.

I tested this running Puppy 4.3beta3 on:

Microprocessor 1.9 GHz AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual­Core Mobile Technology TK­57
Microprocessor Cache 512KB L2 Cache 
Memory 1024MB (2 x 512 MB) 
Memory Max Up to 3072MB DDR2 
Video Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 7000M 
Video Memory Up to 287 MB Hard Drive 120 GB (5400 rpm)
Multimedia Drive 4X DVD+­R/RW SuperMulti dual layer drive 
Display 15.4" WXGA High­Definition BrightView Widescreen (1280 x 800) 

Works GREAT! Thank You Again.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Lobster
Official Crustacean


Joined: 04 May 2005
Posts: 15117
Location: Paradox Realm

PostPosted: Tue 15 Sep 2009, 05:01    Post subject:  

OK I thought I would allow some more testers
but could not resist trying - Now I can get Secondlife running Smile

Downloaded and ran:
http://dotpups.de/puppy4/dotpups/XServer/nvidia-185-18.36-K2.6.30.5-puppy4.3beta3.pet
went tto menu / shudown / exit to prompt /
typed xorgwizard
and your program came up selected Nvidia Latest
ran antinspect - this was under utility or graphic
Yep Works!
rebooted to make sure it was permanent
antinspet had gone but Nvidia was running
- seems to have made the sound choppy and unusable - will try removing and see if that cures it . . .

Many thanks Mark Cool
Oh - I am running 4.3 Beta 3 and a Geforce 7050PV/7025 which is a graphic card on a chip built into motherboard

_________________
Puppy WIKI
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
MU


Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Posts: 13644
Location: Karlsruhe, Germany

PostPosted: Tue 15 Sep 2009, 17:11    Post subject:  

I am not certain why antinspect disappeared from the menu, but you also can run it from console:
antinspect -fps

Sound: is it always choppy, or just in games?
The 7050 chip is not that fast - enough for many games, but especially if they use high quality settings like lensflares, the sound might start to stutter. I think the computer is not fast enough then.
At least I experienced such effects with some older Ati-cards.

But in normal operation, e.g. playing music, sound should be fine.

Thanks for your reports! Smile

Mark

_________________
my recommended links
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
Lobster
Official Crustacean


Joined: 04 May 2005
Posts: 15117
Location: Paradox Realm

PostPosted: Wed 16 Sep 2009, 01:30    Post subject:  

Quote:
Sound: is it always choppy, or just in games?


Thanks Mark Smile
I was trying to get SecondLife running and ran into missing libraries.
Decided to watch the news from BBC
then youtube
The previously fine sound playback was breaking up
and I uninstalled the nvidia driver which cured the problem

I seem to remember there as some Nvidia control panel where you can change settings - maybe that is needed?

If the graphics card is slow I may upgrade
but have had it working with games
http://live.linux-gamers.net/
and it proved fine

Would an ATI card be a better option? Smile

_________________
Puppy WIKI
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
Lobster
Official Crustacean


Joined: 04 May 2005
Posts: 15117
Location: Paradox Realm

PostPosted: Thu 22 Oct 2009, 12:34    Post subject:  

strange this was working in the beta but not the final - not sure why . . .
_________________
Puppy WIKI
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
MU


Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Posts: 13644
Location: Karlsruhe, Germany

PostPosted: Thu 22 Oct 2009, 20:59    Post subject:  

please type
depmod -a
and reboot.
If still no success, please attach /var/log/Xorg.0.log

Or try these pets:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=46686

Mark

_________________
my recommended links
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
paulski

Joined: 06 Oct 2006
Posts: 127
Location: Cologne, Germany &/or Perth, Australia

PostPosted: Sun 22 Nov 2009, 17:01    Post subject: In 4.3.1 no go  

I may be in the same boat as Lobster.
Motherboard mounted Nvidia GeForce 7025, but it wont fly in the 4.3.1 puppy

Looking for a logical reason why. I unpacked Mu's pets to see where everything should go. Seems okay on his side of things - great work!

Was Xorg changed from beta to final or 3.1? Perhaps the nvidia-xconfig isn't liking Xorg now.

I also noticed newer versions of the driver in a ".run" form on the Nvidia website.

@ Mark - how did you get a hold of source stuff from Nvidia - from those packages or did you register as a developer?

@ Lobster - is yours working now?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
MU


Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Posts: 13644
Location: Karlsruhe, Germany

PostPosted: Sun 22 Nov 2009, 17:33    Post subject:  

I create the pets like this:

start Puppy with a fresh savefile.
Reboot, and add the devx_431.sfs and kernelsource sfs.

Then download and run the official nvidia installer.

In /initrd/pup_rw/ I quickly find the files, that were installed.

I package them as /usr/local/graficsdrivers/nvidia.tgz

This then is packaged to a pet, together with my modified /usr/sbin/xorgwizard.
The original xorgwizard is renamed to xorgwizard-puppy, and can be run from mine.
Mine just gives you a new menu, to install the nvidia.tgz (or ati.tgz) in addition, and delete some files, that might conflict with them (like an old /usr/lib/libGL.so).

I decided to use this "2step" installation (first install pet, then extract the nvidia.tgz from xorgwizard), so that Puppys old drivers can quickly be restored by running Puppys xorgwizard again (you just might have to delete xorg.conf first).

Mark

_________________
my recommended links
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
Lobster
Official Crustacean


Joined: 04 May 2005
Posts: 15117
Location: Paradox Realm

PostPosted: Sun 22 Nov 2009, 23:04    Post subject:  

Quote:
please type
depmod -a
and reboot.
If still no success, please attach /var/log/Xorg.0.log


Sorry Mark Embarassed
Only just seen this
enclosed (the file just needs renaming from Xorg.0.zip to Xorg.0.log)
Xorg.0.zip
Description 
zip

 Download 
Filename  Xorg.0.zip 
Filesize  50.33 KB 
Downloaded  667 Time(s) 

_________________
Puppy WIKI
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
paulski

Joined: 06 Oct 2006
Posts: 127
Location: Cologne, Germany &/or Perth, Australia

PostPosted: Tue 24 Nov 2009, 18:16    Post subject:  

@ Mark - What a brilliant idea - I'm sure going to try that next time I need to work out the mess an installer does.

I've been trying to get to the bottom of the problem and got some interesting hate mail

A first run on the modified xorgwizard, NVIDIA Latest doesn't work and left with "fatal Module nvidia not found" - Okay this sounds like a job for depmod

depmod -a

xwin

then I get

mv: Target NVIDIA is not a directory

mmmm.. what is getting moved there behind the scenes - unsucessfully?

- - perhaps I have to fully restart from the console after the depmod?

I will keep trying. Lobster's log may give me some clues too.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
MU


Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Posts: 13644
Location: Karlsruhe, Germany

PostPosted: Wed 25 Nov 2009, 02:11    Post subject:  

Quote:
mv: Target NVIDIA is not a directory


this can be ignored.

Quote:
xorgwizard, NVIDIA Latest doesn't work and left with "fatal Module nvidia not found"


this is critical.
So it is a good idea, to run depmod -a
xorgwizard

If that solves your issue, I must investigate, why depmod -a did not work in xorgwizard itself.

You also might first select "delete xorg.conf", then select the nvidia latest again.
Maybe an old entry in your conf confuses the nvidia tool, that rewrites it.
Mark

_________________
my recommended links
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
MU


Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Posts: 13644
Location: Karlsruhe, Germany

PostPosted: Wed 25 Nov 2009, 02:13    Post subject:  

Lobster, your log just shows the vesa driver.
I think you zipped it after a reboot.
But we need the log that you get immedeatly, after selecting the nvidia driver failed. So that I can see, what went wrong.

So you should type then:

cp -ax /var/log/Xorg.0.log /root/
sync


Then reboot, and attach the zipped /root/Xorg.0.log

Mark

_________________
my recommended links
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
paulski

Joined: 06 Oct 2006
Posts: 127
Location: Cologne, Germany &/or Perth, Australia

PostPosted: Wed 25 Nov 2009, 19:23    Post subject:  

Mark

Thanks for putting some time in on this.

"depmod -a" does not do the trick for me - even with a reboot straight after - that is "reboot" command outside of X - not giving up and jumping to xorg on the "nv" driver or vesa. So the config file would be as the script does it on the new boot.

I did try earlier using a separate pupsave the Nvidia installer and it gave some hate mail in the form of trying to execute the command
"depmod -aq" which the depmod in Busybox did not like at all.

If I knew what it was trying to do we might have the tip we need here.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
paulski

Joined: 06 Oct 2006
Posts: 127
Location: Cologne, Germany &/or Perth, Australia

PostPosted: Tue 15 Dec 2009, 18:53    Post subject:  

I just tried NVIDIA's "NVIDIA-Linux-x86-190.run" driver installer on a fresh
Puppy 431, ignored the errors and did a "depmod -a" after the installer ran.

It worked Very Happy

Installed the control centre pet and all the right things were showing up

Tried doing the same various ways on my favourite Frugal install
nope - something in there is messing it all up.

MU I used your pup_rw trick to put together a bloated 15mb test Pet.

Even with uninstalling everything that looked like they would interefere it didn't work.

I will try the test pet on a fresh install - if it works it may help someone
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
Page 1 of 1 [15 Posts]  
Post new topic   Reply to topic View previous topic :: View next topic
 Forum index » Advanced Topics » Additional Software (PETs, n' stuff) » Drivers
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
[ Time: 0.0876s ][ Queries: 13 (0.0063s) ][ GZIP on ]